China - Vantage 6.1

We are currently running Vantage 6.1 in China and to my knowledge are not having any issues with modules not translating? Can you please tell me what modules and what issues you are having and I can confirm on my end?

Regards,

Dave Miller
Prince Industries, Inc.

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From: "jonathan9962003" <jonathan9962003@...>
We installed 6.1 in Shanghai last year . We do not yet run Vantage
in the States operation. We are presently working on 8.0 switch
over.

6.1 has several modules that do not work with the China translation
although Epicor is happy to promote and sell them and charge
maintenance. So far as China local VAT and tax issues for the
accounting module, 6,1 will not be able to satisfy China tax bureau
requirements. 8.0 is being promoted as "certified" and there is
a "localization" add on module for 8.0 that will enable some tie-in
to use of the "Golden Tax" software for printing vat invoices. I
believe Epicor is still working on getting current certification for
the latest version. The mappings and report structure did not appear
to be correct and complete enough to use on the demo that I saw a
few months ago.

You can contact me offline on jdickinson@... . I'm
based in Shanghai.

Jonathan Dickinson

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> We have a small manufacturing operation we started just outside
Shangai. We are currently running Vantage 6.1 in the U.S.
>
> Any recommendations/contacts to discuss localization issues?
>
> I have a request into my CAM but thought I would ask here as
well.
>
>
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We have a small manufacturing operation we started just outside Shangai. We are currently running Vantage 6.1 in the U.S.

Any recommendations/contacts to discuss localization issues?

I have a request into my CAM but thought I would ask here as well.


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We installed 6.1 in Shanghai last year . We do not yet run Vantage
in the States operation. We are presently working on 8.0 switch
over.

6.1 has several modules that do not work with the China translation
although Epicor is happy to promote and sell them and charge
maintenance. So far as China local VAT and tax issues for the
accounting module, 6,1 will not be able to satisfy China tax bureau
requirements. 8.0 is being promoted as "certified" and there is
a "localization" add on module for 8.0 that will enable some tie-in
to use of the "Golden Tax" software for printing vat invoices. I
believe Epicor is still working on getting current certification for
the latest version. The mappings and report structure did not appear
to be correct and complete enough to use on the demo that I saw a
few months ago.

You can contact me offline on jdickinson@... . I'm
based in Shanghai.

Jonathan Dickinson

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Rough Brothers <roughbros@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small manufacturing operation we started just outside
Shangai. We are currently running Vantage 6.1 in the U.S.
>
> Any recommendations/contacts to discuss localization issues?
>
> I have a request into my CAM but thought I would ask here as
well.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Do you have the specific modules which don't work with the China translation? We're just in the process of purchasing this for 6.1 and it would be nice to have this information before we pull the trigger.

Mike Lowe
Corporate I.T. Manager
Connor Manufacturing Services
MLowe@...
(949) 713-3328

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jonathan9962003
Sent: Sat 9/9/2006 6:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: China - Vantage 6.1



We installed 6.1 in Shanghai last year . We do not yet run Vantage
in the States operation. We are presently working on 8.0 switch
over.

6.1 has several modules that do not work with the China translation
although Epicor is happy to promote and sell them and charge
maintenance. So far as China local VAT and tax issues for the
accounting module, 6,1 will not be able to satisfy China tax bureau
requirements. 8.0 is being promoted as "certified" and there is
a "localization" add on module for 8.0 that will enable some tie-in
to use of the "Golden Tax" software for printing vat invoices. I
believe Epicor is still working on getting current certification for
the latest version. The mappings and report structure did not appear
to be correct and complete enough to use on the demo that I saw a
few months ago.

You can contact me offline on jdickinson@... <mailto:jdickinson%40rsadesign.com.cn> . I'm
based in Shanghai.

Jonathan Dickinson

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , Rough Brothers <roughbros@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small manufacturing operation we started just outside
Shangai. We are currently running Vantage 6.1 in the U.S.
>
> Any recommendations/contacts to discuss localization issues?
>
> I have a request into my CAM but thought I would ask here as
well.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Sales engineer mobile connect, customer connect do not work as confirmed by Epicor. The sales engineer connect is one module I really want to see work in 8.0 as most of my interaction with export customers is done after hours away from the office.

Unconfirmed but suspected to not function with China 6.1 are Asset Management, Document Management Pro.

Payroll does not work however we bought it thinking that it may be suitable for very basic HR record keeping as we are doing shop employee data collection, generating reports, and that it may be possible to customize to run payroll with some changes of field names. China payroll is actually very black and white and not too different from US payroll system. It appears that the many ways that some Chinese companies try to cheat the system are what gives the impression that the payroll system here is complex. Epicor could make this module fit local use.

We bought Multi-site with a plan to tie in our US facility which is becoming more of a sales office so would only need perhaps 3 - 5 users. At this point it does not appear that the China internet and firewall will give a usable connection unless we sign up for an expensive dedicated line.

Feedback from Epicor consultants is that no-one has been able to make the accounting module work for China accounting purposes in 6.1 or 8.0. The certification that Epicor are talking about in their sales pitch does not mean that your local bureau will allow its use as a basis for accounting, as far as I know. We use Vantage for internal reporting only.

For implementation and training in China you should be prepared to do this mostly on your own, the local consultants are still short on experience but they are improving. There is a fellow in Epicor HK office that is quite good to work with.

Jonathan Dickinson
RSA Design China
+86 13918838988
jdickinson@...


Mike Lowe <MLowe@...> wrote:
Do you have the specific modules which don't work with the China translation? We're just in the process of purchasing this for 6.1 and it would be nice to have this information before we pull the trigger.

Mike Lowe
Corporate I.T. Manager
Connor Manufacturing Services
MLowe@...
(949) 713-3328

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jonathan9962003
Sent: Sat 9/9/2006 6:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: China - Vantage 6.1

We installed 6.1 in Shanghai last year . We do not yet run Vantage
in the States operation. We are presently working on 8.0 switch
over.

6.1 has several modules that do not work with the China translation
although Epicor is happy to promote and sell them and charge
maintenance. So far as China local VAT and tax issues for the
accounting module, 6,1 will not be able to satisfy China tax bureau
requirements. 8.0 is being promoted as "certified" and there is
a "localization" add on module for 8.0 that will enable some tie-in
to use of the "Golden Tax" software for printing vat invoices. I
believe Epicor is still working on getting current certification for
the latest version. The mappings and report structure did not appear
to be correct and complete enough to use on the demo that I saw a
few months ago.

You can contact me offline on jdickinson@... <mailto:jdickinson%40rsadesign.com.cn> . I'm
based in Shanghai.

Jonathan Dickinson

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , Rough Brothers <roughbros@...> wrote:
>
> We have a small manufacturing operation we started just outside
Shangai. We are currently running Vantage 6.1 in the U.S.
>
> Any recommendations/contacts to discuss localization issues?
>
> I have a request into my CAM but thought I would ask here as
well.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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