CorVu Demo Blank Title 71004

> Performance Point is quite different to CorVu, Microsoft have an area
> of their website dedicated to it so it would be best to read up on it
> there.

I was told offline by a knowledgeable CorVu user, whose initials are BW ;-),
that the data are stored in a proprietary structure called a "Dynamart
file".

Mark W.
Does anybody know where I can find a CorVu demo. I would like to see how it works and how it looks.

Thanks,

Jasper



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Yup. Ask your CAM. They'll be happy to demo it for you.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:32 PM
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Subject: [Vantage] CorVu Demo

Does anybody know where I can find a CorVu demo. I would like to see
how it works and how it looks.

Thanks,

Jasper



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> Yup. Ask your CAM. They'll be happy to demo it for you.
>

While I saw CorVu at Perspectives, I couldn't help notice a new product
released with Epicor 9: Epicor Cube Connect. Cube Connect allows you to
create OLAP cubes in SQL Server. Once there, you can view these cubes with
many different kinds of vendor tools and not just CorVu.

Hmmm.

Mark W.

P.S. I saw this document out on the Web if you want more information on
Epicor 9:

http://paradigmanalytics.com/images/Brochures/Epicor/Epicor_9_Overview.pdf

It's listed as pre-release...
Frankly, if you have SQL, you can do all of the data cubing with procs
and, Mark, you're right, you don't even need CorVu.

Progress folks don't have many options.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:55 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] CorVu Demo

>
> Yup. Ask your CAM. They'll be happy to demo it for you.
>

While I saw CorVu at Perspectives, I couldn't help notice a new product
released with Epicor 9: Epicor Cube Connect. Cube Connect allows you to
create OLAP cubes in SQL Server. Once there, you can view these cubes
with
many different kinds of vendor tools and not just CorVu.

Hmmm.

Mark W.

P.S. I saw this document out on the Web if you want more information on
Epicor 9:

http://paradigmanalytics.com/images/Brochures/Epicor/Epicor_9_Overview.p
df

It's listed as pre-release...



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> Frankly, if you have SQL, you can do all of the data cubing with procs
> and, Mark, you're right, you don't even need CorVu.
>
> Progress folks don't have many options.

I've only used the user-based tools, so I hope people will correct me if I'm
wrong, but my understanding is that CorVue dumps its load into an SQL
instance as well. So it really doesn't matter if you're using Progress or
not since all of the OLAP stuff is done in the SQL Server either way. Yes,
you can write your own cubes using SQL Server Studio given sufficient
database knowledge. I think the Cube Connect is one of the "friendly" tools
for those who aren't as "techy".

There was a demo of a product that was CorVu like but it used SharePoint to
expose the cube and your web browser becomes the front-end that allows users
to drill into the cube. It was pretty cool and fairly easy to setup.

Mark W.
CorVu does not run off of a seperate SQL instance, it connects to
your live data (unless you've got the resource to be able to setup a
data warehouse), but you can schedule queries to run out of hours.

Looking at the Epicor 9 docs the other product you talk about is
Microsoft PerformancePoint 2007, another BI tool, which can integrate
with SharePoint 2007 (and hopefully WSS 3.0 !). The Microsoft BI
tools aren't up to Business Objects standards yet but they will be
eventualy.

I doubt Epicor would say it in public but it's pretty obvious that
Epicor 9 will be CorVu's tombstone...


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> > Frankly, if you have SQL, you can do all of the data cubing with
procs
> > and, Mark, you're right, you don't even need CorVu.
> >
> > Progress folks don't have many options.
>
> I've only used the user-based tools, so I hope people will correct
me if I'm
> wrong, but my understanding is that CorVue dumps its load into an
SQL
> instance as well. So it really doesn't matter if you're using
Progress or
> not since all of the OLAP stuff is done in the SQL Server either
way. Yes,
> you can write your own cubes using SQL Server Studio given
sufficient
> database knowledge. I think the Cube Connect is one of
the "friendly" tools
> for those who aren't as "techy".
>
> There was a demo of a product that was CorVu like but it used
SharePoint to
> expose the cube and your web browser becomes the front-end that
allows users
> to drill into the cube. It was pretty cool and fairly easy to setup.
>
> Mark W.
>
Hi Clive,

> CorVu does not run off of a seperate SQL instance, it connects to
> your live data (unless you've got the resource to be able to setup a
> data warehouse), but you can schedule queries to run out of hours.

If it runs the queries at off hours, where do it results go? Into a database
or just some proprietary file format?

> Looking at the Epicor 9 docs the other product you talk about is
> Microsoft PerformancePoint 2007, another BI tool, which can integrate
> with SharePoint 2007 (and hopefully WSS 3.0 !). The Microsoft BI
> tools aren't up to Business Objects standards yet but they will be
> eventualy.
>
> I doubt Epicor would say it in public but it's pretty obvious that
> Epicor 9 will be CorVu's tombstone...

If CorVu wasn't at Perspectives, I would call it an immediate tombstone but
there does seem to be some competition here now and it does make one wonder
what the future holds. Is PerformancePoint as good as CorVu or just
different?

Mark W.
Why is Epicor 9 CorVu's tombstone? What is replacing CorVu in 9?



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: CorVu Demo



Hi Clive,

> CorVu does not run off of a seperate SQL instance, it connects to
> your live data (unless you've got the resource to be able to setup a
> data warehouse), but you can schedule queries to run out of hours.

If it runs the queries at off hours, where do it results go? Into a
database
or just some proprietary file format?

> Looking at the Epicor 9 docs the other product you talk about is
> Microsoft PerformancePoint 2007, another BI tool, which can integrate
> with SharePoint 2007 (and hopefully WSS 3.0 !). The Microsoft BI
> tools aren't up to Business Objects standards yet but they will be
> eventualy.
>
> I doubt Epicor would say it in public but it's pretty obvious that
> Epicor 9 will be CorVu's tombstone...

If CorVu wasn't at Perspectives, I would call it an immediate tombstone
but
there does seem to be some competition here now and it does make one
wonder
what the future holds. Is PerformancePoint as good as CorVu or just
different?

Mark W.





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I'm not certain how CorVu stores the data from a scheduled query, it
doesn't install MSDE/SQL Express or anything like so someone with
more knowledge of it will have to answer this. Personaly I use CorVu
as a means of presenting data from SQL 2005 stored procedures, which
it does pretty well allowing our users to input parameters such as
dates and part numbers, and this is all live and not scheduled.

Performance Point is quite different to CorVu, Microsoft have an area
of their website dedicated to it so it would be best to read up on it
there. I'm quite green on it realy, but it seems to be tailored so
that the results are shown on a screen rather than a printed page, so
at the business I work at we'll be using CorVu for a while yet.

I'm interested in it as we use SharePoint for our Intranet so having
decent KPI's shown it would be cool, but I reserve judgement until I
see how much Epicor will charge for it.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Clive,
>
> > CorVu does not run off of a seperate SQL instance, it connects to
> > your live data (unless you've got the resource to be able to
setup a
> > data warehouse), but you can schedule queries to run out of hours.
>
> If it runs the queries at off hours, where do it results go? Into a
database
> or just some proprietary file format?
>
> > Looking at the Epicor 9 docs the other product you talk about is
> > Microsoft PerformancePoint 2007, another BI tool, which can
integrate
> > with SharePoint 2007 (and hopefully WSS 3.0 !). The Microsoft BI
> > tools aren't up to Business Objects standards yet but they will be
> > eventualy.
> >
> > I doubt Epicor would say it in public but it's pretty obvious that
> > Epicor 9 will be CorVu's tombstone...
>
> If CorVu wasn't at Perspectives, I would call it an immediate
tombstone but
> there does seem to be some competition here now and it does make
one wonder
> what the future holds. Is PerformancePoint as good as CorVu or just
> different?
>
> Mark W.
>