Backup Strategy

We are backing up the database with progress backup utility 5 times a day.
In order for ProBackup to work the database should be running. The tape is
backing up the .1 file right after the noon backup of ProBackup and the
entire hard drive contents at midnight. It is not a good idea to backup the
live database with a tape backup.
We already had a problem with our database where I had to discard it and
restore it with help of the previous night's tape backup of .1 file and
afterwards using the ProRest utility. This way we lost only the last 30 min.
of the work day. We had to reenter a couple of SO and a few Packing Slips.
If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager
All American Products Co.
1135 Aviation Place
San Fernando, CA 91340
USA
Tel.: 818-361-0059 Ext.: 246
Fax 818-898-2236
E-mail: miket@...
Web: www.allamericanproducts.com

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From: "meco_inc_paris" <admin@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:56 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Backup Strategy


> After loosing our both our mirrored hard drives on our server, I am
> starting to look at backup strategies and would like to see what
> everyone is doing out there
> Don't panic I am making daily backups!
>
> We are not "live" at this point as far as using Vantage for every day
> business operations. We are entering data on a daily basis in the
> live database
>
> I have the Progress database utility (That backs up our files to a
> epic51.1 file running about 4 times a day,It is writing the
> information to a totally different hard drive in our server It is
> overwriting the previous backup. Then our tape backup comes in at
> night and backs up the .1 file. After about 3 discussions with
> Epicor (And loosing our forms directory) I learned that the progress
> backup does NOT backup any user forms, such as custom made Report
> Builder forms or Crystal reports.
> So my backup schedule now backs up the .1 files and the user forms
> directory and picture directory.
>
> I have gotten conflicting reports from Epicor about backing up the
> live database. I know that you have to stop the database before you
> back it up (And I have done this twice) Everyone at Epicor says the
> best strategy is to run the progress backup on the live database
> several times a day then come along with a tape and pick up the
> backup data files, any user forms., If you loose a drive, the best
> senerio is to do a re-install from CD's then restore your data (AKA
> the .1 files) and do a progress restore
>
> We are going live hopefully by July 1st (Its been put off for over a
> year) and we will be running 2 shifts and maybe even a third at times
> With Data collection units on the shop floor
> With that said, I want to create the best senario for backups that I
> can
>
> Wanted to see what everyone's strategy was and success stories more
> than anything!
>
> Thanks
>
> James Piper
> Systems Administrator
> Meco, Inc
> Paris, IL 61944
>
>
>
>
>
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After loosing our both our mirrored hard drives on our server, I am
starting to look at backup strategies and would like to see what
everyone is doing out there
Don't panic I am making daily backups!

We are not "live" at this point as far as using Vantage for every day
business operations. We are entering data on a daily basis in the
live database

I have the Progress database utility (That backs up our files to a
epic51.1 file running about 4 times a day,It is writing the
information to a totally different hard drive in our server It is
overwriting the previous backup. Then our tape backup comes in at
night and backs up the .1 file. After about 3 discussions with
Epicor (And loosing our forms directory) I learned that the progress
backup does NOT backup any user forms, such as custom made Report
Builder forms or Crystal reports.
So my backup schedule now backs up the .1 files and the user forms
directory and picture directory.

I have gotten conflicting reports from Epicor about backing up the
live database. I know that you have to stop the database before you
back it up (And I have done this twice) Everyone at Epicor says the
best strategy is to run the progress backup on the live database
several times a day then come along with a tape and pick up the
backup data files, any user forms., If you loose a drive, the best
senerio is to do a re-install from CD's then restore your data (AKA
the .1 files) and do a progress restore

We are going live hopefully by July 1st (Its been put off for over a
year) and we will be running 2 shifts and maybe even a third at times
With Data collection units on the shop floor
With that said, I want to create the best senario for backups that I
can

Wanted to see what everyone's strategy was and success stories more
than anything!

Thanks

James Piper
Systems Administrator
Meco, Inc
Paris, IL 61944
We also use the live db backup throughout the day. Then at night the whole server gets backed up. During the nightly backup I exclude only the DB directory under vantage, that way it backs up all of our forms and pictures.

Wendy Bowen (Pursche)
Network Administrator
Schmald Tool & Die, Inc.
Burton, Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: meco_inc_paris
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:56 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Backup Strategy


After loosing our both our mirrored hard drives on our server, I am
starting to look at backup strategies and would like to see what
everyone is doing out there
Don't panic I am making daily backups!

We are not "live" at this point as far as using Vantage for every day
business operations. We are entering data on a daily basis in the
live database

I have the Progress database utility (That backs up our files to a
epic51.1 file running about 4 times a day,It is writing the
information to a totally different hard drive in our server It is
overwriting the previous backup. Then our tape backup comes in at
night and backs up the .1 file. After about 3 discussions with
Epicor (And loosing our forms directory) I learned that the progress
backup does NOT backup any user forms, such as custom made Report
Builder forms or Crystal reports.
So my backup schedule now backs up the .1 files and the user forms
directory and picture directory.

I have gotten conflicting reports from Epicor about backing up the
live database. I know that you have to stop the database before you
back it up (And I have done this twice) Everyone at Epicor says the
best strategy is to run the progress backup on the live database
several times a day then come along with a tape and pick up the
backup data files, any user forms., If you loose a drive, the best
senerio is to do a re-install from CD's then restore your data (AKA
the .1 files) and do a progress restore

We are going live hopefully by July 1st (Its been put off for over a
year) and we will be running 2 shifts and maybe even a third at times
With Data collection units on the shop floor
With that said, I want to create the best senario for backups that I
can

Wanted to see what everyone's strategy was and success stories more
than anything!

Thanks

James Piper
Systems Administrator
Meco, Inc
Paris, IL 61944




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