Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

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Are you using "pull quantity" for subassemblies that you want to pull from stock instead?
What version are you on?
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From: Mike Abell <mabell@...>
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs


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Manasa, when you manually close the job there is a checkbox to backflush and we selected it but it appeared to do nothing...

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com

From: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:29 AM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

One question, exactly how are you back flushing "manually"? Do you still record the labor?

We do this and I have no problems.

M. Manasa Reddy
mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>
630.806.2000 x1515

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Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

Vantage gurus,

We are having an issue that when we create assemblies on jobs and use a "pull quantity" for the assemblies that match the required qty, and then we "manually" close the job and tell it to "backflush", we see no transactions that anything is getting backflushed. Is this a bug or are we missing something?

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com<mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com>

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Vantage gurus,

We are having an issue that when we create assemblies on jobs and use a "pull quantity" for the assemblies that match the required qty, and then we "manually" close the job and tell it to "backflush", we see no transactions that anything is getting backflushed. Is this a bug or are we missing something?

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...




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One question, exactly how are you back flushing "manually"? Do you still record the labor?

We do this and I have no problems.



M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...<mailto:manasa@...>
630.806.2000 x1515

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs



Vantage gurus,

We are having an issue that when we create assemblies on jobs and use a "pull quantity" for the assemblies that match the required qty, and then we "manually" close the job and tell it to "backflush", we see no transactions that anything is getting backflushed. Is this a bug or are we missing something?

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...<mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com>

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Our backflushing occurs after the completed quantity is entered on the
final operation I believe.



Josh Serwe

Manager of Warehouse & Logistics

920.437.6400 Ext. 330



"There's only one thing more painful than learning from experience, and
that is not learning from experience."

Dr. Laurence Peter



<http://www.wisconsinconverting.com>





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This is what we would like to go to as well - so it is all real-time. Unfortunately, not been able to make this work so far. The consultant has to look into it.

I want Epicor to backflush when the completed quantity is entered on the final operation and not when the job is closed. That would defeat the purpose of real-time.

Anyone have any tips of what to look for in the setup?

Kimberly Onstott
Cost Accounting Manager
Saint-Gobain Solar Glass, N.A.
4320 S. Cotton Lane Ste 300
Goodyear, AZ 85338
623-882-9533 x6003
Kimberly.Onstott@...<mailto:Kimberly.Onstott@...>

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Serwe
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs



Our backflushing occurs after the completed quantity is entered on the
final operation I believe.

Josh Serwe

Manager of Warehouse & Logistics

920.437.6400 Ext. 330

"There's only one thing more painful than learning from experience, and
that is not learning from experience."

Dr. Laurence Peter

<http://www.wisconsinconverting.com>

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Kimberly...setup is somewhat easy...what makes it hard is the number of parts you have and operations on your bills. AND gets complicated if you have sub contract ops....but it still works!

Basic setup...all ops are set to back flush and the last op is set to quantity only. Look at the operations on a job...there is a field called "Labor Entry" This is the where you set the "back flush" or "Quantity only" You record the quantity only op literally in labor entry screen.

Once that is finished, then you look at the job in the Job Closing screen. Make sure all materials did back flush AND ONLY THEN do you back flush and complete the job. If you have a material that did not back flush because someone forgot to mark the part as back flush, issue the material first and the go back and complete your job.

Hope this makes sense...otherwise ask anything you want. This works well for us because we do not have the man power to record ALL labor ALL the time.





M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...<mailto:manasa@...>
630.806.2000 x1515

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Onstott, Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:40 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs



This is what we would like to go to as well - so it is all real-time. Unfortunately, not been able to make this work so far. The consultant has to look into it.

I want Epicor to backflush when the completed quantity is entered on the final operation and not when the job is closed. That would defeat the purpose of real-time.

Anyone have any tips of what to look for in the setup?

Kimberly Onstott
Cost Accounting Manager
Saint-Gobain Solar Glass, N.A.
4320 S. Cotton Lane Ste 300
Goodyear, AZ 85338
623-882-9533 x6003
Kimberly.Onstott@...<mailto:Kimberly.Onstott%40saint-gobain.com><mailto:Kimberly.Onstott@...<mailto:Kimberly.Onstott%40saint-gobain.com>>

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Joshua Serwe
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

Our backflushing occurs after the completed quantity is entered on the
final operation I believe.

Josh Serwe

Manager of Warehouse & Logistics

920.437.6400 Ext. 330

"There's only one thing more painful than learning from experience, and
that is not learning from experience."

Dr. Laurence Peter

<http://www.wisconsinconverting.com>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Manasa, when you manually close the job there is a checkbox to backflush and we selected it but it appeared to do nothing...

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...


From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs



One question, exactly how are you back flushing "manually"? Do you still record the labor?

We do this and I have no problems.

M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>
630.806.2000 x1515

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

Vantage gurus,

We are having an issue that when we create assemblies on jobs and use a "pull quantity" for the assemblies that match the required qty, and then we "manually" close the job and tell it to "backflush", we see no transactions that anything is getting backflushed. Is this a bug or are we missing something?

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...<mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com>

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The Backflush labor process has to be running. You can start manually, but will want it to be in your startup group, so it starts when the appservers do.

you will see the results in job tracker.

Greg

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs



Manasa, when you manually close the job there is a checkbox to backflush and we selected it but it appeared to do nothing...

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...<mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

One question, exactly how are you back flushing "manually"? Do you still record the labor?

We do this and I have no problems.

M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>
630.806.2000 x1515

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

Vantage gurus,

We are having an issue that when we create assemblies on jobs and use a "pull quantity" for the assemblies that match the required qty, and then we "manually" close the job and tell it to "backflush", we see no transactions that anything is getting backflushed. Is this a bug or are we missing something?

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...<mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com>

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Where did you check it as backflush? If it is checked on the part plant
prior to the job material being added it should default on the material.
Do you have a backflush bin set up at the resource level?



Josh Serwe

Manager of Warehouse & Logistics

920.437.6400 Ext. 330



"There's only one thing more painful than learning from experience, and
that is not learning from experience."

Dr. Laurence Peter



<http://www.wisconsinconverting.com>





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Yep, Mike, that has to run as well.

The check box does nothing unless you have all of the setup I am talking about.

Parts have to be checked as back flush. This is on the plant tab of each part. And make sure you are not using this material on job that do NOT back flush.

Then you have to have your bills set up the way I explained it to Kimberly.

Regardless of the process running you still have to record labor.

Then this box will work.

Yes it took us 6 months of utter crap before I found the right resource at Epicor to give us this explanation!



M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...<mailto:manasa@...>
630.806.2000 x1515

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Payne
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs



The Backflush labor process has to be running. You can start manually, but will want it to be in your startup group, so it starts when the appservers do.

you will see the results in job tracker.

Greg

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

Manasa, when you manually close the job there is a checkbox to backflush and we selected it but it appeared to do nothing...

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...<mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Manasa Reddy
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

One question, exactly how are you back flushing "manually"? Do you still record the labor?

We do this and I have no problems.

M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa@...<mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com><mailto:manasa%40weldcoa.com>>
630.806.2000 x1515

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Subject: [Vantage] Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

Vantage gurus,

We are having an issue that when we create assemblies on jobs and use a "pull quantity" for the assemblies that match the required qty, and then we "manually" close the job and tell it to "backflush", we see no transactions that anything is getting backflushed. Is this a bug or are we missing something?

Mike Abell
Systems Analyst / Network Administrator
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.1853 ext 302
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...<mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com><mailto:MAbell%40flexial.com>

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Kimberly, set your operations labor reporting as backflush in your MOM. For your last operations, set it to quantity only and/or time and quantity and check it as "final operation" Make sure your "backflush labor process" is set to run on a continuous basis. When you report on the last operation, the backflush labor process runs and looks for any previous operations that are marked as backflush and will automatically close those operations



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From: "Onstott, Kimberly" <kimberly.onstott@...>
To: "vantage@yahoogroups.com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:39 PM
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

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This is what we would like to go to as well - so it is all real-time. Unfortunately, not been able to make this work so far. The consultant has to look into it.

I want Epicor to backflush when the completed quantity is entered on the final operation and not when the job is closed. That would defeat the purpose of real-time.

Anyone have any tips of what to look for in the setup?

Kimberly Onstott
Cost Accounting Manager
Saint-Gobain Solar Glass, N.A.
4320 S. Cotton Lane Ste 300
Goodyear, AZ 85338
623-882-9533 x6003
mailto:Kimberly.Onstott%40saint-gobain.com<mailto:mailto:Kimberly.Onstott%40saint-gobain.com>

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From: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Serwe
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:33 AM
To: mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: Backflushing when using "pulled" qty on jobs

Our backflushing occurs after the completed quantity is entered on the
final operation I believe.

Josh Serwe

Manager of Warehouse & Logistics

920.437.6400 Ext. 330

"There's only one thing more painful than learning from experience, and
that is not learning from experience."

Dr. Laurence Peter

<http://www.wisconsinconverting.com>

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