[6.x] Released or engineered jobs not scheduled

Thanks, Jade, but the jobs that have NEVER been scheduled are not posing a
problem for us. The problem lies with those jobs that have been scheduled
at least once but subsequently have been un-engineered, modified and
re-engineered without being re-scheduled. My last question probably should
have read "...how do you monitor/detect which jobs need to be
RE-scheduled?".



Regards,
Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: jade.lawson@...
[mailto:jade.lawson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [6.x] Released or engineered jobs not scheduled



There may be an easier way but I usually just search released jobs by
start date. Those that haven't been scheduled appear first in the list.
Best Regards
Jade

"Lepley, Scott A." <sal@...>
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31/08/2005 01:16 AM
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RE: [Vantage] [6.x] Released or engineered jobs not scheduled

OK, let's try a different approach by asking a similar question with a
broader scope. Perhaps the answer lies within exporting or using ODBC or...

In general, for those of you NOT using global finite scheduling or APS, how
do you monitor/detect which jobs should be scheduled but aren't?

Regards,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Rudy Plummer [mailto:ito@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:07 PM
To: cpavug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled

Scott,

I probably should have done some more research. I ran out some of our
recent jobs and some them came up with a status of R which I took to be
required. I never actually looked to see if that were the case but since
they were recent jobs it was logical to me that the 'R' jobs required
scheduling. I'll look at some and see what caused an 'R'.

Rudy

From: cpavug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cpavug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lepley, Scott A.
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:32 PM
To: 'cpavug@yahoogroups.com'
Cc: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'; 'Rough Brothers'
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled

Thanks for your reply, Rudy. I saw the JobHead.SchedStatus field in the
data dictionary viewer, but since the description reads "Scheduling Status
Control (R-Required, P-Pending, A-Active, C-Complete). NOT CURRENTLY
IMPLEMENTED", I presumed just that, that it wasn't ready for prime time. Do
you use this field in reports at Rockland? If so, how? I modified a report
here to include the SchedStatus field and it showed values of 1 and 4, but
no R, P, A or C. I could not see any correlation.

Your guess is exactly right!

Regards,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Rudy Plummer [mailto:ito@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:24 AM
To: cpavug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled

Scott,

Couldn't you build a report on Job Header that looked for jobs that had
engineering checked 'yes' and Sched Status "R" for required ? I am guessing
that you are trying to find jobs that need scheduled?

This isn't the exact scenario that you are describing but the end result
seems about the same I think.

Rudy

From: cpavug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cpavug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lepley, Scott A.
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:10 AM
To: 'Rough Brothers'
Cc: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'; 'cpavug@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled

No, so let's try again...

Regards,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Rough Brothers [mailto:roughbros@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:04 AM
To: sal@...
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled

We are having a similar problem ... have you found anything out?

"Lepley, Scott A." <sal@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Can anyone offer either a Report Builder report or a Progress program that
finds all jobs that have been un-engineered (which I understand dumps the
schedule) and then re-engineered without having been re-scheduled? Our
implementation here does NOT include APS, so the APSUpdatedDate field in the
JobHead table is not useful. The only solution I can see is to use the
ChgLog and JobHead tables. Anyone have any other ideas?

Regards,
Scott Lepley
Systems Administrator
Mauell Corporation
Phone: 717-432-8686, ext. 14
Fax: 717-432-8688
Email: sal@...
Vantage version: 6.10.529





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OK, let's try a different approach by asking a similar question with a
broader scope. Perhaps the answer lies within exporting or using ODBC or...



In general, for those of you NOT using global finite scheduling or APS, how
do you monitor/detect which jobs should be scheduled but aren't?



Regards,
Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Rudy Plummer [mailto:ito@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:07 PM
To: cpavug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled



Scott,



I probably should have done some more research. I ran out some of our
recent jobs and some them came up with a status of R which I took to be
required. I never actually looked to see if that were the case but since
they were recent jobs it was logical to me that the 'R' jobs required
scheduling. I'll look at some and see what caused an 'R'.



Rudy



_____

From: cpavug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cpavug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lepley, Scott A.
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:32 PM
To: 'cpavug@yahoogroups.com'
Cc: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'; 'Rough Brothers'
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled



Thanks for your reply, Rudy. I saw the JobHead.SchedStatus field in the
data dictionary viewer, but since the description reads "Scheduling Status
Control (R-Required, P-Pending, A-Active, C-Complete). NOT CURRENTLY
IMPLEMENTED", I presumed just that, that it wasn't ready for prime time. Do
you use this field in reports at Rockland? If so, how? I modified a report
here to include the SchedStatus field and it showed values of 1 and 4, but
no R, P, A or C. I could not see any correlation.



Your guess is exactly right!



Regards,
Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Rudy Plummer [mailto:ito@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:24 AM
To: cpavug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled



Scott,



Couldn't you build a report on Job Header that looked for jobs that had
engineering checked 'yes' and Sched Status "R" for required ? I am guessing
that you are trying to find jobs that need scheduled?

This isn't the exact scenario that you are describing but the end result
seems about the same I think.



Rudy



_____

From: cpavug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cpavug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lepley, Scott A.
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:10 AM
To: 'Rough Brothers'
Cc: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'; 'cpavug@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled



No, so let's try again...



Regards,
Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Rough Brothers [mailto:roughbros@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:04 AM
To: sal@...
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled



We are having a similar problem ... have you found anything out?



"Lepley, Scott A." <sal@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Can anyone offer either a Report Builder report or a Progress program that
finds all jobs that have been un-engineered (which I understand dumps the
schedule) and then re-engineered without having been re-scheduled? Our
implementation here does NOT include APS, so the APSUpdatedDate field in the
JobHead table is not useful. The only solution I can see is to use the
ChgLog and JobHead tables. Anyone have any other ideas?

Regards,
Scott Lepley
Systems Administrator
Mauell Corporation
Phone: 717-432-8686, ext. 14
Fax: 717-432-8688
Email: sal@...
Vantage version: 6.10.529



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
There may be an easier way but I usually just search released jobs by
start date. Those that haven't been scheduled appear first in the list.
Best Regards
Jade



"Lepley, Scott A." <sal@...>
Sent by: vantage@yahoogroups.com
31/08/2005 01:16 AM
Please respond to
vantage@yahoogroups.com


To
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Subject
RE: [Vantage] [6.x] Released or engineered jobs not scheduled






OK, let's try a different approach by asking a similar question with a
broader scope. Perhaps the answer lies within exporting or using ODBC
or...



In general, for those of you NOT using global finite scheduling or APS,
how
do you monitor/detect which jobs should be scheduled but aren't?



Regards,
Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Rudy Plummer [mailto:ito@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:07 PM
To: cpavug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not
re-scheduled



Scott,



I probably should have done some more research. I ran out some of our
recent jobs and some them came up with a status of R which I took to be
required. I never actually looked to see if that were the case but since
they were recent jobs it was logical to me that the 'R' jobs required
scheduling. I'll look at some and see what caused an 'R'.



Rudy



_____

From: cpavug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cpavug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lepley, Scott A.
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:32 PM
To: 'cpavug@yahoogroups.com'
Cc: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'; 'Rough Brothers'
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not
re-scheduled



Thanks for your reply, Rudy. I saw the JobHead.SchedStatus field in the
data dictionary viewer, but since the description reads "Scheduling Status
Control (R-Required, P-Pending, A-Active, C-Complete). NOT CURRENTLY
IMPLEMENTED", I presumed just that, that it wasn't ready for prime time.
Do
you use this field in reports at Rockland? If so, how? I modified a
report
here to include the SchedStatus field and it showed values of 1 and 4, but
no R, P, A or C. I could not see any correlation.



Your guess is exactly right!



Regards,
Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Rudy Plummer [mailto:ito@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:24 AM
To: cpavug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not
re-scheduled



Scott,



Couldn't you build a report on Job Header that looked for jobs that had
engineering checked 'yes' and Sched Status "R" for required ? I am
guessing
that you are trying to find jobs that need scheduled?

This isn't the exact scenario that you are describing but the end result
seems about the same I think.



Rudy



_____

From: cpavug@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cpavug@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lepley, Scott A.
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:10 AM
To: 'Rough Brothers'
Cc: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'; 'cpavug@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [cpavug] RE: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled



No, so let's try again...



Regards,
Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Rough Brothers [mailto:roughbros@...]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:04 AM
To: sal@...
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Jobs re-engineered but not re-scheduled



We are having a similar problem ... have you found anything out?



"Lepley, Scott A." <sal@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Can anyone offer either a Report Builder report or a Progress program that
finds all jobs that have been un-engineered (which I understand dumps the
schedule) and then re-engineered without having been re-scheduled? Our
implementation here does NOT include APS, so the APSUpdatedDate field in
the
JobHead table is not useful. The only solution I can see is to use the
ChgLog and JobHead tables. Anyone have any other ideas?

Regards,
Scott Lepley
Systems Administrator
Mauell Corporation
Phone: 717-432-8686, ext. 14
Fax: 717-432-8688
Email: sal@...
Vantage version: 6.10.529



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