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Thank You Todd, This works just fine for what I need. The Tech support
response was of no use as usual. Chalk up one more for the group.
Thanks again
Mark Dupuis


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Boyle [mailto:jboyle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage]


Todd, thanks very much. I just did it in my training database and it
worked fine. I sure never asked this question in the right place. It
surprises me that no one from Epicor could have given me this answer.
Thanks Mark for asking the question. I had given up on this issue a year
ago and we have been using the workarounds I mentioned earlier.

Jerry Boyle
Sipco Molding Technologies
Meadville, Pa. 16335-6725
814.724.2243 x53
vantage 5.00.337

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:07 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage]


Jerry / Mark,

I've always handled this by going to the "Machine" master table. Delete the
associated work center and if you want, change the name to ZZ-Sold ( Pat's
idea which I've always liked ).

When you have more than one machine the number of machines is grayed out on
the work center table and if you goto the "Machine" tab from the "Work
Center" master table the associated work center is also grayed out. However
you can change or delete the associated work center if you go at it from the
"Machine" table.

Not that this makes any sense ... Classic Vantage style logic.

Actually, if anyone at EPICOR is paying attention the easy fix to make this
a bit more logical and intuitive would be to allow users to update the
associated work center within machine maintenance whether you arrive there
directly from the "Machine" table for from within the "Work Center" master
table.

Good luck

Todd Anderson



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Jerry / Mark,

I've always handled this by going to the "Machine" master table. Delete the
associated work center and if you want, change the name to ZZ-Sold ( Pat's
idea which I've always liked ).

When you have more than one machine the number of machines is grayed out on
the work center table and if you goto the "Machine" tab from the "Work
Center" master table the associated work center is also grayed out. However
you can change or delete the associated work center if you go at it from the
"Machine" table.

Not that this makes any sense ... Classic Vantage style logic.

Actually, if anyone at EPICOR is paying attention the easy fix to make this
a bit more logical and intuitive would be to allow users to update the
associated work center within machine maintenance whether you arrive there
directly from the "Machine" table for from within the "Work Center" master
table.

Good luck

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Boyle [mailto:jboyle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage]


Mark, I have tried for a couple of years to find a way to resolve this with
no success. Epicor has not been able to help either. I have raised the
question at meetings and through support. We have resorted to reducing the
available hours on the disposed machines to 0. This has caused us problems
in some workcenters and we have had to leave 1 hour in (and reduce the hours
on actual machines to compensate) or scheduling will not work. The number
of machines is wrong (because we are not to change this number) but at least
our available hours are correct for scheduling. Not a good solution. If
you find a better one, PLEASE let me know.

Jerry Boyle
Sipco Molding Technologies
Meadville, Pa. 16335-6725
814.724.2243 x53
vantage 5.00.337

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Dupuis [mailto:dupuism@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:30 AM
To: Vantage Users Group
Subject: [Vantage]


Hello Group,
Here's todays problem.
We have been using many workcenters with mulitiple machines defined.
We
have recently sold 4 machines from one workcenter. The system will not
allow me to delete these 4. I get "Labor statistics have been posted to
this machine. DELETION NOT ALLOWED". I need to change the number of
machines at that workcenter from 5 to 1. Please tell me there is a way to
remove these machines without having to change every labor posting.

TIA
Mark Dupuis



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Todd, thanks very much. I just did it in my training database and it
worked fine. I sure never asked this question in the right place. It
surprises me that no one from Epicor could have given me this answer.
Thanks Mark for asking the question. I had given up on this issue a year
ago and we have been using the workarounds I mentioned earlier.

Jerry Boyle
Sipco Molding Technologies
Meadville, Pa. 16335-6725
814.724.2243 x53
vantage 5.00.337

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:07 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage]


Jerry / Mark,

I've always handled this by going to the "Machine" master table. Delete the
associated work center and if you want, change the name to ZZ-Sold ( Pat's
idea which I've always liked ).

When you have more than one machine the number of machines is grayed out on
the work center table and if you goto the "Machine" tab from the "Work
Center" master table the associated work center is also grayed out. However
you can change or delete the associated work center if you go at it from the
"Machine" table.

Not that this makes any sense ... Classic Vantage style logic.

Actually, if anyone at EPICOR is paying attention the easy fix to make this
a bit more logical and intuitive would be to allow users to update the
associated work center within machine maintenance whether you arrive there
directly from the "Machine" table for from within the "Work Center" master
table.

Good luck

Todd Anderson