Celeron versus Pentium processor

system · July 12, 2002, 5:40pm

I just upgraded HD and RAM on a bunch of P233 and P333 celerons for Vantage
and gen office WS's. Work great. Don't need a speed demon CPU for a
Vantage ws.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:34 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Celeron versus Pentium processor

I would venture to say that based on microsofts development methodology,
which seems to be to save the user and the developer time, at the expense of
increased hardware requirements, it is best to get a processor that will
account future software upgrades (look at the vantage for progress CPU
requirements versus vantage for progress/SQL). If you are looking to cut
CPU cost while still purchasing systems that will perform well now, and
handle the next OS upgrade or two, check out

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-275381.html?legacy=cnet

http://www.berrybros.net/htpc/Setupguide/home.htm

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2098643,00.html

In the desktop market, AMD is a better buy than a Pentium or Celeron.
Unless you want to sacrifice performance for the sake of getting a chip that
says "Intel" on it.

Of course, as mentioned, the CPU speed is not really the determining factor
with vantage if you are running at least 5-600 mhz. I would say that not
enough RAM and slow hard drives are the main performance bottlenecks on our
non-CAD workstations. Doubling the processor speed on these machines would
be like doubling your engine size before fixing a stuck e-brake.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Information Solutions Developer
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Boyes [mailto:brianb@...]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Celeron versus Pentium processor

All of the machines we have purchased recently have been celerons. They work
great just as well as equivalent PIII's for Vantage and everything else
except heavy number crunching (in our case, AutoCAD).

Brian

> -----Original Message-----
> We have never used Celeron processor based PC's in the company. I was
> wondering if Vantage runs as efficiently on Celeron as it would on
> Pentium machine..

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system · July 12, 2002, 1:00pm

We have never used Celeron processor based PC's in the company. I was
wondering if Vantage runs as efficiently on Celeron as it would on
Pentium machine.

Mike Tonoyan / All American Products Co.
miket@...

system · July 12, 2002, 1:01pm

I would venture to say yes. However, why not use an AMD processor instead?
For the price it will probably beat the pentium in performance as well.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Information Solutions Developer
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: miket91326 [mailto:miket@...]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:00 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Celeron versus Pentium processor

We have never used Celeron processor based PC's in the company. I was
wondering if Vantage runs as efficiently on Celeron as it would on
Pentium machine.

Mike Tonoyan / All American Products Co.
miket@...

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system · July 12, 2002, 1:08pm

All of the machines we have purchased recently have been celerons. They work
great just as well as equivalent PIII's for Vantage and everything else
except heavy number crunching (in our case, AutoCAD).

Brian

> -----Original Message-----
> We have never used Celeron processor based PC's in the company. I was
> wondering if Vantage runs as efficiently on Celeron as it would on
> Pentium machine..

system · July 12, 2002, 1:33pm

I would venture to say that based on microsofts development methodology,
which seems to be to save the user and the developer time, at the expense of
increased hardware requirements, it is best to get a processor that will
account future software upgrades (look at the vantage for progress CPU
requirements versus vantage for progress/SQL). If you are looking to cut
CPU cost while still purchasing systems that will perform well now, and
handle the next OS upgrade or two, check out

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-275381.html?legacy=cnet

http://www.berrybros.net/htpc/Setupguide/home.htm

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2098643,00.html

In the desktop market, AMD is a better buy than a Pentium or Celeron.
Unless you want to sacrifice performance for the sake of getting a chip that
says "Intel" on it.

Of course, as mentioned, the CPU speed is not really the determining factor
with vantage if you are running at least 5-600 mhz. I would say that not
enough RAM and slow hard drives are the main performance bottlenecks on our
non-CAD workstations. Doubling the processor speed on these machines would
be like doubling your engine size before fixing a stuck e-brake.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Information Solutions Developer
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Boyes [mailto:brianb@...]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Celeron versus Pentium processor

All of the machines we have purchased recently have been celerons. They work
great just as well as equivalent PIII's for Vantage and everything else
except heavy number crunching (in our case, AutoCAD).

Brian

> -----Original Message-----
> We have never used Celeron processor based PC's in the company. I was
> wondering if Vantage runs as efficiently on Celeron as it would on
> Pentium machine..

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system · July 12, 2002, 1:38pm

60% of our machines are Celeron 500Mhz machines we built ourself, of which
all of the shop floor data collection PCare . They work great. Heck we
have a bunch of Pentium II 200Mhz machines that work great too. For day to
day Vantage use without needing power for other aps (like Office) the low
price of low-end Celeron machines is hard to beat. We can't tell the
difference in Vantage from a Celeron to any other including the higher end
Pentium III and IV's.
-Todd C.

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Subject: [Vantage] Celeron versus Pentium processor

We have never used Celeron processor based PC's in the company. I was
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Pentium machine.

Mike Tonoyan / All American Products Co.
miket@...

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system · July 12, 2002, 4:25pm

Thad, Brian and Todd thank you for your support.

Mike Tonoyan / All American Products Co.
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Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Celeron versus Pentium processor

> 60% of our machines are Celeron 500Mhz machines we built ourself, of which
> all of the shop floor data collection PCare . They work great. Heck we
> have a bunch of Pentium II 200Mhz machines that work great too. For day
to
> day Vantage use without needing power for other aps (like Office) the low
> price of low-end Celeron machines is hard to beat. We can't tell the
> difference in Vantage from a Celeron to any other including the higher end
> Pentium III and IV's.
> -Todd C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: miket91326 [mailto:miket@...]
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:00 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Celeron versus Pentium processor
>
>
> We have never used Celeron processor based PC's in the company. I was
> wondering if Vantage runs as efficiently on Celeron as it would on
> Pentium machine.
>
> Mike Tonoyan / All American Products Co.
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