Crystal Reports 9 & 10

Yeah, that is what I am hearing from them as well. I wish there was some
kind of work around for this. I feel kind of stuck. There are things
that 9 will give me that will make my life so much easier (Memo fields
and suppressing blank subreports.) And 10 with the new Crystal
Enterprises.

What I would like to do is to continue to modify the forms and the
vantage reports written in Crystal 8.5 with 8.5 and write all my report
in Crystal 10 and serve them on the web with Crystal Enterprise 10. Does
anybody have any experience with connecting 10 to the database?

Thanks
Rhonda

Rhonda Reilly
Information Resource Manager
Energy Cranes LLC.
985.893.1818
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Stenglein [mailto:bstenglein@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:18 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Crystal Reports 9 & 10

The information I received from Epicor at a user group meeting was
that they are staying with 8.5 until Sonoma comes out. At that time
they will jump to 10, skipping 9.

Brian Stenglein
Clow Stamping Co.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Rodney Warwick <r.warwick@s...> wrote:
> A representative from Crystal Decisions / Business Objects told me
that
> there were licensing changes when Crystal version 9 was introduced,
which
> made it more expensive for OEM's. She said she believed the only
reason an
> OEM would stay with Crystal version 8.5, would be to save money.
>
> Regards
>
> Rodney Warwick
> The Signcraft Group
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Shallbetter [mailto:dans@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:05 AM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10
>
>
> What I was told by Crystal is that with release 9 the product was
rewritten
> to conform with some new international character set, and that a
lot of the
> OEM's (Epicor) using the product had conformed to the new standards
yet.
> They also mentioned that release 10 would no longer save a report
as a
> version 8.5. That maybe an issue depending on what version of
Vantage.
>
> Dan Shallbetter
> States Electric Mfg.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reilly, Rhonda [mailto:rreilly@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:55 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10
>
>
> So what does it mean that Epicor doesn't support crystal 9 and 10?
Does that
> mean it won't work or does it mean that they won't help with any
problems.
> I would really like to go to Crystal 10 to stay current with the
report
> writing world. Plus I would like to upgrade crystal enterprises.
>
> Rhonda Reilly
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So what does it mean that Epicor doesn't support crystal 9 and 10? Does
that mean it won't work or does it mean that they won't help with any
problems. I would really like to go to Crystal 10 to stay current with
the report writing world. Plus I would like to upgrade crystal
enterprises.

Rhonda Reilly
Information Resource Manager
Energy Cranes LLC.
985.893.1818
985.893.1879 fax
What I was told by Crystal is that with release 9 the product was rewritten
to conform with some new international character set, and that a lot of the
OEM's (Epicor) using the product had conformed to the new standards yet.
They also mentioned that release 10 would no longer save a report as a
version 8.5. That maybe an issue depending on what version of Vantage.

Dan Shallbetter
States Electric Mfg.


-----Original Message-----
From: Reilly, Rhonda [mailto:rreilly@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:55 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10


So what does it mean that Epicor doesn't support crystal 9 and 10? Does
that mean it won't work or does it mean that they won't help with any
problems. I would really like to go to Crystal 10 to stay current with
the report writing world. Plus I would like to upgrade crystal
enterprises.

Rhonda Reilly
Information Resource Manager
Energy Cranes LLC.
985.893.1818
985.893.1879 fax




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A representative from Crystal Decisions / Business Objects told me that
there were licensing changes when Crystal version 9 was introduced, which
made it more expensive for OEM's. She said she believed the only reason an
OEM would stay with Crystal version 8.5, would be to save money.

Regards

Rodney Warwick
The Signcraft Group

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Shallbetter [mailto:dans@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10


What I was told by Crystal is that with release 9 the product was rewritten
to conform with some new international character set, and that a lot of the
OEM's (Epicor) using the product had conformed to the new standards yet.
They also mentioned that release 10 would no longer save a report as a
version 8.5. That maybe an issue depending on what version of Vantage.

Dan Shallbetter
States Electric Mfg.


-----Original Message-----
From: Reilly, Rhonda [mailto:rreilly@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:55 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10


So what does it mean that Epicor doesn't support crystal 9 and 10? Does that
mean it won't work or does it mean that they won't help with any problems.
I would really like to go to Crystal 10 to stay current with the report
writing world. Plus I would like to upgrade crystal enterprises.

Rhonda Reilly
Information Resource Manager
Energy Cranes LLC.
985.893.1818
985.893.1879 fax




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Something to consider as well. Every time Epicor upgrades the report engine it forces the end users, at least the users that customize their forms (which is probably a large percentage of this list) to upgrade to the corresponding version of Crystal.



-----Original Message-----
From: Rodney Warwick [mailto:r.warwick@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:00 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10


A representative from Crystal Decisions / Business Objects told me that
there were licensing changes when Crystal version 9 was introduced, which
made it more expensive for OEM's. She said she believed the only reason an
OEM would stay with Crystal version 8.5, would be to save money.

Regards

Rodney Warwick
The Signcraft Group

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Shallbetter [mailto:dans@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:05 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10


What I was told by Crystal is that with release 9 the product was rewritten
to conform with some new international character set, and that a lot of the
OEM's (Epicor) using the product had conformed to the new standards yet.
They also mentioned that release 10 would no longer save a report as a
version 8.5. That maybe an issue depending on what version of Vantage.

Dan Shallbetter
States Electric Mfg.


-----Original Message-----
From: Reilly, Rhonda [mailto:rreilly@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:55 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10


So what does it mean that Epicor doesn't support crystal 9 and 10? Does that
mean it won't work or does it mean that they won't help with any problems.
I would really like to go to Crystal 10 to stay current with the report
writing world. Plus I would like to upgrade crystal enterprises.

Rhonda Reilly
Information Resource Manager
Energy Cranes LLC.
985.893.1818
985.893.1879 fax




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The information I received from Epicor at a user group meeting was
that they are staying with 8.5 until Sonoma comes out. At that time
they will jump to 10, skipping 9.

Brian Stenglein
Clow Stamping Co.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Rodney Warwick <r.warwick@s...> wrote:
> A representative from Crystal Decisions / Business Objects told me
that
> there were licensing changes when Crystal version 9 was introduced,
which
> made it more expensive for OEM's. She said she believed the only
reason an
> OEM would stay with Crystal version 8.5, would be to save money.
>
> Regards
>
> Rodney Warwick
> The Signcraft Group
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Shallbetter [mailto:dans@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:05 AM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10
>
>
> What I was told by Crystal is that with release 9 the product was
rewritten
> to conform with some new international character set, and that a
lot of the
> OEM's (Epicor) using the product had conformed to the new standards
yet.
> They also mentioned that release 10 would no longer save a report
as a
> version 8.5. That maybe an issue depending on what version of
Vantage.
>
> Dan Shallbetter
> States Electric Mfg.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reilly, Rhonda [mailto:rreilly@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:55 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Crystal Reports 9 & 10
>
>
> So what does it mean that Epicor doesn't support crystal 9 and 10?
Does that
> mean it won't work or does it mean that they won't help with any
problems.
> I would really like to go to Crystal 10 to stay current with the
report
> writing world. Plus I would like to upgrade crystal enterprises.
>
> Rhonda Reilly
> Information Resource Manager
> Energy Cranes LLC.
> 985.893.1818
> 985.893.1879 fax
>
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
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