Bartender Software with Vantage

[system]

I am in the process of testing Bartender with Vantage. I still
cannot figure out where on the Vantage menu or where in MES to use
any of the 6 Epicor-provided Bartender files.

Is anyone using those files? Can you give me the Vantage menu path
to try them?

I see them in Data Definitions and I see them in Report Styles, but I
cannot find any Vantage 8.03.404 menu option which uses them.

GenInv
GenJob
GenQA
GenRcpt
GenShip
GenSO

Thanks.

Lynn

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6 Gen*
> Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
>
> I want to begin using Bartender to create product and material
> labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
>
> The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity and MES-
> ReceiptEntry.
>
> We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
> containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in process. Is
> there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand
without
> having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?
>
> We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional modules
> are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on 1/1. I
> need to have some sort of container labeling method in place by
12/2.
>
> Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find places to
use
> and test Bartender labels?
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> wrote:
> >
> > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions
> Group,
> > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> >
> > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format.
Crystal
> > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's,
too.
> >
> > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage.
Everyone
> here
> > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
Definitions
> used
> > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv, GenJob,
> GenQA,
> > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK with
> > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> >
> > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the
> average
> > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> >
> > Support is horrible and very limited.
> >
> > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting
for
> this.
> > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget airfare,
> hotel,
> > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own and
it
> > could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if not
> more.
> >
> > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really
isn't
> > bad.
> >
> > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible, but
> > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> >
> > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
> > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is very
> clunky
> > and limited as far as customizing.
> >
> > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using
> tethered
> > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld UI.
> >
> > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
> > Fulfillment Workbench?
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > Vic
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Charles Carden
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> >
> >
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand
held
> > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
> > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
> > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it
> is a
> > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could
> probably
> > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,
> however, I
> > am really interested in the level of support I will receive in
> getting
> > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender
> software
> > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get
it
> from
> > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
> >
> > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Charles Carden
> > IT Manager
> > Manitex, Inc.
> > +1 (512) 942-3086
> >
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[system]

We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand held devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it is a real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could probably purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor, however, I am really interested in the level of support I will receive in getting everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender software from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get it from them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?

Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
+1 (512) 942-3086


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[system]

As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions Group,
Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.

You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format. Crystal
works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's, too.

BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage. Everyone here
with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data Definitions used
for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv, GenJob, GenQA,
GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK with
Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.

BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the average
IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.

Support is horrible and very limited.

Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting for this.
So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget airfare, hotel,
car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own and it
could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if not more.

You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really isn't
bad.

Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible, but
Zebra's are good and reliable.

Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is very clunky
and limited as far as customizing.

Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using tethered
Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld UI.

Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
Fulfillment Workbench?

Good luck.


Vic



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Carden
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage



We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand held
devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it is a
real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could probably
purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor, however, I
am really interested in the level of support I will receive in getting
everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender software
from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get it from
them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?

Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.

Charles Carden
IT Manager
Manitex, Inc.
+1 (512) 942-3086

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[system]

As related before...we bought BarTender thinking it would neatly integrate
to Vantage (on SQL)......not so.

Every label needs a special setup and of course, it's nothing easy to get
your head around. Dan Pringle is the Epicor Consultant handling that part
of the business.

After we bought BarTender and saw how difficult it was to integrate to
Vantage we abandoned that strategy and simply use it as if it were any
other web deployed product.

Also, BarTender's claims about ODBC connection to the Db are very
overblown...not all that easy: we abandoned that strategy also.

We were not happy with BarTender's pricing policy...you buy printer-seats.

In retrospect we should have just gone with a cheap WYSIWYG label program
with an unlimited liscence.

Just an FYI, We also bought AMM to get the handheld capability...total
waste of money on the handhelds. You really don't get a lot of capability.

We invested in a DELL tablet PC and get far better use out of that...our
materials manager carries it always and works wirelessly at our 2
plants. The non-touch stylus was tricky and we have yet to put the
pen-barcode reader onto it but the technology has worked out far better
than the limited functionality of the handhelds.

Bob Carlson
IT Project manager
Flanagan Industries
860-430-3461

At 04:01 PM 8/20/2008, Charles Carden wrote:

>We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand held
>devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
>barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
>Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it is a
>real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could probably
>purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor, however, I am
>really interested in the level of support I will receive in getting
>everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender software
>from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get it from
>them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
>
>Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Charles Carden
>IT Manager
>Manitex, Inc.
>+1 (512) 942-3086
>
>________________________________
>DISCLAIMER:
>This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
>proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to
>which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended
>recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified
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>prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the
>sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
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[system]

Victor raises another caution about the handhelds.....they require a
Terminal Sever Session. We were already up against the ceiling on our TS
licences and we had a choice to cut some other application sessions or not
do handhelds. The additional costs of the licences was not worth it.

Agreed on the Zebra Printer...Also, Zebra Pro bar code software is the way
we should have gone instead of BarTender.

.At 04:19 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote:

>As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions Group,
>Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
>
>You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format. Crystal
>works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's, too.
>
>BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage. Everyone here
>with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data Definitions used
>for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv, GenJob, GenQA,
>GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK with
>Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
>
>BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the average
>IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
>
>Support is horrible and very limited.
>
>Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting for this.
>So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget airfare, hotel,
>car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own and it
>could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if not more.
>
>You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really isn't
>bad.
>
>Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible, but
>Zebra's are good and reliable.
>
>Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
>scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is very clunky
>and limited as far as customizing.
>
>Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using tethered
>Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld UI.
>
>Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
>Fulfillment Workbench?
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>Vic
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>Of Charles Carden
>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
>To: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
>
>We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand held
>devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
>barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
>Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it is a
>real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could probably
>purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor, however, I
>am really interested in the level of support I will receive in getting
>everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender software
>from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get it from
>them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
>
>Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Charles Carden
>IT Manager
>Manitex, Inc.
>+1 (512) 942-3086
>
>________________________________
>DISCLAIMER:
>This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
>proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to
>which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended
>recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified
>that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
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>sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
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[system]

As a counter to the handhelds, we love our handhelds here.

The customization isn't that big of a problem, we've customized a half
dozen screens, the same as any other customizations in the system. The
one limitation I haven't found away around is we can't change the main
menu structure.

Otherwise our users love them, IT loves them, they work very well. We
are using Symbol's.

Ken

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Carlson
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:05 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage



Victor raises another caution about the handhelds.....they require a
Terminal Sever Session. We were already up against the ceiling on our TS

licences and we had a choice to cut some other application sessions or
not
do handhelds. The additional costs of the licences was not worth it.

Agreed on the Zebra Printer...Also, Zebra Pro bar code software is the
way
we should have gone instead of BarTender.

.At 04:19 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote:

>As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions Group,
>Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
>
>You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format. Crystal
>works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's, too.
>
>BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage. Everyone here
>with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data Definitions used
>for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv, GenJob, GenQA,
>GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK with
>Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
>
>BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the average
>IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
>
>Support is horrible and very limited.
>
>Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting for

this.

>So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget airfare,

hotel,

>car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own and it
>could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if not more.
>
>You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really isn't
>bad.
>
>Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible, but
>Zebra's are good and reliable.
>
>Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
>scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is very clunky
>and limited as far as customizing.
>
>Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using tethered
>Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld UI.
>
>Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
>Fulfillment Workbench?
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>Vic
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>

>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

>Of Charles Carden
>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
>To: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>

>Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
>
>We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand held
>devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
>barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
>Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it is a
>real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could probably
>purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor, however, I
>am really interested in the level of support I will receive in getting
>everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender software
>from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get it

from

>them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
>
>Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Charles Carden
>IT Manager
>Manitex, Inc.
>+1 (512) 942-3086
>
>________________________________
>DISCLAIMER:
>This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
>proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity

to

>which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended
>recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified
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[system]

The main menu is a little limiting for customization



As a note you can change the name of the menu items by modifying the xml
in the res folder of the client.

You can customize the screens to do what ever you like, but sometimes
you have to

Set the forms location else customized forms open in the wrong position
and

On the handheld you cannot see them.



Regarding bartender, its integration into Vantage / Vista is ok,

You can always via BPM or BAM create the .bt files

Consisting of the data and commands to control

Bartender commander and this is much more flexible than

utilizing the auto print framework which doesn't support all scenarios.





Regards,

Stephen



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ken Williams
Sent: 22 August 2008 01:51
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage



As a counter to the handhelds, we love our handhelds here.

The customization isn't that big of a problem, we've customized a half
dozen screens, the same as any other customizations in the system. The
one limitation I haven't found away around is we can't change the main
menu structure.

Otherwise our users love them, IT loves them, they work very well. We
are using Symbol's.

Ken

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Robert Carlson
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:05 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage

Victor raises another caution about the handhelds.....they require a
Terminal Sever Session. We were already up against the ceiling on our TS

licences and we had a choice to cut some other application sessions or
not
do handhelds. The additional costs of the licences was not worth it.

Agreed on the Zebra Printer...Also, Zebra Pro bar code software is the
way
we should have gone instead of BarTender.

.At 04:19 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote:

>As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions Group,
>Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
>
>You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format. Crystal
>works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's, too.
>
>BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage. Everyone here
>with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data Definitions used
>for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv, GenJob, GenQA,
>GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK with
>Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
>
>BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the average
>IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
>
>Support is horrible and very limited.
>
>Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting for

this.

>So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget airfare,

hotel,

>car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own and it
>could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if not more.
>
>You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really isn't
>bad.
>
>Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible, but
>Zebra's are good and reliable.
>
>Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
>scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is very clunky
>and limited as far as customizing.
>
>Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using tethered
>Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld UI.
>
>Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
>Fulfillment Workbench?
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>Vic
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>

>[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf

>Of Charles Carden
>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
>To: <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>vantage@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>

>Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
>
>We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand held
>devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
>barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
>Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it is a
>real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could probably
>purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor, however, I
>am really interested in the level of support I will receive in getting
>everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender software
>from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get it

from

>them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
>
>Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Charles Carden
>IT Manager
>Manitex, Inc.
>+1 (512) 942-3086
>

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[system]

Hello:

I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6 Gen*
Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.

I want to begin using Bartender to create product and material
labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.

The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity and MES-
ReceiptEntry.

We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in process. Is
there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand without
having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?

We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional modules
are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on 1/1. I
need to have some sort of container labeling method in place by 12/2.

Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find places to use
and test Bartender labels?

Lynn



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...>
wrote:

>
> As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions

Group,

> Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
>
> You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format. Crystal
> works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's, too.
>
> BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage. Everyone

here

> with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data Definitions

used

> for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv, GenJob,

GenQA,

> GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK with
> Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
>
> BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the

average

> IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
>
> Support is horrible and very limited.
>
> Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting for

this.

> So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget airfare,

hotel,

> car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own and it
> could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if not

more.

>
> You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really isn't
> bad.
>
> Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible, but
> Zebra's are good and reliable.
>
> Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
> scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is very

clunky

> and limited as far as customizing.
>
> Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using

tethered

> Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld UI.
>
> Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
> Fulfillment Workbench?
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Vic
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of Charles Carden
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
>
>
>
> We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand held
> devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
> barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
> Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that it

is a

> real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could

probably

> purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,

however, I

> am really interested in the level of support I will receive in

getting

> everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender

software

> from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get it

from

> them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
>
> Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Charles Carden
> IT Manager
> Manitex, Inc.
> +1 (512) 942-3086
>
> ________________________________
> DISCLAIMER:
> This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or
> proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or

entity to

> which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the

intended

> recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby

notified

> that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
> prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please

notify the

> sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail

immediately.

>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[system]

Print them from a button using VB. Here is an example, I actualy
pass the lotnumber("TagNumber") as a parameter into it to print a
specific label. If you use the help in will explain the inputs.
You just need to do process.start() and put in the parameters

Private Sub btnOk_Click(ByVal Sender As Object, ByVal Args As
System.EventArgs) Handles btnOk.Click
Dim Printer As String = UDTagsForm.Session.UserID
Dim UDTags As EpiDataView = Ctype(oTrans.EPiDataViews
("UDTags"),EpiDataView)
Dim TagNumber As String = UDTags.dataView(UDTags.Row)("Key1")
Dim strPath As String = "C:\Progra~1\Seagull\BarTender\8.0
\bartend.exe"
Dim strParam As String = "/F=C:\Tags.btw /PRN= /P /X /?
TagNumber="&TagNumber
Dim strParam2 As String = strParam.Insert(20,Printer)
Process.Start(strPath, strParam2)
End Sub

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6 Gen*
> Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
>
> I want to begin using Bartender to create product and material
> labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
>
> The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity and MES-
> ReceiptEntry.
>
> We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
> containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in process. Is
> there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand
without
> having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?
>
> We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional modules
> are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on 1/1.
I
> need to have some sort of container labeling method in place by
12/2.
>
> Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find places to
use
> and test Bartender labels?
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> wrote:
> >
> > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions
> Group,
> > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> >
> > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format.
Crystal
> > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's,
too.
> >
> > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage.
Everyone
> here
> > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
Definitions
> used
> > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv,
GenJob,
> GenQA,
> > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK with
> > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> >
> > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the
> average
> > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> >
> > Support is horrible and very limited.
> >
> > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting
for
> this.
> > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget
airfare,
> hotel,
> > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own
and it
> > could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if
not
> more.
> >
> > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really
isn't
> > bad.
> >
> > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible, but
> > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> >
> > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
> > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is very
> clunky
> > and limited as far as customizing.
> >
> > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using
> tethered
> > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld
UI.
> >
> > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
> > Fulfillment Workbench?
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > Vic
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
On
> Behalf
> > Of Charles Carden
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> >
> >
> >
> > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand
held
> > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
> > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to the
> > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that
it
> is a
> > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could
> probably
> > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,
> however, I
> > am really interested in the level of support I will receive in
> getting
> > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender
> software
> > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I get
it
> from
> > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
> >
> > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Charles Carden
> > IT Manager
> > Manitex, Inc.
> > +1 (512) 942-3086
> >
> > ________________________________
> > DISCLAIMER:
> > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential
and/or
> > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or
> entity to
> > which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the
> intended
> > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby
> notified
> > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is
> > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> notify the
> > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> immediately.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[system]

Dear Michael:

Thanks for your response. I think that I understand and I am trying
your example. I chose a blank button in my customized MES, removed
the EpiBinding, labeled it 'Print Tags', then I pasted your code
into the script editor.

Is this correct so far?

Would you be willing to send me a copy of your Tags.btw file so that
I can test the customization?

My email address is lynn.khalife@...

I only installed the Trial Bartender 2 days ago and I am still trying
to figure out how to get it to do what I need.

Thanks.

Lynn Khalife




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:

>
>
> Print them from a button using VB. Here is an example, I actualy
> pass the lotnumber("TagNumber") as a parameter into it to print a
> specific label. If you use the help in will explain the inputs.
> You just need to do process.start() and put in the parameters
>
> Private Sub btnOk_Click(ByVal Sender As Object, ByVal Args As
> System.EventArgs) Handles btnOk.Click
> Dim Printer As String = UDTagsForm.Session.UserID
> Dim UDTags As EpiDataView = Ctype(oTrans.EPiDataViews
> ("UDTags"),EpiDataView)
> Dim TagNumber As String = UDTags.dataView(UDTags.Row)("Key1")
> Dim strPath As String = "C:\Progra~1\Seagull\BarTender\8.0
> \bartend.exe"
> Dim strParam As String = "/F=C:\Tags.btw /PRN= /P /X /?
> TagNumber="&TagNumber
> Dim strParam2 As String = strParam.Insert(20,Printer)
> Process.Start(strPath, strParam2)
> End Sub
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6 Gen*
> > Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
> >
> > I want to begin using Bartender to create product and material
> > labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
> >
> > The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity and

MES-

> > ReceiptEntry.
> >
> > We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
> > containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in process. Is
> > there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand
> without
> > having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?
> >
> > We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional

modules

> > are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on 1/1.
> I
> > need to have some sort of container labeling method in place by
> 12/2.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find places to
> use
> > and test Bartender labels?
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions
> > Group,
> > > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> > >
> > > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format.
> Crystal
> > > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's,
> too.
> > >
> > > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage.
> Everyone
> > here
> > > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
> Definitions
> > used
> > > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv,
> GenJob,
> > GenQA,
> > > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK

with

> > > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> > >
> > > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the
> > average
> > > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> > >
> > > Support is horrible and very limited.
> > >
> > > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting
> for
> > this.
> > > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget
> airfare,
> > hotel,
> > > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own
> and it
> > > could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if
> not
> > more.
> > >
> > > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really
> isn't
> > > bad.
> > >
> > > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible,

but

> > > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> > >
> > > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
> > > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is

very

> > clunky
> > > and limited as far as customizing.
> > >
> > > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using
> > tethered
> > > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld
> UI.
> > >
> > > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
> > > Fulfillment Workbench?
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > >
> > > Vic
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Charles Carden
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand
> held
> > > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
> > > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to

the

> > > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that
> it
> > is a
> > > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could
> > probably
> > > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,
> > however, I
> > > am really interested in the level of support I will receive in
> > getting
> > > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender
> > software
> > > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I

get

> it
> > from
> > > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
> > >
> > > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Charles Carden
> > > IT Manager
> > > Manitex, Inc.
> > > +1 (512) 942-3086
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential
> and/or
> > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or
> > entity to
> > > which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the
> > intended
> > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby
> > notified
> > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail

is

> > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> > notify the
> > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> > immediately.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

[system]

Lynn,

Are you using Code39 or Code128?

If you are using Code39 (standard on Vantage Travelers, etc) then scrap
BarTender and use Crystal Reports.

Bartender is a convoluted PITA and you are limited to those 6 or so
label types and system triggers.

I used to install Bartender for Epicor customers... So much work and
linkage to get it installed when the same thing can be accomplished with
Crystal Reports pending you are using Code39.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:05 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Bartender Software with Vantage

Dear Michael:

Thanks for your response. I think that I understand and I am trying
your example. I chose a blank button in my customized MES, removed
the EpiBinding, labeled it 'Print Tags', then I pasted your code
into the script editor.

Is this correct so far?

Would you be willing to send me a copy of your Tags.btw file so that
I can test the customization?

My email address is lynn.khalife@...

I only installed the Trial Bartender 2 days ago and I am still trying
to figure out how to get it to do what I need.

Thanks.

Lynn Khalife




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:

>
>
> Print them from a button using VB. Here is an example, I actualy
> pass the lotnumber("TagNumber") as a parameter into it to print a
> specific label. If you use the help in will explain the inputs.
> You just need to do process.start() and put in the parameters
>
> Private Sub btnOk_Click(ByVal Sender As Object, ByVal Args As
> System.EventArgs) Handles btnOk.Click
> Dim Printer As String = UDTagsForm.Session.UserID
> Dim UDTags As EpiDataView = Ctype(oTrans.EPiDataViews
> ("UDTags"),EpiDataView)
> Dim TagNumber As String = UDTags.dataView(UDTags.Row)("Key1")
> Dim strPath As String = "C:\Progra~1\Seagull\BarTender\8.0
> \bartend.exe"
> Dim strParam As String = "/F=C:\Tags.btw /PRN= /P /X /?
> TagNumber="&TagNumber
> Dim strParam2 As String = strParam.Insert(20,Printer)
> Process.Start(strPath, strParam2)
> End Sub
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6 Gen*
> > Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
> >
> > I want to begin using Bartender to create product and material
> > labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
> >
> > The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity and

MES-

> > ReceiptEntry.
> >
> > We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
> > containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in process. Is
> > there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand
> without
> > having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?
> >
> > We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional

modules

> > are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on 1/1.
> I
> > need to have some sort of container labeling method in place by
> 12/2.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find places to
> use
> > and test Bartender labels?
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced Solutions
> > Group,
> > > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> > >
> > > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format.
> Crystal
> > > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and AutoPrint's,
> too.
> > >
> > > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage.
> Everyone
> > here
> > > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
> Definitions
> > used
> > > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv,
> GenJob,
> > GenQA,
> > > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK

with

> > > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> > >
> > > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for the
> > average
> > > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> > >
> > > Support is horrible and very limited.
> > >
> > > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site consulting
> for
> > this.
> > > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget
> airfare,
> > hotel,
> > > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own
> and it
> > > could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if
> not
> > more.
> > >
> > > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price really
> isn't
> > > bad.
> > >
> > > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible,

but

> > > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> > >
> > > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld barcode
> > > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is

very

> > clunky
> > > and limited as far as customizing.
> > >
> > > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using
> > tethered
> > > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage Handheld
> UI.
> > >
> > > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
> > > Fulfillment Workbench?
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > >
> > > Vic
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Charles Carden
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management, hand
> held
> > > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to facilitate
> > > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to

the

> > > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate that
> it
> > is a
> > > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could
> > probably
> > > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,
> > however, I
> > > am really interested in the level of support I will receive in
> > getting
> > > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender
> > software
> > > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I

get

> it
> > from
> > > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
> > >
> > > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Charles Carden
> > > IT Manager
> > > Manitex, Inc.
> > > +1 (512) 942-3086
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential
> and/or
> > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or
> > entity to
> > > which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the
> > intended
> > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby
> > notified
> > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail

is

> > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> > notify the
> > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> > immediately.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

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[system]

My file will not work for you. My tag is based of UD01, this
customization passes a UD01 record to bartender that then links to
the job and order to put customer name and job details as well
as "tag" number on the label. Everytime they report a quantity it
creates a sequential number and creates UD01 record for that
quantity with job details. What info are you looking for on your
label?

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Michael:
>
> Thanks for your response. I think that I understand and I am
trying
> your example. I chose a blank button in my customized MES,
removed
> the EpiBinding, labeled it 'Print Tags', then I pasted your code
> into the script editor.
>
> Is this correct so far?
>
> Would you be willing to send me a copy of your Tags.btw file so
that
> I can test the customization?
>
> My email address is lynn.khalife@...
>
> I only installed the Trial Bartender 2 days ago and I am still
trying
> to figure out how to get it to do what I need.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lynn Khalife
>
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
> <mmcwilliams22@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Print them from a button using VB. Here is an example, I
actualy
> > pass the lotnumber("TagNumber") as a parameter into it to print
a
> > specific label. If you use the help in will explain the inputs.
> > You just need to do process.start() and put in the parameters
> >
> > Private Sub btnOk_Click(ByVal Sender As Object, ByVal Args As
> > System.EventArgs) Handles btnOk.Click
> > Dim Printer As String = UDTagsForm.Session.UserID
> > Dim UDTags As EpiDataView = Ctype(oTrans.EPiDataViews
> > ("UDTags"),EpiDataView)
> > Dim TagNumber As String = UDTags.dataView(UDTags.Row)("Key1")
> > Dim strPath As String = "C:\Progra~1\Seagull\BarTender\8.0
> > \bartend.exe"
> > Dim strParam As String = "/F=C:\Tags.btw /PRN= /P /X /?
> > TagNumber="&TagNumber
> > Dim strParam2 As String = strParam.Insert(20,Printer)
> > Process.Start(strPath, strParam2)
> > End Sub
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6
Gen*
> > > Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
> > >
> > > I want to begin using Bartender to create product and material
> > > labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
> > >
> > > The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity and
> MES-
> > > ReceiptEntry.
> > >
> > > We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
> > > containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in process.
Is
> > > there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand
> > without
> > > having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?
> > >
> > > We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional
> modules
> > > are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on
1/1.
> > I
> > > need to have some sort of container labeling method in place
by
> > 12/2.
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find places
to
> > use
> > > and test Bartender labels?
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced
Solutions
> > > Group,
> > > > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> > > >
> > > > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format.
> > Crystal
> > > > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and
AutoPrint's,
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage.
> > Everyone
> > > here
> > > > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
> > Definitions
> > > used
> > > > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv,
> > GenJob,
> > > GenQA,
> > > > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK
> with
> > > > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> > > >
> > > > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for
the
> > > average
> > > > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> > > >
> > > > Support is horrible and very limited.
> > > >
> > > > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site
consulting
> > for
> > > this.
> > > > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget
> > airfare,
> > > hotel,
> > > > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your
own
> > and it
> > > > could take you a week or two to hack through the install..
if
> > not
> > > more.
> > > >
> > > > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price
really
> > isn't
> > > > bad.
> > > >
> > > > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are
compatible,
> but
> > > > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> > > >
> > > > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld
barcode
> > > > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is
> very
> > > clunky
> > > > and limited as far as customizing.
> > > >
> > > > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using
> > > tethered
> > > > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage
Handheld
> > UI.
> > > >
> > > > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
> > > > Fulfillment Workbench?
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
> > On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Charles Carden
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management,
hand
> > held
> > > > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to
facilitate
> > > > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related
to
> the
> > > > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate
that
> > it
> > > is a
> > > > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I
could
> > > probably
> > > > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,
> > > however, I
> > > > am really interested in the level of support I will receive
in
> > > getting
> > > > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the
Bartender
> > > software
> > > > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I
> get
> > it
> > > from
> > > > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
> > > >
> > > > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Charles Carden
> > > > IT Manager
> > > > Manitex, Inc.
> > > > +1 (512) 942-3086
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential
> > and/or
> > > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person
or
> > > entity to
> > > > which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not
the
> > > intended
> > > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is
hereby
> > > notified
> > > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-
mail
> is
> > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
please
> > > notify the
> > > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> > > immediately.
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[system]

I have tried many times to find ways to get Crystal Reports to work
for me. It has too many limitations.

1. I have one customer who requires 2 fields to be concatenated into
1 field with spacebars in the middle. This is a very easy Crystal
formula to write. Problem is that the Crystal Bar39 font will not
properly code a spacebar. The barcode simply has a gap where the
spacebar character should have been coded and it will not scan. I
tried every suggestion I could gather from other users to overcome
this one.

2. We print labels for hundreds of product cartons (injection molded
plastic parts) every day. Each of these cartons need to have a
unique Trace number on them. Currently we use Label Matrix to print
these labels. I use a counter as part of the unique Trace Number.
Frequently, when a job increases, we need to go back and print
additional labels. At that time, we need to start the counter at the
number we left off at so that we don't get any duplicate trace
numbers. I tried using RunningTotal, PageNumber, and RecordNumber.
No matter what, I could not figure out a way to pass a parameter to a
counter in Crystal to get it to start at number 63 or 78 instead of
number 1.

3. About half of our customers require that each box have the unique
trace number printed on the label AND that each box have 2 copies of
that label -- one on each end of the box. Crystal is not able to
print "duplicates" while also printing unique labels for many
boxes. It would work only if we printed 1 label at a time. We print
hundreds, maybe thousands, of labels a day. We need these features
automated as much as possible.

4. We have a couple of customers who do require Code 128.

These are medical and automotive customers. They are sticklers about
their labeling standards.

I would have much preferred to use Crystal, but I just can't get it
to do all the things that I have been doing for years with the Label
Matrix barcode label software.

I appreciate any and all input. I am constantly searching old
messages from the group to find tried and true methods.

Thanks very much for your response to my cry for help.

Lynn



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...>
wrote:

>
> Lynn,
>
> Are you using Code39 or Code128?
>
> If you are using Code39 (standard on Vantage Travelers, etc) then

scrap

> BarTender and use Crystal Reports.
>
> Bartender is a convoluted PITA and you are limited to those 6 or so
> label types and system triggers.
>
> I used to install Bartender for Epicor customers... So much work

and

> linkage to get it installed when the same thing can be accomplished

with

> Crystal Reports pending you are using Code39.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of Lynn
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:05 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Bartender Software with Vantage
>
> Dear Michael:
>
> Thanks for your response. I think that I understand and I am

trying

> your example. I chose a blank button in my customized MES, removed
> the EpiBinding, labeled it 'Print Tags', then I pasted your code
> into the script editor.
>
> Is this correct so far?
>
> Would you be willing to send me a copy of your Tags.btw file so

that

> I can test the customization?
>
> My email address is lynn.khalife@...
>
> I only installed the Trial Bartender 2 days ago and I am still

trying

> to figure out how to get it to do what I need.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lynn Khalife
>
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
> <mmcwilliams22@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Print them from a button using VB. Here is an example, I actualy
> > pass the lotnumber("TagNumber") as a parameter into it to print a
> > specific label. If you use the help in will explain the inputs.
> > You just need to do process.start() and put in the parameters
> >
> > Private Sub btnOk_Click(ByVal Sender As Object, ByVal Args As
> > System.EventArgs) Handles btnOk.Click
> > Dim Printer As String = UDTagsForm.Session.UserID
> > Dim UDTags As EpiDataView = Ctype(oTrans.EPiDataViews
> > ("UDTags"),EpiDataView)
> > Dim TagNumber As String = UDTags.dataView(UDTags.Row)("Key1")
> > Dim strPath As String = "C:\Progra~1\Seagull\BarTender\8.0
> > \bartend.exe"
> > Dim strParam As String = "/F=C:\Tags.btw /PRN= /P /X /?
> > TagNumber="&TagNumber
> > Dim strParam2 As String = strParam.Insert(20,Printer)
> > Process.Start(strPath, strParam2)
> > End Sub
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6

Gen*

> > > Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
> > >
> > > I want to begin using Bartender to create product and material
> > > labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
> > >
> > > The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity and
> MES-
> > > ReceiptEntry.
> > >
> > > We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
> > > containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in process.

Is

> > > there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand
> > without
> > > having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?
> > >
> > > We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional
> modules
> > > are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on

1/1.

> > I
> > > need to have some sort of container labeling method in place by
> > 12/2.
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find places

to

> > use
> > > and test Bartender labels?
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced

Solutions

> > > Group,
> > > > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> > > >
> > > > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format.
> > Crystal
> > > > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and

AutoPrint's,

> > too.
> > > >
> > > > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage.
> > Everyone
> > > here
> > > > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
> > Definitions
> > > used
> > > > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv,
> > GenJob,
> > > GenQA,
> > > > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are OK
> with
> > > > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> > > >
> > > > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for

the

> > > average
> > > > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> > > >
> > > > Support is horrible and very limited.
> > > >
> > > > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site

consulting

> > for
> > > this.
> > > > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget
> > airfare,
> > > hotel,
> > > > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your own
> > and it
> > > > could take you a week or two to hack through the install.. if
> > not
> > > more.
> > > >
> > > > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price

really

> > isn't
> > > > bad.
> > > >
> > > > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are compatible,
> but
> > > > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> > > >
> > > > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld

barcode

> > > > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is
> very
> > > clunky
> > > > and limited as far as customizing.
> > > >
> > > > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and using
> > > tethered
> > > > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage

Handheld

> > UI.
> > > >
> > > > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using the
> > > > Fulfillment Workbench?
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]

> > On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Charles Carden
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management,

hand

> > held
> > > > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to

facilitate

> > > > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related to
> the
> > > > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate

that

> > it
> > > is a
> > > > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I could
> > > probably
> > > > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,
> > > however, I
> > > > am really interested in the level of support I will receive

in

> > > getting
> > > > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the Bartender
> > > software
> > > > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory I
> get
> > it
> > > from
> > > > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
> > > >
> > > > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Charles Carden
> > > > IT Manager
> > > > Manitex, Inc.
> > > > +1 (512) 942-3086
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential
> > and/or
> > > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person

or

> > > entity to
> > > > which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not

the

> > > intended
> > > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is

hereby

> > > notified
> > > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-

mail

> is
> > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
> > > notify the
> > > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> > > immediately.
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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>
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>

[system]

That's OK. Right now, the data on a label is not important. Right
now, I am just trying to figure out how to get Bartender to work in
Vantage.

I deleted the reference to TagNumber from the code you supplied and I
replaced Tags.btw with the Epicor-provided InventoryLabel.btw. My
code is bad. It doesn't even compile. I just don't know how to use
it. I searched Epicor's website for info on Bartender. There are no
instructions.

Right now, I think that I have no choice but to use ODBC to connect
Bartender to the Vantage/Progress database in order to get container
labels any time we need them. That's the direction I am heading now.

Since your code was calling out a strPath, this is what you are doing
with your button in MES anyway, right? Does your file Tags.btw use
an ODBC connection string?

Thanks.

Lynn






--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
<mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:

>
> My file will not work for you. My tag is based of UD01, this
> customization passes a UD01 record to bartender that then links to
> the job and order to put customer name and job details as well
> as "tag" number on the label. Everytime they report a quantity it
> creates a sequential number and creates UD01 record for that
> quantity with job details. What info are you looking for on your
> label?
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Michael:
> >
> > Thanks for your response. I think that I understand and I am
> trying
> > your example. I chose a blank button in my customized MES,
> removed
> > the EpiBinding, labeled it 'Print Tags', then I pasted your code
> > into the script editor.
> >
> > Is this correct so far?
> >
> > Would you be willing to send me a copy of your Tags.btw file so
> that
> > I can test the customization?
> >
> > My email address is lynn.khalife@
> >
> > I only installed the Trial Bartender 2 days ago and I am still
> trying
> > to figure out how to get it to do what I need.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Lynn Khalife
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
> > <mmcwilliams22@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Print them from a button using VB. Here is an example, I
> actualy
> > > pass the lotnumber("TagNumber") as a parameter into it to print
> a
> > > specific label. If you use the help in will explain the inputs.
> > > You just need to do process.start() and put in the parameters
> > >
> > > Private Sub btnOk_Click(ByVal Sender As Object, ByVal Args As
> > > System.EventArgs) Handles btnOk.Click
> > > Dim Printer As String = UDTagsForm.Session.UserID
> > > Dim UDTags As EpiDataView = Ctype(oTrans.EPiDataViews
> > > ("UDTags"),EpiDataView)
> > > Dim TagNumber As String = UDTags.dataView(UDTags.Row)

("Key1")

> > > Dim strPath As String = "C:\Progra~1\Seagull\BarTender\8.0
> > > \bartend.exe"
> > > Dim strParam As String = "/F=C:\Tags.btw /PRN= /P /X /?
> > > TagNumber="&TagNumber
> > > Dim strParam2 As String = strParam.Insert(20,Printer)
> > > Process.Start(strPath, strParam2)
> > > End Sub
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello:
> > > >
> > > > I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the 6
> Gen*
> > > > Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
> > > >
> > > > I want to begin using Bartender to create product and

material

> > > > labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
> > > >
> > > > The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity

and

> > MES-
> > > > ReceiptEntry.
> > > >
> > > > We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-label
> > > > containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in

process.

> Is
> > > > there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on demand
> > > without
> > > > having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to ODBC?
> > > >
> > > > We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional
> > modules
> > > > are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live on
> 1/1.
> > > I
> > > > need to have some sort of container labeling method in place
> by
> > > 12/2.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find

places

> to
> > > use
> > > > and test Bartender labels?
> > > >
> > > > Lynn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio"

<vic.drecchio@>

> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced
> Solutions
> > > > Group,
> > > > > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39 format.
> > > Crystal
> > > > > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and
> AutoPrint's,
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside Vantage.
> > > Everyone
> > > > here
> > > > > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
> > > Definitions
> > > > used
> > > > > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out: GenInv,
> > > GenJob,
> > > > GenQA,
> > > > > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you are

OK

> > with
> > > > > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> > > > >
> > > > > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot (for
> the
> > > > average
> > > > > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Support is horrible and very limited.
> > > > >
> > > > > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site
> consulting
> > > for
> > > > this.
> > > > > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget
> > > airfare,
> > > > hotel,
> > > > > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on your
> own
> > > and it
> > > > > could take you a week or two to hack through the install..
> if
> > > not
> > > > more.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price
> really
> > > isn't
> > > > > bad.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are
> compatible,
> > but
> > > > > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld
> barcode
> > > > > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI is
> > very
> > > > clunky
> > > > > and limited as far as customizing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and

using

> > > > tethered
> > > > > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage
> Handheld
> > > UI.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be using

the

> > > > > Fulfillment Workbench?
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Vic
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Charles Carden
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material Management,
> hand
> > > held
> > > > > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to
> facilitate
> > > > > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past related
> to
> > the
> > > > > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to indicate
> that
> > > it
> > > > is a
> > > > > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I
> could
> > > > probably
> > > > > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside Epicor,
> > > > however, I
> > > > > am really interested in the level of support I will receive
> in
> > > > getting
> > > > > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the
> Bartender
> > > > software
> > > > > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much mandatory

I

> > get
> > > it
> > > > from
> > > > > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the past?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Charles Carden
> > > > > IT Manager
> > > > > Manitex, Inc.
> > > > > +1 (512) 942-3086
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include

confidential

> > > and/or
> > > > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person
> or
> > > > entity to
> > > > > which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not
> the
> > > > intended
> > > > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is
> hereby
> > > > notified
> > > > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-
> mail
> > is
> > > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
> please
> > > > notify the
> > > > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail
> > > > immediately.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[system]

Yes my tag file is set up with for ODBC.
If you don't want to connect to you DB then you have another option.
Just set bartender and your label up to watch for a text file.
Bartender will monitor the folder you specify and then print. You
will have to create the text file using code in Vantage script
editor. I was told you cannot use any activeX within vantage, but
bartender does allow for integration that way. If anyone figures
out how that works please let me know.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> That's OK. Right now, the data on a label is not important.
Right
> now, I am just trying to figure out how to get Bartender to work
in
> Vantage.
>
> I deleted the reference to TagNumber from the code you supplied
and I
> replaced Tags.btw with the Epicor-provided InventoryLabel.btw. My
> code is bad. It doesn't even compile. I just don't know how to
use
> it. I searched Epicor's website for info on Bartender. There are
no
> instructions.
>
> Right now, I think that I have no choice but to use ODBC to
connect
> Bartender to the Vantage/Progress database in order to get
container
> labels any time we need them. That's the direction I am heading
now.
>
> Since your code was calling out a strPath, this is what you are
doing
> with your button in MES anyway, right? Does your file Tags.btw
use
> an ODBC connection string?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
> <mmcwilliams22@> wrote:
> >
> > My file will not work for you. My tag is based of UD01, this
> > customization passes a UD01 record to bartender that then links
to
> > the job and order to put customer name and job details as well
> > as "tag" number on the label. Everytime they report a quantity
it
> > creates a sequential number and creates UD01 record for that
> > quantity with job details. What info are you looking for on
your
> > label?
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Michael:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response. I think that I understand and I am
> > trying
> > > your example. I chose a blank button in my customized MES,
> > removed
> > > the EpiBinding, labeled it 'Print Tags', then I pasted your
code
> > > into the script editor.
> > >
> > > Is this correct so far?
> > >
> > > Would you be willing to send me a copy of your Tags.btw file
so
> > that
> > > I can test the customization?
> > >
> > > My email address is lynn.khalife@
> > >
> > > I only installed the Trial Bartender 2 days ago and I am still
> > trying
> > > to figure out how to get it to do what I need.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Lynn Khalife
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael McWilliams"
> > > <mmcwilliams22@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Print them from a button using VB. Here is an example, I
> > actualy
> > > > pass the lotnumber("TagNumber") as a parameter into it to
print
> > a
> > > > specific label. If you use the help in will explain the
inputs.
> > > > You just need to do process.start() and put in the parameters
> > > >
> > > > Private Sub btnOk_Click(ByVal Sender As Object, ByVal Args
As
> > > > System.EventArgs) Handles btnOk.Click
> > > > Dim Printer As String = UDTagsForm.Session.UserID
> > > > Dim UDTags As EpiDataView = Ctype(oTrans.EPiDataViews
> > > > ("UDTags"),EpiDataView)
> > > > Dim TagNumber As String = UDTags.dataView(UDTags.Row)
> ("Key1")
> > > > Dim strPath As String = "C:\Progra~1
\Seagull\BarTender\8.0
> > > > \bartend.exe"
> > > > Dim strParam As String = "/F=C:\Tags.btw /PRN= /P /X /?
> > > > TagNumber="&TagNumber
> > > > Dim strParam2 As String = strParam.Insert(20,Printer)
> > > > Process.Start(strPath, strParam2)
> > > > End Sub
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello:
> > > > >
> > > > > I see the Epicor-provided 6 Gen* data definitions and the
6
> > Gen*
> > > > > Report Styles and the 6 .btw files.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to begin using Bartender to create product and
> material
> > > > > labels; but I cannot figure out where to print them from.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only places I have found so far are MES-ReportQuantity
> and
> > > MES-
> > > > > ReceiptEntry.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will need to sometimes print labels to label and re-
label
> > > > > containers of material prior to Jobs Starting and in
> process.
> > Is
> > > > > there a place in Vantage where you can get a label on
demand
> > > > without
> > > > > having to do a transaction? Or will I need to resort to
ODBC?
> > > > >
> > > > > We have not yet gone live on all modules. Some additional
> > > modules
> > > > > are going live on 12/2; and the remaining are going live
on
> > 1/1.
> > > > I
> > > > > need to have some sort of container labeling method in
place
> > by
> > > > 12/2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone tell me where in the Vantage menu I can find
> places
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > and test Bartender labels?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio"
> <vic.drecchio@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a recent [happy] ex-employee of Epicor's Advanced
> > Solutions
> > > > > Group,
> > > > > > Barcoding/Labeling/Bartender, etc was one of my fortes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You don't need BarTender to print labels in Code39
format.
> > > > Crystal
> > > > > > works just fine and you can automate with BAMs and
> > AutoPrint's,
> > > > too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BarTender can only be used in limitation inside
Vantage.
> > > > Everyone
> > > > > here
> > > > > > with an install of Vantage already has the Report Data
> > > > Definitions
> > > > > used
> > > > > > for BarTender... There's only 6. Check them out:
GenInv,
> > > > GenJob,
> > > > > GenQA,
> > > > > > GenRcpt, GenShip, GenSO. That's it. As long as you
are
> OK
> > > with
> > > > > > Code39, you can do this easily with Crystal Reports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BarTender is clunky to set up, manage and troubleshoot
(for
> > the
> > > > > average
> > > > > > IT person) and is over sold and over pushed to customers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Support is horrible and very limited.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Epicor will want to sell you 2 or 3 days of on-site
> > consulting
> > > > for
> > > > > this.
> > > > > > So calculate that into your purchase price (don't forget
> > > > airfare,
> > > > > hotel,
> > > > > > car, expenses, perdiem, etc.). Otherwise you are on
your
> > own
> > > > and it
> > > > > > could take you a week or two to hack through the
install..
> > if
> > > > not
> > > > > more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can buy BarTender from anywhere, but Epicor's price
> > really
> > > > isn't
> > > > > > bad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stick with Zebra printers. Intermec and SATO are
> > compatible,
> > > but
> > > > > > Zebra's are good and reliable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Be careful with promises made with the wireless handheld
> > barcode
> > > > > > scanners such as the Intermec MC9090's. The Handheld UI
is
> > > very
> > > > > clunky
> > > > > > and limited as far as customizing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Consider using PioneerPOS touchscreens running MES and
> using
> > > > > tethered
> > > > > > Symbol LS2208 barcode scanners instead of the Vantage
> > Handheld
> > > > UI.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, why do you believe you need AMM? Will you be
using
> the
> > > > > > Fulfillment Workbench?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vic
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of Charles Carden
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:01 PM
> > > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Bartender Software with Vantage
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are looking at purchasing Advanced Material
Management,
> > hand
> > > > held
> > > > > > devices, label printers and the Bartender software to
> > facilitate
> > > > > > barcoding. I have seen several threads in the past
related
> > to
> > > the
> > > > > > Bartender software and Vantage. They all seem to
indicate
> > that
> > > > it
> > > > > is a
> > > > > > real challenge to get everything working. I know that I
> > could
> > > > > probably
> > > > > > purchase the Bartender software from someone beside
Epicor,
> > > > > however, I
> > > > > > am really interested in the level of support I will
receive
> > in
> > > > > getting
> > > > > > everything setup. Would it be better purchasing the
> > Bartender
> > > > > software
> > > > > > from someone besides Epicor or is it pretty much
mandatory
> I
> > > get
> > > > it
> > > > > from
> > > > > > them? What level of support has Epicor provided in the
past?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Charles Carden
> > > > > > IT Manager
> > > > > > Manitex, Inc.
> > > > > > +1 (512) 942-3086
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include
> confidential
> > > > and/or
> > > > > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the
person
> > or
> > > > > entity to
> > > > > > which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is
not
> > the
> > > > > intended
> > > > > > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is
> > hereby
> > > > > notified
> > > > > > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this
e-
> > mail
> > > is
> > > > > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
> > please
> > > > > notify the
> > > > > > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-
mail
> > > > > immediately.
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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> > >
> >
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