Tim,
So far in our pre-implement evaluation the reaction ahs been positive. One
potentially very useful feature is being able to customize the view on a
person by person basis and show info in the tree that is most relevant to
their needs. I haven't played with it much but in a demo I was shown where
you can do some simple calcutations with things like costs or labor hours
(actual vs. est to see if gone over). The real downside to this
personalization would be consistency from user to user and standardization
of procedures. Could make for some nasty ISO issues. I have not checked
the security settings yet for locking down the customization screen but that
might be a good idea if possible. Restrict it, like RB, to a handful of
knowledgable "programmers" to avoid misleading info. We are also looking at
the drag & drop Operation/Work center features in quoting for building
BOMs/Routings. All in all we can tolerate it and later learn to exploit the
new capabilities.
-Todd Caughey
-----Original Message-----
From: tim.goertz@... [mailto:tim.goertz@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:19 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] 5.20.210 'tree' display in job tracker and job entry
Not sure how many have moved to 5.20.210 yet or have seen it but job entry
and job tracker have changed pretty dramatically and just wanted to get
other peoples thoughts on it. When pulling up a job, the screen now displays
the job in a BOM tree structure with some options to change the view which
is kind of nice in some ways but the information displayed in the tree
(which takes up 1/2 the screen - you can change it to make it take up less
screen space but can't save that change) is really a repeat of the
information displayed in the individual sections displayed on the other 1/2
of the screen. The biggest problem I see with it is that you can not see
everything (job header, operations, and material - included the detailed
information for each) all at once on one screen like you can prior to this
version. You have to make sure you have clicked the assembly you want to
look at first on the tree structure and then click into each section (job,
operation, material) to get any information on it. In short, everyone who
has seen it here in our test environment really dislikes it and I think it
may be confusing for shop floor people to use it. I can see where the tree
structure is helpful in BOM displays and realize some of it maybe be just
getting used to the change but we are really feeling it's an unnecessary
change for the worse in job entry and job tracker and feel the screens are
unnecessarily cluttered. I thin a nice option would be to just have a button
to click on the tree structure if you really wanted to see the job in that
view but have the default view left as it was before 5.20.210. Just wanted
to get others opinions.
Tim Goertz
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So far in our pre-implement evaluation the reaction ahs been positive. One
potentially very useful feature is being able to customize the view on a
person by person basis and show info in the tree that is most relevant to
their needs. I haven't played with it much but in a demo I was shown where
you can do some simple calcutations with things like costs or labor hours
(actual vs. est to see if gone over). The real downside to this
personalization would be consistency from user to user and standardization
of procedures. Could make for some nasty ISO issues. I have not checked
the security settings yet for locking down the customization screen but that
might be a good idea if possible. Restrict it, like RB, to a handful of
knowledgable "programmers" to avoid misleading info. We are also looking at
the drag & drop Operation/Work center features in quoting for building
BOMs/Routings. All in all we can tolerate it and later learn to exploit the
new capabilities.
-Todd Caughey
-----Original Message-----
From: tim.goertz@... [mailto:tim.goertz@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:19 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] 5.20.210 'tree' display in job tracker and job entry
Not sure how many have moved to 5.20.210 yet or have seen it but job entry
and job tracker have changed pretty dramatically and just wanted to get
other peoples thoughts on it. When pulling up a job, the screen now displays
the job in a BOM tree structure with some options to change the view which
is kind of nice in some ways but the information displayed in the tree
(which takes up 1/2 the screen - you can change it to make it take up less
screen space but can't save that change) is really a repeat of the
information displayed in the individual sections displayed on the other 1/2
of the screen. The biggest problem I see with it is that you can not see
everything (job header, operations, and material - included the detailed
information for each) all at once on one screen like you can prior to this
version. You have to make sure you have clicked the assembly you want to
look at first on the tree structure and then click into each section (job,
operation, material) to get any information on it. In short, everyone who
has seen it here in our test environment really dislikes it and I think it
may be confusing for shop floor people to use it. I can see where the tree
structure is helpful in BOM displays and realize some of it maybe be just
getting used to the change but we are really feeling it's an unnecessary
change for the worse in job entry and job tracker and feel the screens are
unnecessarily cluttered. I thin a nice option would be to just have a button
to click on the tree structure if you really wanted to see the job in that
view but have the default view left as it was before 5.20.210. Just wanted
to get others opinions.
Tim Goertz
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