Blanket Jobs Blank Title 59649

Sorry, 8.00811B, not 8.03

Mike

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mikenkay@...> wrote:
>
> We do this, cells on kanban... we're running 8.03.... kanban
function
> doesn't drive purchasing as we need it, long lead times, etc....
> blanket order to drive purchasing, kanban drives production....
> estimate 30 days production as blanket size, close at end of month
to
> process costing....scheduling funtion is of no use to us,
> cannot "poke holes" in it, i.e., it assumes that once you start
> production on a job, you run non-stop until done, not the case
> here....
>
> Mike
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "vantage" <vantage@> wrote:
> >
> > You may want to look into Kanban
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@]
> > Sent: October 04, 2007 11:42 AM
> > To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
> >
> >
> >
> > Our scheduling problems are a whole nother issue. You can say we
> don't use
> > Vantage to schedule!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> .com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Charlie Smith
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:38 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
> >
> > Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > .com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
vantage@yahoogroups
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com<mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com>]
> > On Behalf
> > Of Jasper Recto
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
> > To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
> > Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
> >
> > There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts.
> These
> > would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as
> they
> > need more parts.
> >
> > Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?
> >
> > _._,___
> >
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> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts. These would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as they need more parts.

Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?

Thanks,
Jasper



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Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs



There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts. These
would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as they
need more parts.

Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?



_._,___



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Our scheduling problems are a whole nother issue. You can say we don't use Vantage to schedule!

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Charlie Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs



Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs

There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts. These
would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as they
need more parts.

Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?

_._,___

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You may want to look into Kanban



-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: October 04, 2007 11:42 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs



Our scheduling problems are a whole nother issue. You can say we don't use
Vantage to schedule!

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com]On
Behalf Of Charlie Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs

Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs

There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts. These
would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as they
need more parts.

Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?

_._,___

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Nor should you bother trying if your processes have any complexity to them... Weakest scheduler functionality (considering the relatively complex resource group/resource/calendar data structures needed to model a job shop) I've ever seen.



Jasper Recto <jrecto@...> wrote:
Our scheduling problems are a whole nother issue. You can say we don't use Vantage to schedule!

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Charlie Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs

Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs

There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts. These
would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as they
need more parts.

Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?

_._,___

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.

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I would recommend against the blanket jobs primarily because you will
not be able to use the most powerful tool in v8.03.403 and that is
the Global Rescheduling. If you are not using it, I would encourage
to move toward that goal as rapidly as possible. - Monte

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> Nor should you bother trying if your processes have any complexity
to them... Weakest scheduler functionality (considering the
relatively complex resource group/resource/calendar data structures
needed to model a job shop) I've ever seen.
>
>
>
> Jasper Recto <jrecto@...> wrote:
> Our scheduling problems are a whole nother issue. You can
say we don't use Vantage to schedule!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Charlie Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:38 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
>
> Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]
On Behalf
> Of Jasper Recto
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
> To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
> Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
>
> There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts.
These
> would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as
they
> need more parts.
>
> Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?
>
> _._,___
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s
user panel and lay it on us.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
So what I get from all the responses is .. BAD IDEA!

Just as I thought it would be.

Thanks everybody, I will fight the good fight!
Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Monte Tomerlin
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:53 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs



I would recommend against the blanket jobs primarily because you will
not be able to use the most powerful tool in v8.03.403 and that is
the Global Rescheduling. If you are not using it, I would encourage
to move toward that goal as rapidly as possible. - Monte

--- In vantage@yahoogroups­.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@­...>
wrote:
>
> Nor should you bother trying if your processes have any complexity
to them... Weakest scheduler functionality (considering the
relatively complex resource group/resource/­calendar data structures
needed to model a job shop) I've ever seen.
>
>
>
> Jasper Recto <jrecto@...> wrote:
> Our scheduling problems are a whole nother issue. You can
say we don't use Vantage to schedule!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups­.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups­.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]On
Behalf Of Charlie Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:38 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups­.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
>
> Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups­.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%­40yahoogroups.­com>
[mailto: vantage@yahoogroups­.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%­40yahoogroups.­com>]
On Behalf
> Of Jasper Recto
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
> To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
> Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
>
> There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts.
These
> would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as
they
> need more parts.
>
> Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?
>
> _._,___
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------­---------­---------­---
> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s
user panel and lay it on us.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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We do this, cells on kanban... we're running 8.03.... kanban function
doesn't drive purchasing as we need it, long lead times, etc....
blanket order to drive purchasing, kanban drives production....
estimate 30 days production as blanket size, close at end of month to
process costing....scheduling funtion is of no use to us,
cannot "poke holes" in it, i.e., it assumes that once you start
production on a job, you run non-stop until done, not the case
here....

Mike


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "vantage" <vantage@...> wrote:
>
> You may want to look into Kanban
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
> Sent: October 04, 2007 11:42 AM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
>
>
>
> Our scheduling problems are a whole nother issue. You can say we
don't use
> Vantage to schedule!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com]
On
> Behalf Of Charlie Smith
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:38 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
>
> Kinda hard to schedule a blanket job.
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> .com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf
> Of Jasper Recto
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:55 AM
> To: Vantage Groups (E-mail)
> Subject: [Vantage] Blanket Jobs
>
> There has been a push to use blanket jobs on some of our parts.
These
> would be jobs that stay open and they adjust the run quantity as
they
> need more parts.
>
> Does anybody do this? What are the repercussions?
>
> _._,___
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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