9.0 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading Processors

I don't think there would be much benefit to writing multi-processor
support into the Vantage client. Multi-processor (multi-threaded)
applications usually need to do several calculation intensive tasks at
the same time. They break the tasks up and create multiple threads that
get equal time with each of the CPU's. There should be nothing CPU
intensive about any of the "User" functions of Vantage (other than
loading .NET). How would you distribute the load between processors for
entering an order line or a job or a part? It doesn't make sense to do
it. I'm sure MRP would benefit but I believe that is already run on the
server side (disclaimer: just an example - we don't use MRP so I don't
know).

It is not as easy as just "turning on" support for multiple processors.
The application has to be written to take advantage of them and there
has to be a good reason to write parts of the application that way in
the first place.


Chris Gitzlaff
Major Industries


megensel wrote:
>
> I'm surprised that it has not been programed in. I have software
> that's 5+ years old that has support for multiprocessors. It makes
> more sence to me that it would just be something that has to
> be "turned on". Does anyone have direct knowledge that the client
> doesn't support Multiple processors?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "David Gartner" <dgartner@...> wrote:
> >
> > Not to hijack, but I wonder if "Epicor 9" will be developed and
> complied for
> > multiple processor support?
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of
> > Ted Kitch
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:49 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: 8.03 Client on Dual Core and
> Hyperthreading
> > Processors
> >
> >
> >
> > It has to be developed and compiled with multiple processor support
> in order
> > to utilize multiple processes (processors). What Michael said is
> 100% true.
> > Vantage/Vista runs as a single process and there is nothing that
> can be
> > reasonably done from the user end to change that. Epicor would need
> to
> > release a client that supports multiple-processors. That means you
> can have
> > as many processors or cores on a client computer, but Vantage/Vista
> is only
> > going to use one of them.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Ted Kitch
> >
> > Information Technology Manager
> >
> > Astro Machine Corporation
> >
> > www.astromachine.com
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > megensel
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:30 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
> > Processors
> >
> > I understand that it runs as a single "process", what I am asking
> is
> > how to make the program realize that there are two processors and
> to
> > utilize them both instead of just one at a time.
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Michael
> > Barry" <mbarry@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Vista/Vantage client runs within the context of a single
> > process.
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael Barry
> > > Aspacia Systems Inc
> > > 866.566.9600
> > > 312.803.0730 fax
> > > <http://www.aspacia <http://www.aspacia.com/
> <http://www.aspacia.com/>> com/>
> http://www.aspacia
> > <http://www.aspacia.com/ <http://www.aspacia.com/>> com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > megensel
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:25 AM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
> > Processors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I dont know if this question has been ask or the problem noticed
> > > before, but I have noticed that the Vista client only seems to be
> > using
> > > one processor when it runs. I assume that this would be a
> > performace
> > > problem and I wonder if anyone has run into it. I have seen other
> > > programs that do not have multiprocessor support turned on for
> > various
> > > reasons and you need to run a switch on the shortcut to activate
> it
> > but
> > > I can find no such switch for vista... So if anyone has any ideas
> I
> > > would musch appreciate your input.
> > >
> > > Mike Gensel
> > > Web Application Developer / IT
> > > michaelg@ <mailto:michaelg%40livoniatool.com>
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv? <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?>
> s=97359714/grpId=20369/grpspId=1705007183/msgId=6
> > 3286/stime=1205423345/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848640/nc3=5202323>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
I dont know if this question has been ask or the problem noticed
before, but I have noticed that the Vista client only seems to be using
one processor when it runs. I assume that this would be a performace
problem and I wonder if anyone has run into it. I have seen other
programs that do not have multiprocessor support turned on for various
reasons and you need to run a switch on the shortcut to activate it but
I can find no such switch for vista... So if anyone has any ideas I
would musch appreciate your input.

Mike Gensel
Web Application Developer / IT
michaelg@...
The Vista/Vantage client runs within the context of a single process.



Michael



Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
<http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/




From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
megensel
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading Processors




I dont know if this question has been ask or the problem noticed
before, but I have noticed that the Vista client only seems to be using
one processor when it runs. I assume that this would be a performace
problem and I wonder if anyone has run into it. I have seen other
programs that do not have multiprocessor support turned on for various
reasons and you need to run a switch on the shortcut to activate it but
I can find no such switch for vista... So if anyone has any ideas I
would musch appreciate your input.

Mike Gensel
Web Application Developer / IT
michaelg@... <mailto:michaelg%40livoniatool.com>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I understand that it runs as a single "process", what I am asking is
how to make the program realize that there are two processors and to
utilize them both instead of just one at a time.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Barry" <mbarry@...> wrote:
>
> The Vista/Vantage client runs within the context of a single
process.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> <http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> megensel
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:25 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
Processors
>
>
>
>
> I dont know if this question has been ask or the problem noticed
> before, but I have noticed that the Vista client only seems to be
using
> one processor when it runs. I assume that this would be a
performace
> problem and I wonder if anyone has run into it. I have seen other
> programs that do not have multiprocessor support turned on for
various
> reasons and you need to run a switch on the shortcut to activate it
but
> I can find no such switch for vista... So if anyone has any ideas I
> would musch appreciate your input.
>
> Mike Gensel
> Web Application Developer / IT
> michaelg@... <mailto:michaelg%40livoniatool.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
It has to be developed and compiled with multiple processor support in order
to utilize multiple processes (processors). What Michael said is 100% true.
Vantage/Vista runs as a single process and there is nothing that can be
reasonably done from the user end to change that. Epicor would need to
release a client that supports multiple-processors. That means you can have
as many processors or cores on a client computer, but Vantage/Vista is only
going to use one of them.



HTH,



Ted Kitch

Information Technology Manager

Astro Machine Corporation

www.astromachine.com



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
megensel
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
Processors



I understand that it runs as a single "process", what I am asking is
how to make the program realize that there are two processors and to
utilize them both instead of just one at a time.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Michael
Barry" <mbarry@...> wrote:
>
> The Vista/Vantage client runs within the context of a single
process.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> <http://www.aspacia.com/> http://www.aspacia.com/
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> megensel
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:25 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
Processors
>
>
>
>
> I dont know if this question has been ask or the problem noticed
> before, but I have noticed that the Vista client only seems to be
using
> one processor when it runs. I assume that this would be a
performace
> problem and I wonder if anyone has run into it. I have seen other
> programs that do not have multiprocessor support turned on for
various
> reasons and you need to run a switch on the shortcut to activate it
but
> I can find no such switch for vista... So if anyone has any ideas I
> would musch appreciate your input.
>
> Mike Gensel
> Web Application Developer / IT
> michaelg@... <mailto:michaelg%40livoniatool.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Not to hijack, but I wonder if "Epicor 9" will be developed and complied for
multiple processor support?


_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ted Kitch
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
Processors



It has to be developed and compiled with multiple processor support in order
to utilize multiple processes (processors). What Michael said is 100% true.
Vantage/Vista runs as a single process and there is nothing that can be
reasonably done from the user end to change that. Epicor would need to
release a client that supports multiple-processors. That means you can have
as many processors or cores on a client computer, but Vantage/Vista is only
going to use one of them.

HTH,

Ted Kitch

Information Technology Manager

Astro Machine Corporation

www.astromachine.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
megensel
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
Processors

I understand that it runs as a single "process", what I am asking is
how to make the program realize that there are two processors and to
utilize them both instead of just one at a time.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Michael
Barry" <mbarry@...> wrote:
>
> The Vista/Vantage client runs within the context of a single
process.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> <http://www.aspacia <http://www.aspacia.com/> com/> http://www.aspacia
<http://www.aspacia.com/> com/
>
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> megensel
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:25 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
Processors
>
>
>
>
> I dont know if this question has been ask or the problem noticed
> before, but I have noticed that the Vista client only seems to be
using
> one processor when it runs. I assume that this would be a
performace
> problem and I wonder if anyone has run into it. I have seen other
> programs that do not have multiprocessor support turned on for
various
> reasons and you need to run a switch on the shortcut to activate it
but
> I can find no such switch for vista... So if anyone has any ideas I
> would musch appreciate your input.
>
> Mike Gensel
> Web Application Developer / IT
> michaelg@... <mailto:michaelg%40livoniatool.com>


.

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I'm surprised that it has not been programed in. I have software
that's 5+ years old that has support for multiprocessors. It makes
more sence to me that it would just be something that has to
be "turned on". Does anyone have direct knowledge that the client
doesn't support Multiple processors?


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "David Gartner" <dgartner@...> wrote:
>
> Not to hijack, but I wonder if "Epicor 9" will be developed and
complied for
> multiple processor support?
>
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Ted Kitch
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:49 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: 8.03 Client on Dual Core and
Hyperthreading
> Processors
>
>
>
> It has to be developed and compiled with multiple processor support
in order
> to utilize multiple processes (processors). What Michael said is
100% true.
> Vantage/Vista runs as a single process and there is nothing that
can be
> reasonably done from the user end to change that. Epicor would need
to
> release a client that supports multiple-processors. That means you
can have
> as many processors or cores on a client computer, but Vantage/Vista
is only
> going to use one of them.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ted Kitch
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Astro Machine Corporation
>
> www.astromachine.com
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> Behalf Of
> megensel
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:30 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
> Processors
>
> I understand that it runs as a single "process", what I am asking
is
> how to make the program realize that there are two processors and
to
> utilize them both instead of just one at a time.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Michael
> Barry" <mbarry@> wrote:
> >
> > The Vista/Vantage client runs within the context of a single
> process.
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Michael Barry
> > Aspacia Systems Inc
> > 866.566.9600
> > 312.803.0730 fax
> > <http://www.aspacia <http://www.aspacia.com/> com/>
http://www.aspacia
> <http://www.aspacia.com/> com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > megensel
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:25 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] 8.03 Client on Dual Core and Hyperthreading
> Processors
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I dont know if this question has been ask or the problem noticed
> > before, but I have noticed that the Vista client only seems to be
> using
> > one processor when it runs. I assume that this would be a
> performace
> > problem and I wonder if anyone has run into it. I have seen other
> > programs that do not have multiprocessor support turned on for
> various
> > reasons and you need to run a switch on the shortcut to activate
it
> but
> > I can find no such switch for vista... So if anyone has any ideas
I
> > would musch appreciate your input.
> >
> > Mike Gensel
> > Web Application Developer / IT
> > michaelg@ <mailto:michaelg%40livoniatool.com>
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=20369/grpspId=1705007183/msgId=6
> 3286/stime=1205423345/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848640/nc3=5202323>
>
>
>
>
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>