Customization for Transit Days

Hi,

For now, our biggest concern is to include weekends for transit days calcs...Below I have included the "meat" of the formulas I used for my calculations and verified manually and in Excel. If anyone wants to test themselves, just let me know if you find anything incorrect.

Karen


'//Check Need By Date lands on Sunday or Saturday
IF WEEKDAY(edv.dataView(edv.Row)("NeedByDate")) = 1 THEN
wknd = wknd + 1
Else IF WEEKDAY(edv.dataView(edv.Row)("NeedByDate")) = 7 THEN
wknd = wknd + 1

Else
wknd = wknd + 0

END If

myNumber = myNumber + wknd

edv.dataView(edv.Row)("ReqDate") = edv.dataView(edv.Row)("NeedByDate").AddDays(myNumber * -1)

'//Check Days Between lands on Sunday or Saturday
For X = 1 to myNumber
IF WEEKDAY(edv.dataView(edv.Row)("NeedByDate").AddDays(X * -1)) = 1 THEN
calcwknd = calcwknd + 1
Else IF WEEKDAY(edv.dataView(edv.Row)("NeedByDate").AddDays(X * -1)) = 7 THEN
calcwknd = calcwknd + 1
Else
calcwknd = calcwknd + 0
End If
Next X

myNumber = myNumber + calcwknd

edv.dataView(edv.Row)("ReqDate") = edv.dataView(edv.Row)("NeedByDate").AddDays(myNumber * -1)

'//Check Calculated Ship By Date lands on Sunday or Saturday
IF WEEKDAY(edv.dataView(edv.Row)("ReqDate")) = 1 THEN
endwknd = endwknd + 2
Else IF WEEKDAY(edv.dataView(edv.Row)("ReqDate")) = 7 THEN
endwknd = endwknd + 1
Else
endwknd = endwknd + 0
End If

myNumber = myNumber + endwknd

edv.dataView(edv.Row)("ReqDate") = edv.dataView(edv.Row)("NeedByDate").AddDays(myNumber * -1)

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "karen_schoenung" <kschoenung@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I used this as a sample and did create the foreign key, sub key and code to update the ship by date after updating need by date...But, now I would like to incorporate the Production? calendar in Vantage. Any ideas where to start?
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> >
> > That sounds like good advice. I'm probably going to take that advice.
> >
> > I think that I will launch the Transit Days field into the live
> > database now. Then at some later date, I can work on the
> > calendar/date math when I am no longer under pressure to get the
> > customization quickly deployed to the users.
> >
> > That way, I can take my time and consider those weekends & holidays
> > issues brought up by Charlie which I had not thought about before.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > My pleasure Lynn. Some great experienced power users out there
> > helped me (and still do) when we 1st started on Vantage and I like
> > returning the favor.
> > >
> > > Advice? - Don't get into the date math yet. (As you suggested) -
> > See if just displaying the info (and letting people do the simple
> > mental math) gives you the desired productivity boost.
> > >
> > > It is all too easy to incrementally overcustomize and wake up one
> > day to discover you have seriously impact application performance.
> > >
> > > If you reach a point where you think it really would help to do the
> > calc for the users, re-post and there is probably some code that
> > could be shared to save you time.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:33 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It works!
> > >
> > > Thank you, thank you, thank you Rob.
> > >
> > > I had never before heard of a SubTable View.
> > >
> > > Following the instructions in your email, I created the SubTable
> > > View, then I re-added a control box back onto the Order Entry
> > screen
> > > and connected it to my newly added (SubTable View) Datasource,
> > > ShipToInfo.Number01 . Then I exited Customization and went into
> > Order
> > > Entry. As soon as I opened an existing order, the value for Transit
> > > Days immediately appeared!
> > >
> > > Now I can move on to the issue to working with calandar and date
> > > math. However, even if I cannot get the date math to work
> > perfectly,
> > > the Order Entry users will be very happy that they can see the
> > > Transit Days value on the Order Entry Header screen; then at least
> > > they have a number to do their own calendar calculation to
> > determine
> > > a ShipBy date.
> > >
> > > I have been trying to get this Transit Days field to work for a
> > very,
> > > very long time. Now that I know about a SubTable View in Vantage,
> > > I'm sure that I will be using this knowledge in future
> > customizations.
> > >
> > > Thank you again.
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Lynn,
> > > > Â
> > > > Don't quit on it yet. You're on the right track.
> > > >
> > > > It is (seems more often than not unfortunately) not always
> > possible
> > > to create a DIRECT FKV from a seemingly appropriate native table to
> > > the foreign table you want to join & bind to the app.
> > > >
> > > > You have to get creative and relying on some trial and error luck
> > > as a result of the lack of documentation (and the poor environment
> > > provided that offers little error resolution guidance).
> > > >
> > > > Try creating a simple FKV from the native OrderRel table to table
> > > Customer.
> > > >
> > > > Then (from your FKV Customer) try creating a SubTable View to
> > table
> > > ShipTo.
> > > >
> > > > SubTable Views allow YOU to decide what fields to create the join
> > > through.
> > > >
> > > > Typically, you are always going to have Company as the 1st joined
> > > field but, depending upon what version you are on (and what bugs it
> > > has), it is possible company data isn't populated in the tables you
> > > are trying to connect the dots through. (Look at the tables raw via
> > a
> > > simple BAQ dump or via odbc SQL if you encounter problems.)
> > > >
> > > > I'd guess your joins would be through Company, CustID & ShipToID.
> > > >
> > > > It can be a very frustrating trial and error process. I've had to
> > > go as deep as 3 FKVs until I finally can get a SubTable to bring in
> > > the data I'm after.
> > > >
> > > > If all else fails (and it might), open the Custom Object Explorer
> > > (Adapter tab) and look at the methods and properties (as well as
> > > sample code for each) for the ShipToAdapter. Make note of the
> > > assemblies required for the adapter as you will likely have to add
> > > them to the app as Custom Assemblies (to support the adapter).
> > > >
> > > > You should find a suitable search ("Get...") method that you can
> > > build a subroutine around that will allow you to retrieve your
> > > ShipTo.Number01 value associated with each order/line/release' s
> > > Customer & ShipTo ID.
> > > >
> > > > Store it in a defined temp variable or an array (or permanently
> > > save it to an OrderRel.Number# # field).
> > > >
> > > > Then you are ready to start doing some date math.
> > > >
> > > > ...I know... (yuck!) It can be done though... It takes some
> > > persistence and in the end, you'll learn a lot more about how
> > Vantage
> > > works than you might have if it was as easy as falsely advertised.
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:45 AM
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that sums it up exactly.
> > > >
> > > > I finished the Customer Maintenance customization. And I have
> > > > already entered TransitDays data for several Ship-To locations.
> > > >
> > > > Then, I downloaded information on FKV's from the Epicor website
> > and
> > > > tried to create a FKV to the ShipTo table from the OrderHed. This
> > > is
> > > > where I am completely unsuccessful.
> > > >
> > > > Following the instructions in Answerbook # 6415MPS, I create a
> > new
> > > > custom view named "CustShipToInfo" . I select OrderHed as my
> > Parent
> > > > View Name. Then I move to Column Name. I think this is where I
> > run
> > > > into a problem. CustNum is available as a Column Name. But there
> > > > are 2 issues I that I don't know how to overcome. First,
> > ShipToNum
> > > > is not one of the available Column Names for the Parent View
> > > > OrderHed. Second, when I choose CustNum, I still need to tell the
> > > > database which ShipToNum I want and there is not a place to add a
> > > > second Column Name for the same FKV.
> > > >
> > > > The situation is the same if I select OrderDtl as the Parent View
> > > > Name.
> > > >
> > > > The situation is different when I select OrderRel as the
> > ParentView
> > > > Name. When OrderRel is the Parent, I am allowed to choose
> > ShipToNum
> > > > as my column name; however, the LikeColumnValue populates
> > > > as "ShipHead.ShipToNum ". There are 2 issues here. First, the
> > > > ShipHead table does not contain my data. My data is in the ShipTo
> > > > table. Second, I still need to tell the database which CustNum to
> > > > use with the ShipToNum.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what to do.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Lynn
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
> > <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynn,
> > > > >
> > > > > OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then
> > I
> > > > can recommend:
> > > > >
> > > > > You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit
> > > > Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like
> > > > ShipTo.Number01) .
> > > > >
> > > > > That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to
> > > > expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your
> > > > people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added
> > over
> > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add
> > > the
> > > > custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods
> > > > associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign
> > > Key
> > > > View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.
> > > > >
> > > > > That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry
> > app
> > > to
> > > > display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the
> > offset
> > > > days calculation.
> > > > >
> > > > > In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a
> > calendar
> > > > that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either
> > > > create one specifically for shipping or use your default company
> > > > calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays -
> >
> > > > stored in ProdCalDay).
> > > > >
> > > > > (We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we
> > > must
> > > > use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually
> > > maintain
> > > > a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some
> > > > point we may move that to a UD table.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll
> > need
> > > > to write some functions to use the calendar data and your
> > > > ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date
> > > > from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your
> > > > process).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I understanding your need now?
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it)
> > make
> > > > sense to you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Rob:
> > > > >
> > > > > For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the
> > > customer
> > > > > has determined the carrier and we have been using the same
> > > carrier
> > > > > for the same shipto location for years.
> > > > >
> > > > > In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same
> > Carrier
> > > > for
> > > > > all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
> > > > > case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a
> > > specific
> > > > > Shipto location.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field
> > > in
> > > > > the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different
> > carriers,
> > > > it
> > > > > would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor
> > > didn't
> > > > > build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
> > > > > carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to
> > > add
> > > > a
> > > > > separate userdefined table to store this information.
> > > > >
> > > > > And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it
> > is
> > > > more
> > > > > efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
> > > > > Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.
> > > > >
> > > > > As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the
> > > > main
> > > > > menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then
> > do
> > > a
> > > > > second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to
> > > get
> > > > > the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based
> > > upon
> > > > > the Customer's "Need By" date.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database
> > software
> > > > > which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address.
> > We
> > > > > are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in
> > > > Vantage
> > > > > that we do with our old software.
> > > > >
> > > > > But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the
> > > field
> > > > > from ShipTo to OrderHed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I appreciate your input and hints very much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynn
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
> > > <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lynn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
> > > > > customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order
> > > line
> > > > > releases? What is your data source for this info?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or
> > > ship
> > > > > via method or do you have the info in some data format from
> > your
> > > > > commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day
> > > no
> > > > > matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service
> > > transist
> > > > > times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones.
> > > Big
> > > > > LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times
> > with
> > > > > about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a
> > sheer
> > > > > guess, etc.,.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least
> > using
> > > > VB)
> > > > > once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've
> > got
> > > a
> > > > > number of customizations that do business day offset math.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data
> > > for
> > > > > the math to be done with.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > > > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I didn't think it would be possible to put a
> > > > > calculation on an Epicor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own
> > > > custom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to
> > > pass
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lynn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
> > > > > through
> > > > > >
> > > > > > your
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > customization. This will be much more advantageous because
> > > many
> > > > > of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship
> > > by
> > > > > date?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Charlie Smith
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2W Technologies LLC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
> > > > yahoogroups .com]
> > > > > On
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of Lynn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to
> > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > date as the "Need By" date.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To
> > > > entry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > labeled it "Transit Days".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and
> > add
> > > > my
> > > > > own
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code,
> > I
> > > > want
> > > > > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > automatically pull the Transit Days number
> > (ShipTo.Number01)
> > > > from
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field
> > named
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value
> > > > from
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By
> > > date
> > > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Customization?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website
> > &
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one
> > > > table
> > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > the next.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine
> > what
> > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product
> > early
> > > > > >
> > > > > > enough
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lynn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the same
date as the "Need By" date.

I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry and
labeled it "Transit Days".

On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDate) and add my own
Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01).

During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want to
automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from the
Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from the
Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date in my
new OrderHed.Date01 field.

I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.

Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
Customization?

I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am
still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table to
the next.

And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to
enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early enough
to meet the Customer's Need By Date?

I'm in Vantage 8.03.404

Lynn
You would also need to skip weekend and holidays when subtracting
transit days for this type of calculation to work.



Patrick Winter



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days



On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the same
date as the "Need By" date.

I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry and
labeled it "Transit Days".

On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDate) and add my own
Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01).

During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want to
automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from the
Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from the
Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date in my
new OrderHed.Date01 field.

I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.

Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
Customization?

I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am
still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table to
the next.

And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to
enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early enough
to meet the Customer's Need By Date?

I'm in Vantage 8.03.404

Lynn





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Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days through your
customization. This will be much more advantageous because many of the
reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.



Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship by date?



Charlie Smith

2W Technologies LLC



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynn
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days



On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the same
date as the "Need By" date.

I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry and
labeled it "Transit Days".

On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDate) and add my own
Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01).

During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want to
automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from the
Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from the
Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date in my
new OrderHed.Date01 field.

I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.

Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
Customization?

I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am
still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table to
the next.

And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to
enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early enough
to meet the Customer's Need By Date?

I'm in Vantage 8.03.404

Lynn





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I didn't think it would be possible to put a calculation on an Epicor
field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own custom
Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update the
Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.

But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to pass the
TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.

Lynn



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@...> wrote:
>
> Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days through
your
> customization. This will be much more advantageous because many of
the
> reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
>
>
>
> Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship by date?
>
>
>
> Charlie Smith
>
> 2W Technologies LLC
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Lynn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
>
>
>
> On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the same
> date as the "Need By" date.
>
> I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry
and
> labeled it "Transit Days".
>
> On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDate) and add my own
> Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01).
>
> During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want
to
> automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from
the
> Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
> OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from
the
> Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date in
my
> new OrderHed.Date01 field.
>
> I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
>
> Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> Customization?
>
> I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am
> still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table to
> the next.
>
> And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to
> enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
enough
> to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
>
> I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Thanks. I had forgotten about that.

Lynn


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Winter, Patrick" <pjw@...> wrote:
>
> You would also need to skip weekend and holidays when subtracting
> transit days for this type of calculation to work.
>
>
>
> Patrick Winter
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Lynn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:20 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
>
>
>
> On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the same
> date as the "Need By" date.
>
> I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry
and
> labeled it "Transit Days".
>
> On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDate) and add my own
> Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01).
>
> During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want
to
> automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from
the
> Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
> OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from
the
> Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date in
my
> new OrderHed.Date01 field.
>
> I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
>
> Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> Customization?
>
> I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am
> still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table to
> the next.
>
> And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to
> enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
enough
> to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
>
> I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and
> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,
> please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this
> e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this
> information by a person other than the intended recipient is
> unauthorized and may be illegal.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Lynn

How do you know the working day offset to apply between the customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order line releases? What is your data source for this info?

Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or ship via method or do you have the info in some data format from your commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day no matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service transist times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones. Big LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times with about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a sheer guess, etc.,.)

The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least using VB) once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've got a number of customizations that do business day offset math.

(No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data for the math to be done with.)

Rob

--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM











I didn't think it would be possible to put a calculation on an Epicor

field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own custom

Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update the

Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.



But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to pass the

TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.



Lynn



--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@...> wrote:

>

> Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days through

your

> customization. This will be much more advantageous because many of

the

> reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.

>

>

>

> Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship by date?

>

>

>

> Charlie Smith

>

> 2W Technologies LLC

>

>

>

> From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On

Behalf

> Of Lynn

> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM

> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com

> Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days

>

>

>

> On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the same

> date as the "Need By" date.

>

> I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry

and

> labeled it "Transit Days".

>

> On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-

> supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and add my own

> Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .

>

> During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want

to

> automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from

the

> Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named

> OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from

the

> Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date in

my

> new OrderHed.Date01 field.

>

> I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from

> ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.

>

> Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this

> Customization?

>

> I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am

> still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table to

> the next.

>

> And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to

> enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early

enough

> to meet the Customer's Need By Date?

>

> I'm in Vantage 8.03.404

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>
Hi Rob:

For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the customer
has determined the carrier and we have been using the same carrier
for the same shipto location for years.

In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same Carrier for
all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a specific
Shipto location.

Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field in
the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different carriers, it
would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor didn't
build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to add a
separate userdefined table to store this information.

And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it is more
efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.

As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the main
menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then do a
second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to get
the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based upon
the Customer's "Need By" date.

Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database software
which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address. We
are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in Vantage
that we do with our old software.

But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the field
from ShipTo to OrderHed.

I appreciate your input and hints very much.

Lynn



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> Lynn
>
> How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order line
releases? What is your data source for this info?
>
> Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or ship
via method or do you have the info in some data format from your
commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day no
matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service transist
times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones. Big
LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times with
about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a sheer
guess, etc.,.)
>
> The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least using VB)
once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've got a
number of customizations that do business day offset math.
>
> (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data for
the math to be done with.)
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
> From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn't think it would be possible to put a
calculation on an Epicor
>
> field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own custom
>
> Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update the
>
> Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
>
>
>
> But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to pass
the
>
> TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
>
>
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
through
>
> your
>
> > customization. This will be much more advantageous because many
of
>
> the
>
> > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship by
date?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Charlie Smith
>
> >
>
> > 2W Technologies LLC
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com]
On
>
> Behalf
>
> > Of Lynn
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the
same
>
> > date as the "Need By" date.
>
> >
>
> > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry
>
> and
>
> > labeled it "Transit Days".
>
> >
>
> > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
>
> > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and add my
own
>
> > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
>
> >
>
> > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want
>
> to
>
> > automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from
>
> the
>
> > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
>
> > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from
>
> the
>
> > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date
in
>
> my
>
> > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
>
> >
>
> > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
>
> > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
>
> >
>
> > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
>
> > Customization?
>
> >
>
> > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am
>
> > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table
to
>
> > the next.
>
> >
>
> > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to
>
> > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
>
> enough
>
> > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
>
> >
>
> > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
>
> >
>
> > Lynn
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
Lynn,

OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then I can recommend:

You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like ShipTo.Number01).

That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added over time.

Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add the custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign Key View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.

That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry app to display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the offset days calculation.

In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a calendar that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either create one specifically for shipping or use your default company calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays - stored in ProdCalDay).

(We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we must use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually maintain a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some point we may move that to a UD table.)

Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll need to write some functions to use the calendar data and your ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your process).


Am I understanding your need now?

If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it) make sense to you?

Rob

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:

From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM






Hi Rob:

For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the customer
has determined the carrier and we have been using the same carrier
for the same shipto location for years.

In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same Carrier for
all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a specific
Shipto location.

Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field in
the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different carriers, it
would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor didn't
build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to add a
separate userdefined table to store this information.

And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it is more
efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.

As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the main
menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then do a
second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to get
the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based upon
the Customer's "Need By" date.

Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database software
which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address. We
are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in Vantage
that we do with our old software.

But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the field
from ShipTo to OrderHed.

I appreciate your input and hints very much.

Lynn

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Lynn
>
> How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order line
releases? What is your data source for this info?
>
> Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or ship
via method or do you have the info in some data format from your
commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day no
matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service transist
times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones. Big
LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times with
about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a sheer
guess, etc.,.)
>
> The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least using VB)
once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've got a
number of customizations that do business day offset math.
>
> (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data for
the math to be done with.)
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I didn't think it would be possible to put a
calculation on an Epicor
>
> field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own custom
>
> Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update the
>
> Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
>
>
>
> But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to pass
the
>
> TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
>
>
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
through
>
> your
>
> > customization. This will be much more advantageous because many
of
>
> the
>
> > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship by
date?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Charlie Smith
>
> >
>
> > 2W Technologies LLC
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@ yahoogroups .com]
On
>
> Behalf
>
> > Of Lynn
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
>
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the
same
>
> > date as the "Need By" date.
>
> >
>
> > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To entry
>
> and
>
> > labeled it "Transit Days".
>
> >
>
> > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
>
> > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and add my
own
>
> > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
>
> >
>
> > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I want
>
> to
>
> > automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01) from
>
> the
>
> > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
>
> > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value from
>
> the
>
> > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date
in
>
> my
>
> > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
>
> >
>
> > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
>
> > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
>
> >
>
> > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
>
> > Customization?
>
> >
>
> > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I am
>
> > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one table
to
>
> > the next.
>
> >
>
> > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what to
>
> > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
>
> enough
>
> > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
>
> >
>
> > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
>
> >
>
> > Lynn
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
Yes, that sums it up exactly.

I finished the Customer Maintenance customization. And I have
already entered TransitDays data for several Ship-To locations.

Then, I downloaded information on FKV's from the Epicor website and
tried to create a FKV to the ShipTo table from the OrderHed. This is
where I am completely unsuccessful.

Following the instructions in Answerbook # 6415MPS, I create a new
custom view named "CustShipToInfo". I select OrderHed as my Parent
View Name. Then I move to Column Name. I think this is where I run
into a problem. CustNum is available as a Column Name. But there
are 2 issues I that I don't know how to overcome. First, ShipToNum
is not one of the available Column Names for the Parent View
OrderHed. Second, when I choose CustNum, I still need to tell the
database which ShipToNum I want and there is not a place to add a
second Column Name for the same FKV.

The situation is the same if I select OrderDtl as the Parent View
Name.

The situation is different when I select OrderRel as the ParentView
Name. When OrderRel is the Parent, I am allowed to choose ShipToNum
as my column name; however, the LikeColumnValue populates
as "ShipHead.ShipToNum". There are 2 issues here. First, the
ShipHead table does not contain my data. My data is in the ShipTo
table. Second, I still need to tell the database which CustNum to
use with the ShipToNum.

I don't know what to do.

Thanks.

Lynn

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> Lynn,
>
> OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then I
can recommend:
>
> You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit
Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like
ShipTo.Number01).
>
> That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to
expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your
people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added over
time.
>
> Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add the
custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods
associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign Key
View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.
>
> That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry app to
display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the offset
days calculation.
>
> In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a calendar
that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either
create one specifically for shipping or use your default company
calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays -
stored in ProdCalDay).
>
> (We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we must
use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually maintain
a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some
point we may move that to a UD table.)
>
> Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll need
to write some functions to use the calendar data and your
ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date
from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your
process).
>
>
> Am I understanding your need now?
>
> If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it) make
sense to you?
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Rob:
>
> For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the customer
> has determined the carrier and we have been using the same carrier
> for the same shipto location for years.
>
> In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same Carrier
for
> all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
> case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a specific
> Shipto location.
>
> Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field in
> the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different carriers,
it
> would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor didn't
> build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
> carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to add
a
> separate userdefined table to store this information.
>
> And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it is
more
> efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
> Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.
>
> As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the
main
> menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then do a
> second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to get
> the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based upon
> the Customer's "Need By" date.
>
> Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database software
> which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address. We
> are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in
Vantage
> that we do with our old software.
>
> But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the field
> from ShipTo to OrderHed.
>
> I appreciate your input and hints very much.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
> customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order line
> releases? What is your data source for this info?
> >
> > Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or ship
> via method or do you have the info in some data format from your
> commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day no
> matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service transist
> times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones. Big
> LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times with
> about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a sheer
> guess, etc.,.)
> >
> > The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least using
VB)
> once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've got a
> number of customizations that do business day offset math.
> >
> > (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data for
> the math to be done with.)
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't think it would be possible to put a
> calculation on an Epicor
> >
> > field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own
custom
> >
> > Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update the
> >
> > Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
> >
> >
> >
> > But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to pass
> the
> >
> > TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
> through
> >
> > your
> >
> > > customization. This will be much more advantageous because many
> of
> >
> > the
> >
> > > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship by
> date?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Charlie Smith
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 2W Technologies LLC
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
yahoogroups .com]
> On
> >
> > Behalf
> >
> > > Of Lynn
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> >
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> >
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the
> same
> >
> > > date as the "Need By" date.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To
entry
> >
> > and
> >
> > > labeled it "Transit Days".
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> >
> > > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and add
my
> own
> >
> > > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
> >
> > >
> >
> > > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I
want
> >
> > to
> >
> > > automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01)
from
> >
> > the
> >
> > > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
> >
> > > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value
from
> >
> > the
> >
> > > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date
> in
> >
> > my
> >
> > > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> >
> > > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> >
> > > Customization?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I
am
> >
> > > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one
table
> to
> >
> > > the next.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what
to
> >
> > > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
> >
> > enough
> >
> > > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Lynn
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > >
> >
>
Lynn,
Â
Don't quit on it yet. You're on the right track.

It is (seems more often than not unfortunately) not always possible to create a DIRECT FKV from a seemingly appropriate native table to the foreign table you want to join & bind to the app.

You have to get creative and relying on some trial and error luck as a result of the lack of documentation (and the poor environment provided that offers little error resolution guidance).

Try creating a simple FKV from the native OrderRel table to table Customer.

Then (from your FKV Customer) try creating a SubTable View to table ShipTo.

SubTable Views allow YOU to decide what fields to create the join through.

Typically, you are always going to have Company as the 1st joined field but, depending upon what version you are on (and what bugs it has), it is possible company data isn't populated in the tables you are trying to connect the dots through. (Look at the tables raw via a simple BAQ dump or via odbc SQL if you encounter problems.)

I'd guess your joins would be through Company, CustID & ShipToID.

It can be a very frustrating trial and error process. I've had to go as deep as 3 FKVs until I finally can get a SubTable to bring in the data I'm after.

If all else fails (and it might), open the Custom Object Explorer (Adapter tab) and look at the methods and properties (as well as sample code for each) for the ShipToAdapter. Make note of the assemblies required for the adapter as you will likely have to add them to the app as Custom Assemblies (to support the adapter).

You should find a suitable search ("Get...") method that you can build a subroutine around that will allow you to retrieve your ShipTo.Number01 value associated with each order/line/release's Customer & ShipTo ID.

Store it in a defined temp variable or an array (or permanently save it to an OrderRel.Number## field).

Then you are ready to start doing some date math.

...I know... (yuck!) It can be done though... It takes some persistence and in the end, you'll learn a lot more about how Vantage works than you might have if it was as easy as falsely advertised.

Rob



--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:

From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:45 AM

Yes, that sums it up exactly.

I finished the Customer Maintenance customization. And I have
already entered TransitDays data for several Ship-To locations.

Then, I downloaded information on FKV's from the Epicor website and
tried to create a FKV to the ShipTo table from the OrderHed. This is
where I am completely unsuccessful.

Following the instructions in Answerbook # 6415MPS, I create a new
custom view named "CustShipToInfo" . I select OrderHed as my Parent
View Name. Then I move to Column Name. I think this is where I run
into a problem. CustNum is available as a Column Name. But there
are 2 issues I that I don't know how to overcome. First, ShipToNum
is not one of the available Column Names for the Parent View
OrderHed. Second, when I choose CustNum, I still need to tell the
database which ShipToNum I want and there is not a place to add a
second Column Name for the same FKV.

The situation is the same if I select OrderDtl as the Parent View
Name.

The situation is different when I select OrderRel as the ParentView
Name. When OrderRel is the Parent, I am allowed to choose ShipToNum
as my column name; however, the LikeColumnValue populates
as "ShipHead.ShipToNum ". There are 2 issues here. First, the
ShipHead table does not contain my data. My data is in the ShipTo
table. Second, I still need to tell the database which CustNum to
use with the ShipToNum.

I don't know what to do.

Thanks.

Lynn

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Lynn,
>
> OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then I
can recommend:
>
> You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit
Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like
ShipTo.Number01) .
>
> That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to
expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your
people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added over
time.
>
> Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add the
custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods
associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign Key
View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.
>
> That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry app to
display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the offset
days calculation.
>
> In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a calendar
that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either
create one specifically for shipping or use your default company
calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays -
stored in ProdCalDay).
>
> (We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we must
use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually maintain
a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some
point we may move that to a UD table.)
>
> Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll need
to write some functions to use the calendar data and your
ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date
from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your
process).
>
>
> Am I understanding your need now?
>
> If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it) make
sense to you?
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Rob:
>
> For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the customer
> has determined the carrier and we have been using the same carrier
> for the same shipto location for years.
>
> In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same Carrier
for
> all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
> case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a specific
> Shipto location.
>
> Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field in
> the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different carriers,
it
> would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor didn't
> build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
> carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to add
a
> separate userdefined table to store this information.
>
> And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it is
more
> efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
> Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.
>
> As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the
main
> menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then do a
> second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to get
> the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based upon
> the Customer's "Need By" date.
>
> Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database software
> which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address. We
> are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in
Vantage
> that we do with our old software.
>
> But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the field
> from ShipTo to OrderHed.
>
> I appreciate your input and hints very much.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
> customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order line
> releases? What is your data source for this info?
> >
> > Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or ship
> via method or do you have the info in some data format from your
> commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day no
> matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service transist
> times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones. Big
> LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times with
> about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a sheer
> guess, etc.,.)
> >
> > The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least using
VB)
> once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've got a
> number of customizations that do business day offset math.
> >
> > (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data for
> the math to be done with.)
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't think it would be possible to put a
> calculation on an Epicor
> >
> > field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own
custom
> >
> > Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update the
> >
> > Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
> >
> >
> >
> > But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to pass
> the
> >
> > TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
> through
> >
> > your
> >
> > > customization. This will be much more advantageous because many
> of
> >
> > the
> >
> > > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship by
> date?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Charlie Smith
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 2W Technologies LLC
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
yahoogroups .com]
> On
> >
> > Behalf
> >
> > > Of Lynn
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> >
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> >
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to the
> same
> >
> > > date as the "Need By" date.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To
entry
> >
> > and
> >
> > > labeled it "Transit Days".
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> >
> > > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and add
my
> own
> >
> > > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
> >
> > >
> >
> > > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I
want
> >
> > to
> >
> > > automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01)
from
> >
> > the
> >
> > > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
> >
> > > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value
from
> >
> > the
> >
> > > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By date
> in
> >
> > my
> >
> > > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> >
> > > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> >
> > > Customization?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website & I
am
> >
> > > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one
table
> to
> >
> > > the next.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what
to
> >
> > > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
> >
> > enough
> >
> > > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Lynn
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > >
> >
>
It works!

Thank you, thank you, thank you Rob.

I had never before heard of a SubTable View.

Following the instructions in your email, I created the SubTable
View, then I re-added a control box back onto the Order Entry screen
and connected it to my newly added (SubTable View) Datasource,
ShipToInfo.Number01. Then I exited Customization and went into Order
Entry. As soon as I opened an existing order, the value for Transit
Days immediately appeared!

Now I can move on to the issue to working with calandar and date
math. However, even if I cannot get the date math to work perfectly,
the Order Entry users will be very happy that they can see the
Transit Days value on the Order Entry Header screen; then at least
they have a number to do their own calendar calculation to determine
a ShipBy date.

I have been trying to get this Transit Days field to work for a very,
very long time. Now that I know about a SubTable View in Vantage,
I'm sure that I will be using this knowledge in future customizations.

Thank you again.

Lynn


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> Lynn,
> Â
> Don't quit on it yet. You're on the right track.
>
> It is (seems more often than not unfortunately) not always possible
to create a DIRECT FKV from a seemingly appropriate native table to
the foreign table you want to join & bind to the app.
>
> You have to get creative and relying on some trial and error luck
as a result of the lack of documentation (and the poor environment
provided that offers little error resolution guidance).
>
> Try creating a simple FKV from the native OrderRel table to table
Customer.
>
> Then (from your FKV Customer) try creating a SubTable View to table
ShipTo.
>
> SubTable Views allow YOU to decide what fields to create the join
through.
>
> Typically, you are always going to have Company as the 1st joined
field but, depending upon what version you are on (and what bugs it
has), it is possible company data isn't populated in the tables you
are trying to connect the dots through. (Look at the tables raw via a
simple BAQ dump or via odbc SQL if you encounter problems.)
>
> I'd guess your joins would be through Company, CustID & ShipToID.
>
> It can be a very frustrating trial and error process. I've had to
go as deep as 3 FKVs until I finally can get a SubTable to bring in
the data I'm after.
>
> If all else fails (and it might), open the Custom Object Explorer
(Adapter tab) and look at the methods and properties (as well as
sample code for each) for the ShipToAdapter. Make note of the
assemblies required for the adapter as you will likely have to add
them to the app as Custom Assemblies (to support the adapter).
>
> You should find a suitable search ("Get...") method that you can
build a subroutine around that will allow you to retrieve your
ShipTo.Number01 value associated with each order/line/release's
Customer & ShipTo ID.
>
> Store it in a defined temp variable or an array (or permanently
save it to an OrderRel.Number## field).
>
> Then you are ready to start doing some date math.
>
> ...I know... (yuck!) It can be done though... It takes some
persistence and in the end, you'll learn a lot more about how Vantage
works than you might have if it was as easy as falsely advertised.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:45 AM
>
> Yes, that sums it up exactly.
>
> I finished the Customer Maintenance customization. And I have
> already entered TransitDays data for several Ship-To locations.
>
> Then, I downloaded information on FKV's from the Epicor website and
> tried to create a FKV to the ShipTo table from the OrderHed. This
is
> where I am completely unsuccessful.
>
> Following the instructions in Answerbook # 6415MPS, I create a new
> custom view named "CustShipToInfo" . I select OrderHed as my Parent
> View Name. Then I move to Column Name. I think this is where I run
> into a problem. CustNum is available as a Column Name. But there
> are 2 issues I that I don't know how to overcome. First, ShipToNum
> is not one of the available Column Names for the Parent View
> OrderHed. Second, when I choose CustNum, I still need to tell the
> database which ShipToNum I want and there is not a place to add a
> second Column Name for the same FKV.
>
> The situation is the same if I select OrderDtl as the Parent View
> Name.
>
> The situation is different when I select OrderRel as the ParentView
> Name. When OrderRel is the Parent, I am allowed to choose ShipToNum
> as my column name; however, the LikeColumnValue populates
> as "ShipHead.ShipToNum ". There are 2 issues here. First, the
> ShipHead table does not contain my data. My data is in the ShipTo
> table. Second, I still need to tell the database which CustNum to
> use with the ShipToNum.
>
> I don't know what to do.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lynn,
> >
> > OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then I
> can recommend:
> >
> > You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit
> Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like
> ShipTo.Number01) .
> >
> > That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to
> expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your
> people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added over
> time.
> >
> > Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add
the
> custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods
> associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign
Key
> View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.
> >
> > That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry app
to
> display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the offset
> days calculation.
> >
> > In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a calendar
> that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either
> create one specifically for shipping or use your default company
> calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays -
> stored in ProdCalDay).
> >
> > (We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we
must
> use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually
maintain
> a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some
> point we may move that to a UD table.)
> >
> > Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll need
> to write some functions to use the calendar data and your
> ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date
> from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your
> process).
> >
> >
> > Am I understanding your need now?
> >
> > If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it) make
> sense to you?
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Rob:
> >
> > For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the
customer
> > has determined the carrier and we have been using the same
carrier
> > for the same shipto location for years.
> >
> > In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same Carrier
> for
> > all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
> > case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a
specific
> > Shipto location.
> >
> > Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field
in
> > the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different carriers,
> it
> > would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor
didn't
> > build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
> > carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to
add
> a
> > separate userdefined table to store this information.
> >
> > And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it is
> more
> > efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
> > Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.
> >
> > As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the
> main
> > menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then do
a
> > second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to
get
> > the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based
upon
> > the Customer's "Need By" date.
> >
> > Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database software
> > which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address. We
> > are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in
> Vantage
> > that we do with our old software.
> >
> > But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the
field
> > from ShipTo to OrderHed.
> >
> > I appreciate your input and hints very much.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
<robertb_versa@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > > How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
> > customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order
line
> > releases? What is your data source for this info?
> > >
> > > Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or
ship
> > via method or do you have the info in some data format from your
> > commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day
no
> > matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service
transist
> > times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones.
Big
> > LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times with
> > about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a sheer
> > guess, etc.,.)
> > >
> > > The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least using
> VB)
> > once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've got
a
> > number of customizations that do business day offset math.
> > >
> > > (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data
for
> > the math to be done with.)
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't think it would be possible to put a
> > calculation on an Epicor
> > >
> > > field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own
> custom
> > >
> > > Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update
the
> > >
> > > Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to
pass
> > the
> > >
> > > TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
> > through
> > >
> > > your
> > >
> > > > customization. This will be much more advantageous because
many
> > of
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship
by
> > date?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Charlie Smith
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > 2W Technologies LLC
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
> yahoogroups .com]
> > On
> > >
> > > Behalf
> > >
> > > > Of Lynn
> > >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> > >
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > >
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to
the
> > same
> > >
> > > > date as the "Need By" date.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To
> entry
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > labeled it "Transit Days".
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> > >
> > > > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and add
> my
> > own
> > >
> > > > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I
> want
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01)
> from
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
> > >
> > > > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value
> from
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By
date
> > in
> > >
> > > my
> > >
> > > > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> > >
> > > > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> > >
> > > > Customization?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website &
I
> am
> > >
> > > > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one
> table
> > to
> > >
> > > > the next.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what
> to
> > >
> > > > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
> > >
> > > enough
> > >
> > > > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Lynn
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
My pleasure Lynn. Some great experienced power users out there helped me (and still do) when we 1st started on Vantage and I like returning the favor.

Advice? - Don't get into the date math yet. (As you suggested) - See if just displaying the info (and letting people do the simple mental math) gives you the desired productivity boost.

It is all too easy to incrementally overcustomize and wake up one day to discover you have seriously impact application performance.

If you reach a point where you think it really would help to do the calc for the users, re-post and there is probably some code that could be shared to save you time.

Rob
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:

From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:33 PM






It works!

Thank you, thank you, thank you Rob.

I had never before heard of a SubTable View.

Following the instructions in your email, I created the SubTable
View, then I re-added a control box back onto the Order Entry screen
and connected it to my newly added (SubTable View) Datasource,
ShipToInfo.Number01 . Then I exited Customization and went into Order
Entry. As soon as I opened an existing order, the value for Transit
Days immediately appeared!

Now I can move on to the issue to working with calandar and date
math. However, even if I cannot get the date math to work perfectly,
the Order Entry users will be very happy that they can see the
Transit Days value on the Order Entry Header screen; then at least
they have a number to do their own calendar calculation to determine
a ShipBy date.

I have been trying to get this Transit Days field to work for a very,
very long time. Now that I know about a SubTable View in Vantage,
I'm sure that I will be using this knowledge in future customizations.

Thank you again.

Lynn

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Lynn,
> Â
> Don't quit on it yet. You're on the right track.
>
> It is (seems more often than not unfortunately) not always possible
to create a DIRECT FKV from a seemingly appropriate native table to
the foreign table you want to join & bind to the app.
>
> You have to get creative and relying on some trial and error luck
as a result of the lack of documentation (and the poor environment
provided that offers little error resolution guidance).
>
> Try creating a simple FKV from the native OrderRel table to table
Customer.
>
> Then (from your FKV Customer) try creating a SubTable View to table
ShipTo.
>
> SubTable Views allow YOU to decide what fields to create the join
through.
>
> Typically, you are always going to have Company as the 1st joined
field but, depending upon what version you are on (and what bugs it
has), it is possible company data isn't populated in the tables you
are trying to connect the dots through. (Look at the tables raw via a
simple BAQ dump or via odbc SQL if you encounter problems.)
>
> I'd guess your joins would be through Company, CustID & ShipToID.
>
> It can be a very frustrating trial and error process. I've had to
go as deep as 3 FKVs until I finally can get a SubTable to bring in
the data I'm after.
>
> If all else fails (and it might), open the Custom Object Explorer
(Adapter tab) and look at the methods and properties (as well as
sample code for each) for the ShipToAdapter. Make note of the
assemblies required for the adapter as you will likely have to add
them to the app as Custom Assemblies (to support the adapter).
>
> You should find a suitable search ("Get...") method that you can
build a subroutine around that will allow you to retrieve your
ShipTo.Number01 value associated with each order/line/release' s
Customer & ShipTo ID.
>
> Store it in a defined temp variable or an array (or permanently
save it to an OrderRel.Number# # field).
>
> Then you are ready to start doing some date math.
>
> ...I know... (yuck!) It can be done though... It takes some
persistence and in the end, you'll learn a lot more about how Vantage
works than you might have if it was as easy as falsely advertised.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:45 AM
>
> Yes, that sums it up exactly.
>
> I finished the Customer Maintenance customization. And I have
> already entered TransitDays data for several Ship-To locations.
>
> Then, I downloaded information on FKV's from the Epicor website and
> tried to create a FKV to the ShipTo table from the OrderHed. This
is
> where I am completely unsuccessful.
>
> Following the instructions in Answerbook # 6415MPS, I create a new
> custom view named "CustShipToInfo" . I select OrderHed as my Parent
> View Name. Then I move to Column Name. I think this is where I run
> into a problem. CustNum is available as a Column Name. But there
> are 2 issues I that I don't know how to overcome. First, ShipToNum
> is not one of the available Column Names for the Parent View
> OrderHed. Second, when I choose CustNum, I still need to tell the
> database which ShipToNum I want and there is not a place to add a
> second Column Name for the same FKV.
>
> The situation is the same if I select OrderDtl as the Parent View
> Name.
>
> The situation is different when I select OrderRel as the ParentView
> Name. When OrderRel is the Parent, I am allowed to choose ShipToNum
> as my column name; however, the LikeColumnValue populates
> as "ShipHead.ShipToNum ". There are 2 issues here. First, the
> ShipHead table does not contain my data. My data is in the ShipTo
> table. Second, I still need to tell the database which CustNum to
> use with the ShipToNum.
>
> I don't know what to do.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lynn,
> >
> > OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then I
> can recommend:
> >
> > You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit
> Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like
> ShipTo.Number01) .
> >
> > That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to
> expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your
> people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added over
> time.
> >
> > Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add
the
> custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods
> associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign
Key
> View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.
> >
> > That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry app
to
> display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the offset
> days calculation.
> >
> > In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a calendar
> that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either
> create one specifically for shipping or use your default company
> calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays -
> stored in ProdCalDay).
> >
> > (We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we
must
> use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually
maintain
> a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some
> point we may move that to a UD table.)
> >
> > Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll need
> to write some functions to use the calendar data and your
> ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date
> from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your
> process).
> >
> >
> > Am I understanding your need now?
> >
> > If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it) make
> sense to you?
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Rob:
> >
> > For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the
customer
> > has determined the carrier and we have been using the same
carrier
> > for the same shipto location for years.
> >
> > In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same Carrier
> for
> > all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
> > case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a
specific
> > Shipto location.
> >
> > Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field
in
> > the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different carriers,
> it
> > would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor
didn't
> > build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
> > carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to
add
> a
> > separate userdefined table to store this information.
> >
> > And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it is
> more
> > efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
> > Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.
> >
> > As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the
> main
> > menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then do
a
> > second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to
get
> > the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based
upon
> > the Customer's "Need By" date.
> >
> > Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database software
> > which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address. We
> > are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in
> Vantage
> > that we do with our old software.
> >
> > But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the
field
> > from ShipTo to OrderHed.
> >
> > I appreciate your input and hints very much.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
<robertb_versa@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > > How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
> > customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order
line
> > releases? What is your data source for this info?
> > >
> > > Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or
ship
> > via method or do you have the info in some data format from your
> > commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day
no
> > matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service
transist
> > times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones.
Big
> > LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times with
> > about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a sheer
> > guess, etc.,.)
> > >
> > > The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least using
> VB)
> > once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've got
a
> > number of customizations that do business day offset math.
> > >
> > > (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data
for
> > the math to be done with.)
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't think it would be possible to put a
> > calculation on an Epicor
> > >
> > > field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own
> custom
> > >
> > > Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update
the
> > >
> > > Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to
pass
> > the
> > >
> > > TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
> > through
> > >
> > > your
> > >
> > > > customization. This will be much more advantageous because
many
> > of
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship
by
> > date?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Charlie Smith
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > 2W Technologies LLC
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
> yahoogroups .com]
> > On
> > >
> > > Behalf
> > >
> > > > Of Lynn
> > >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> > >
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > >
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to
the
> > same
> > >
> > > > date as the "Need By" date.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To
> entry
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > labeled it "Transit Days".
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> > >
> > > > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and add
> my
> > own
> > >
> > > > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code, I
> want
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > automatically pull the Transit Days number (ShipTo.Number01)
> from
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field named
> > >
> > > > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value
> from
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By
date
> > in
> > >
> > > my
> > >
> > > > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> > >
> > > > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> > >
> > > > Customization?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website &
I
> am
> > >
> > > > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one
> table
> > to
> > >
> > > > the next.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine what
> to
> > >
> > > > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product early
> > >
> > > enough
> > >
> > > > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Lynn
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
That sounds like good advice. I'm probably going to take that advice.

I think that I will launch the Transit Days field into the live
database now. Then at some later date, I can work on the
calendar/date math when I am no longer under pressure to get the
customization quickly deployed to the users.

That way, I can take my time and consider those weekends & holidays
issues brought up by Charlie which I had not thought about before.

Lynn



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> My pleasure Lynn. Some great experienced power users out there
helped me (and still do) when we 1st started on Vantage and I like
returning the favor.
>
> Advice? - Don't get into the date math yet. (As you suggested) -
See if just displaying the info (and letting people do the simple
mental math) gives you the desired productivity boost.
>
> It is all too easy to incrementally overcustomize and wake up one
day to discover you have seriously impact application performance.
>
> If you reach a point where you think it really would help to do the
calc for the users, re-post and there is probably some code that
could be shared to save you time.
>
> Rob
> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:33 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It works!
>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you Rob.
>
> I had never before heard of a SubTable View.
>
> Following the instructions in your email, I created the SubTable
> View, then I re-added a control box back onto the Order Entry
screen
> and connected it to my newly added (SubTable View) Datasource,
> ShipToInfo.Number01 . Then I exited Customization and went into
Order
> Entry. As soon as I opened an existing order, the value for Transit
> Days immediately appeared!
>
> Now I can move on to the issue to working with calandar and date
> math. However, even if I cannot get the date math to work
perfectly,
> the Order Entry users will be very happy that they can see the
> Transit Days value on the Order Entry Header screen; then at least
> they have a number to do their own calendar calculation to
determine
> a ShipBy date.
>
> I have been trying to get this Transit Days field to work for a
very,
> very long time. Now that I know about a SubTable View in Vantage,
> I'm sure that I will be using this knowledge in future
customizations.
>
> Thank you again.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lynn,
> > Â
> > Don't quit on it yet. You're on the right track.
> >
> > It is (seems more often than not unfortunately) not always
possible
> to create a DIRECT FKV from a seemingly appropriate native table to
> the foreign table you want to join & bind to the app.
> >
> > You have to get creative and relying on some trial and error luck
> as a result of the lack of documentation (and the poor environment
> provided that offers little error resolution guidance).
> >
> > Try creating a simple FKV from the native OrderRel table to table
> Customer.
> >
> > Then (from your FKV Customer) try creating a SubTable View to
table
> ShipTo.
> >
> > SubTable Views allow YOU to decide what fields to create the join
> through.
> >
> > Typically, you are always going to have Company as the 1st joined
> field but, depending upon what version you are on (and what bugs it
> has), it is possible company data isn't populated in the tables you
> are trying to connect the dots through. (Look at the tables raw via
a
> simple BAQ dump or via odbc SQL if you encounter problems.)
> >
> > I'd guess your joins would be through Company, CustID & ShipToID.
> >
> > It can be a very frustrating trial and error process. I've had to
> go as deep as 3 FKVs until I finally can get a SubTable to bring in
> the data I'm after.
> >
> > If all else fails (and it might), open the Custom Object Explorer
> (Adapter tab) and look at the methods and properties (as well as
> sample code for each) for the ShipToAdapter. Make note of the
> assemblies required for the adapter as you will likely have to add
> them to the app as Custom Assemblies (to support the adapter).
> >
> > You should find a suitable search ("Get...") method that you can
> build a subroutine around that will allow you to retrieve your
> ShipTo.Number01 value associated with each order/line/release' s
> Customer & ShipTo ID.
> >
> > Store it in a defined temp variable or an array (or permanently
> save it to an OrderRel.Number# # field).
> >
> > Then you are ready to start doing some date math.
> >
> > ...I know... (yuck!) It can be done though... It takes some
> persistence and in the end, you'll learn a lot more about how
Vantage
> works than you might have if it was as easy as falsely advertised.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:45 AM
> >
> > Yes, that sums it up exactly.
> >
> > I finished the Customer Maintenance customization. And I have
> > already entered TransitDays data for several Ship-To locations.
> >
> > Then, I downloaded information on FKV's from the Epicor website
and
> > tried to create a FKV to the ShipTo table from the OrderHed. This
> is
> > where I am completely unsuccessful.
> >
> > Following the instructions in Answerbook # 6415MPS, I create a
new
> > custom view named "CustShipToInfo" . I select OrderHed as my
Parent
> > View Name. Then I move to Column Name. I think this is where I
run
> > into a problem. CustNum is available as a Column Name. But there
> > are 2 issues I that I don't know how to overcome. First,
ShipToNum
> > is not one of the available Column Names for the Parent View
> > OrderHed. Second, when I choose CustNum, I still need to tell the
> > database which ShipToNum I want and there is not a place to add a
> > second Column Name for the same FKV.
> >
> > The situation is the same if I select OrderDtl as the Parent View
> > Name.
> >
> > The situation is different when I select OrderRel as the
ParentView
> > Name. When OrderRel is the Parent, I am allowed to choose
ShipToNum
> > as my column name; however, the LikeColumnValue populates
> > as "ShipHead.ShipToNum ". There are 2 issues here. First, the
> > ShipHead table does not contain my data. My data is in the ShipTo
> > table. Second, I still need to tell the database which CustNum to
> > use with the ShipToNum.
> >
> > I don't know what to do.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
<robertb_versa@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Lynn,
> > >
> > > OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then
I
> > can recommend:
> > >
> > > You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit
> > Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like
> > ShipTo.Number01) .
> > >
> > > That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to
> > expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your
> > people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added
over
> > time.
> > >
> > > Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add
> the
> > custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods
> > associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign
> Key
> > View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.
> > >
> > > That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry
app
> to
> > display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the
offset
> > days calculation.
> > >
> > > In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a
calendar
> > that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either
> > create one specifically for shipping or use your default company
> > calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays -

> > stored in ProdCalDay).
> > >
> > > (We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we
> must
> > use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually
> maintain
> > a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some
> > point we may move that to a UD table.)
> > >
> > > Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll
need
> > to write some functions to use the calendar data and your
> > ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date
> > from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your
> > process).
> > >
> > >
> > > Am I understanding your need now?
> > >
> > > If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it)
make
> > sense to you?
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Rob:
> > >
> > > For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the
> customer
> > > has determined the carrier and we have been using the same
> carrier
> > > for the same shipto location for years.
> > >
> > > In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same
Carrier
> > for
> > > all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
> > > case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a
> specific
> > > Shipto location.
> > >
> > > Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field
> in
> > > the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different
carriers,
> > it
> > > would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor
> didn't
> > > build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
> > > carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to
> add
> > a
> > > separate userdefined table to store this information.
> > >
> > > And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it
is
> > more
> > > efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
> > > Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.
> > >
> > > As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the
> > main
> > > menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then
do
> a
> > > second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to
> get
> > > the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based
> upon
> > > the Customer's "Need By" date.
> > >
> > > Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database
software
> > > which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address.
We
> > > are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in
> > Vantage
> > > that we do with our old software.
> > >
> > > But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the
> field
> > > from ShipTo to OrderHed.
> > >
> > > I appreciate your input and hints very much.
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
> <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Lynn
> > > >
> > > > How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
> > > customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order
> line
> > > releases? What is your data source for this info?
> > > >
> > > > Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or
> ship
> > > via method or do you have the info in some data format from
your
> > > commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day
> no
> > > matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service
> transist
> > > times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones.
> Big
> > > LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times
with
> > > about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a
sheer
> > > guess, etc.,.)
> > > >
> > > > The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least
using
> > VB)
> > > once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've
got
> a
> > > number of customizations that do business day offset math.
> > > >
> > > > (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data
> for
> > > the math to be done with.)
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I didn't think it would be possible to put a
> > > calculation on an Epicor
> > > >
> > > > field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own
> > custom
> > > >
> > > > Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update
> the
> > > >
> > > > Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to
> pass
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lynn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
> > > through
> > > >
> > > > your
> > > >
> > > > > customization. This will be much more advantageous because
> many
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship
> by
> > > date?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Charlie Smith
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 2W Technologies LLC
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
> > yahoogroups .com]
> > > On
> > > >
> > > > Behalf
> > > >
> > > > > Of Lynn
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> > > >
> > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > >
> > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to
> the
> > > same
> > > >
> > > > > date as the "Need By" date.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To
> > entry
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > > labeled it "Transit Days".
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> > > >
> > > > > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and
add
> > my
> > > own
> > > >
> > > > > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code,
I
> > want
> > > >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > automatically pull the Transit Days number
(ShipTo.Number01)
> > from
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field
named
> > > >
> > > > > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value
> > from
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By
> date
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > my
> > > >
> > > > > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> > > >
> > > > > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> > > >
> > > > > Customization?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website
&
> I
> > am
> > > >
> > > > > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one
> > table
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > the next.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine
what
> > to
> > > >
> > > > > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product
early
> > > >
> > > > enough
> > > >
> > > > > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Lynn
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Hi,

I used this as a sample and did create the foreign key, sub key and code to update the ship by date after updating need by date...But, now I would like to incorporate the Production? calendar in Vantage. Any ideas where to start?

Thanks,
Karen

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <lynn.khalife@...> wrote:
>
> That sounds like good advice. I'm probably going to take that advice.
>
> I think that I will launch the Transit Days field into the live
> database now. Then at some later date, I can work on the
> calendar/date math when I am no longer under pressure to get the
> customization quickly deployed to the users.
>
> That way, I can take my time and consider those weekends & holidays
> issues brought up by Charlie which I had not thought about before.
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@>
> wrote:
> >
> > My pleasure Lynn. Some great experienced power users out there
> helped me (and still do) when we 1st started on Vantage and I like
> returning the favor.
> >
> > Advice? - Don't get into the date math yet. (As you suggested) -
> See if just displaying the info (and letting people do the simple
> mental math) gives you the desired productivity boost.
> >
> > It is all too easy to incrementally overcustomize and wake up one
> day to discover you have seriously impact application performance.
> >
> > If you reach a point where you think it really would help to do the
> calc for the users, re-post and there is probably some code that
> could be shared to save you time.
> >
> > Rob
> > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:33 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It works!
> >
> > Thank you, thank you, thank you Rob.
> >
> > I had never before heard of a SubTable View.
> >
> > Following the instructions in your email, I created the SubTable
> > View, then I re-added a control box back onto the Order Entry
> screen
> > and connected it to my newly added (SubTable View) Datasource,
> > ShipToInfo.Number01 . Then I exited Customization and went into
> Order
> > Entry. As soon as I opened an existing order, the value for Transit
> > Days immediately appeared!
> >
> > Now I can move on to the issue to working with calandar and date
> > math. However, even if I cannot get the date math to work
> perfectly,
> > the Order Entry users will be very happy that they can see the
> > Transit Days value on the Order Entry Header screen; then at least
> > they have a number to do their own calendar calculation to
> determine
> > a ShipBy date.
> >
> > I have been trying to get this Transit Days field to work for a
> very,
> > very long time. Now that I know about a SubTable View in Vantage,
> > I'm sure that I will be using this knowledge in future
> customizations.
> >
> > Thank you again.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Lynn,
> > > Â
> > > Don't quit on it yet. You're on the right track.
> > >
> > > It is (seems more often than not unfortunately) not always
> possible
> > to create a DIRECT FKV from a seemingly appropriate native table to
> > the foreign table you want to join & bind to the app.
> > >
> > > You have to get creative and relying on some trial and error luck
> > as a result of the lack of documentation (and the poor environment
> > provided that offers little error resolution guidance).
> > >
> > > Try creating a simple FKV from the native OrderRel table to table
> > Customer.
> > >
> > > Then (from your FKV Customer) try creating a SubTable View to
> table
> > ShipTo.
> > >
> > > SubTable Views allow YOU to decide what fields to create the join
> > through.
> > >
> > > Typically, you are always going to have Company as the 1st joined
> > field but, depending upon what version you are on (and what bugs it
> > has), it is possible company data isn't populated in the tables you
> > are trying to connect the dots through. (Look at the tables raw via
> a
> > simple BAQ dump or via odbc SQL if you encounter problems.)
> > >
> > > I'd guess your joins would be through Company, CustID & ShipToID.
> > >
> > > It can be a very frustrating trial and error process. I've had to
> > go as deep as 3 FKVs until I finally can get a SubTable to bring in
> > the data I'm after.
> > >
> > > If all else fails (and it might), open the Custom Object Explorer
> > (Adapter tab) and look at the methods and properties (as well as
> > sample code for each) for the ShipToAdapter. Make note of the
> > assemblies required for the adapter as you will likely have to add
> > them to the app as Custom Assemblies (to support the adapter).
> > >
> > > You should find a suitable search ("Get...") method that you can
> > build a subroutine around that will allow you to retrieve your
> > ShipTo.Number01 value associated with each order/line/release' s
> > Customer & ShipTo ID.
> > >
> > > Store it in a defined temp variable or an array (or permanently
> > save it to an OrderRel.Number# # field).
> > >
> > > Then you are ready to start doing some date math.
> > >
> > > ...I know... (yuck!) It can be done though... It takes some
> > persistence and in the end, you'll learn a lot more about how
> Vantage
> > works than you might have if it was as easy as falsely advertised.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:45 AM
> > >
> > > Yes, that sums it up exactly.
> > >
> > > I finished the Customer Maintenance customization. And I have
> > > already entered TransitDays data for several Ship-To locations.
> > >
> > > Then, I downloaded information on FKV's from the Epicor website
> and
> > > tried to create a FKV to the ShipTo table from the OrderHed. This
> > is
> > > where I am completely unsuccessful.
> > >
> > > Following the instructions in Answerbook # 6415MPS, I create a
> new
> > > custom view named "CustShipToInfo" . I select OrderHed as my
> Parent
> > > View Name. Then I move to Column Name. I think this is where I
> run
> > > into a problem. CustNum is available as a Column Name. But there
> > > are 2 issues I that I don't know how to overcome. First,
> ShipToNum
> > > is not one of the available Column Names for the Parent View
> > > OrderHed. Second, when I choose CustNum, I still need to tell the
> > > database which ShipToNum I want and there is not a place to add a
> > > second Column Name for the same FKV.
> > >
> > > The situation is the same if I select OrderDtl as the Parent View
> > > Name.
> > >
> > > The situation is different when I select OrderRel as the
> ParentView
> > > Name. When OrderRel is the Parent, I am allowed to choose
> ShipToNum
> > > as my column name; however, the LikeColumnValue populates
> > > as "ShipHead.ShipToNum ". There are 2 issues here. First, the
> > > ShipHead table does not contain my data. My data is in the ShipTo
> > > table. Second, I still need to tell the database which CustNum to
> > > use with the ShipToNum.
> > >
> > > I don't know what to do.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Lynn
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
> <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Lynn,
> > > >
> > > > OK. Let me see if I get your planned intent by repeating - then
> I
> > > can recommend:
> > > >
> > > > You either already have (or plan to) store an integer "Transit
> > > Days" value in the ShipTo table (presumably in a ud field like
> > > ShipTo.Number01) .
> > > >
> > > > That means Customer Maintenance will require a customization to
> > > expose ShipTo.Number01 and display it as read-only false so your
> > > people can edit it and add the info as new addresses are added
> over
> > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Once that data is available, in Order Entry you'll want to add
> > the
> > > custom assemblies needed to support the adapter & BO methods
> > > associated with the Ship To table. Then you can create a Foreign
> > Key
> > > View to the ShipTo table from the native OrderRel view.
> > > >
> > > > That then makes ShipTo.Number01 available to the Order Entry
> app
> > to
> > > display or use in VB subroutines and/or functions to do the
> offset
> > > days calculation.
> > > >
> > > > In order to do that offset days calculation, you need a
> calendar
> > > that defines your normal business/shipping days. You can either
> > > create one specifically for shipping or use your default company
> > > calendar stored in the ProdCal table (with exceptions - holidays -
>
> > > stored in ProdCalDay).
> > > >
> > > > (We found these calendars ridiculously conceived so, while we
> > must
> > > use & maintain them for resource capacity, etc., we actually
> > maintain
> > > a very simple holiday calender schema in a SQL server db. At some
> > > point we may move that to a UD table.)
> > > >
> > > > Once you've settled upon the source of your calendar, you'll
> need
> > > to write some functions to use the calendar data and your
> > > ShipTo.Number01 offset field to backwards calculate you Ship Date
> > > from the customer Need By date (or vice-versa if that is your
> > > process).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I understanding your need now?
> > > >
> > > > If so, does what I describe (as a possible way to obtain it)
> make
> > > sense to you?
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:47 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Rob:
> > > >
> > > > For some customers, we use our own trucks. For others, the
> > customer
> > > > has determined the carrier and we have been using the same
> > carrier
> > > > for the same shipto location for years.
> > > >
> > > > In nearly every case for every customer, we use the same
> Carrier
> > > for
> > > > all product that goes to a specific location. Therefore, in our
> > > > case, the Transit Days will rarely, if ever, change for a
> > specific
> > > > Shipto location.
> > > >
> > > > Hence, it makes sense for us to use a single Transit Days field
> > in
> > > > the ShipTo table. If we were constantly using different
> carriers,
> > > it
> > > > would be much more complicated. This is probably why Epicor
> > didn't
> > > > build this feature into the Order Entry design. If we used many
> > > > carriers for a single shipto address, I would probably have to
> > add
> > > a
> > > > separate userdefined table to store this information.
> > > >
> > > > And even though the Transit Days will always be estimates, it
> is
> > > more
> > > > efficient and effective if the Order Entry clerks could see the
> > > > Transit Days on the same screen during Order Entry.
> > > >
> > > > As it is now, they have to leave that screen and go back to the
> > > main
> > > > menu and open the Customer file, search for the Customer, then
> do
> > a
> > > > second Search for the correct Customer ShipTo code in order to
> > get
> > > > the Transit Days to calculate a reliable "Ship By" date based
> > upon
> > > > the Customer's "Need By" date.
> > > >
> > > > Prior to this, our Transit days are in our old database
> software
> > > > which matches a Carrier Name with the customer ShipTo address.
> We
> > > > are implementing Vantage and want to have the same feature in
> > > Vantage
> > > > that we do with our old software.
> > > >
> > > > But nothing will work until I can figure out how to pass the
> > field
> > > > from ShipTo to OrderHed.
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate your input and hints very much.
> > > >
> > > > Lynn
> > > >
> > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown
> > <robertb_versa@ ...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynn
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you know the working day offset to apply between the
> > > > customer Need By date and your Ship Date for individual order
> > line
> > > > releases? What is your data source for this info?
> > > > >
> > > > > Some simple 'rule of thumb' based on ship to address and/or
> > ship
> > > > via method or do you have the info in some data format from
> your
> > > > commonly used carriers? (Example: NextDay Air is 1 business day
> > no
> > > > matter what destination it is. UPS provides ground service
> > transist
> > > > times based upon your ship from zip and the ship to zip zones.
> > Big
> > > > LTL carriers can provide general guesstimate transist times
> with
> > > > about the same reliability of UPS. Small LTL's are often a
> sheer
> > > > guess, etc.,.)
> > > > >
> > > > > The date math itself is pretty straight forward (at least
> using
> > > VB)
> > > > once you have an accessible source for the offset data. We've
> got
> > a
> > > > number of customizations that do business day offset math.
> > > > >
> > > > > (No sense in doing the math unless you have a source of data
> > for
> > > > the math to be done with.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...> wrote:
> > > > > From: Lynn <lynn.khalife@ ...>
> > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Customization for Transit Days
> > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 9:15 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't think it would be possible to put a
> > > > calculation on an Epicor
> > > > >
> > > > > field. No, there isn't any reason that I need to add my own
> > > custom
> > > > >
> > > > > Ship By date. You are correct, I would much prefer to update
> > the
> > > > >
> > > > > Epicor-provided Ship-by date field.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But, my biggest hurdle right now is that I don't know how to
> > pass
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > TransitDays from the ShipTo table to the OrderHed table.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lynn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, "CharlieSmith" <CSmith@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why not just update the ship by date with the transit days
> > > > through
> > > > >
> > > > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > > customization. This will be much more advantageous because
> > many
> > > > of
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > reports, defaults and analysis is based on the ship-by date.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a business reason why you would need a custom ship
> > by
> > > > date?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Charlie Smith
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2W Technologies LLC
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
> > > yahoogroups .com]
> > > > On
> > > > >
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > >
> > > > > > Of Lynn
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:20 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Vantage] Customization for Transit Days
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On the Order Entry screens, the "Ship By" date defaults to
> > the
> > > > same
> > > > >
> > > > > > date as the "Need By" date.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have added a field (ShipTo.Number01) to Customer Ship To
> > > entry
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > labeled it "Transit Days".
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On the Order Entry screens, I would like to hide the Epicor-
> > > > >
> > > > > > supplied "Ship By" date field (OrderHed.RequestDa te) and
> add
> > > my
> > > > own
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ship By date field (OrderHed.Date01) .
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > During Order Entry, upon selecting a Customer ShipTo code,
> I
> > > want
> > > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > automatically pull the Transit Days number
> (ShipTo.Number01)
> > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > Customer ShipTo table and bring that value into a field
> named
> > > > >
> > > > > > OrderHed.Number01. Then I would like to subtract that value
> > > from
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > Need By date to automatically populate the correct Ship By
> > date
> > > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > my
> > > > >
> > > > > > new OrderHed.Date01 field.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I cannot figure out how to get the Transit Days data from
> > > > >
> > > > > > ShipTo.Number01 to OrderHed.Number01.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone shed some light on what I am missing with this
> > > > >
> > > > > > Customization?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have pulled information on FKV's from the Epicor website
> &
> > I
> > > am
> > > > >
> > > > > > still in the dark about how to transfer this data from one
> > > table
> > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > the next.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > And how do other people working in Order Entry determine
> what
> > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > enter for a "Ship By" date in order to ship the product
> early
> > > > >
> > > > > enough
> > > > >
> > > > > > to meet the Customer's Need By Date?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm in Vantage 8.03.404
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lynn
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>