Data collection vs. full licenses

We have only enough data collection licenses for our labor collector
stations in the shop. As once in a while our supervisors use a full
license to pick up something. Our supervisors are to make sure they are
only using data collection licenses in the morning. They can easily
tell which license they have with a quick look at the screen. The DC
license only has the limited menu for data collection.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Walton [SMTP:rwalton@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 2:27 PM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Data collection vs. full licenses

At first look, at least here, it appears the NT's are the plus
pid's. That
would make the 95/98's the neg. pid's (I think??). If so, I'm
back to
my original question: how to determine DC licenses from full
licenses.
Thanks Brian for addressing this!
Bob Walton

Brian Boyes wrote:

> > Are you sure? Because all the PIDs are negative in my
promon.
> Interesting. I just ran the DC client from my workstation and
the PID shows
> up positive. Anyone know what the PID being positive or
negative means? All
> of our DC stations are Win9x. All other workstations are
WinNT. Maybe there
> is some correlation there?
>
> Brian Boyes,
> Systems Administrator,
> Precision Resource Canada Ltd.
> <http://www.precisionresource.com>
> <mailto:brianb@...>
>
>
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Hi folks,
Is there any way, by using Promon or some other
tool, to determine which users are using data collection
licenses and those using a full license? I would want to
view these stats at either the server or at my admin.
workstation.
Thanks,
Bob Walton
Espey Mfg.
> Is there any way, by using Promon or some other
> tool, to determine which users are using data collection
> licenses and those using a full license?
On the server, if you go to the Shut Down Database option in Promon, the
stations using data collection have a negative number in the PID column. I
am talking about Vantage 4.0, but I recall it was similar in Vantage 3.

It would be nice if there was a way to show this information from my
workstation if anyone knows of a way to do that. Are the client-based
administration tools for Progress?

Brian Boyes,
Systems Administrator,
Precision Resource Canada Ltd.
<http://www.precisionresource.com>
<mailto:brianb@...>
Are you sure? Because all the PIDs are negative in my promon. Also, I
thought there was a way to setup promon shortcut on the client, I'll have
to check my notes.
> Is there any way, by using Promon or some other
> tool, to determine which users are using data collection
> licenses and those using a full license?
On the server, if you go to the Shut Down Database option in Promon, the
stations using data collection have a negative number in the PID column. I
am talking about Vantage 4.0, but I recall it was similar in Vantage 3.
You could use Winvnc at your computer to view the server and run promon.
It's simple, free, and works well.


Jeff Blair



C.N.C. Programmer
Network Administrator

Advanced Manufacturing Technologies, Inc.
316-943-0251
316-941-9472 fax
Visit our website at: www.advmantec.com
> Are you sure? Because all the PIDs are negative in my promon.
Interesting. I just ran the DC client from my workstation and the PID shows
up positive. Anyone know what the PID being positive or negative means? All
of our DC stations are Win9x. All other workstations are WinNT. Maybe there
is some correlation there?

Brian Boyes,
Systems Administrator,
Precision Resource Canada Ltd.
<http://www.precisionresource.com>
<mailto:brianb@...>
At first look, at least here, it appears the NT's are the plus pid's. That
would make the 95/98's the neg. pid's (I think??). If so, I'm back to
my original question: how to determine DC licenses from full licenses.
Thanks Brian for addressing this!
Bob Walton

Brian Boyes wrote:

> > Are you sure? Because all the PIDs are negative in my promon.
> Interesting. I just ran the DC client from my workstation and the PID shows
> up positive. Anyone know what the PID being positive or negative means? All
> of our DC stations are Win9x. All other workstations are WinNT. Maybe there
> is some correlation there?
>
> Brian Boyes,
> Systems Administrator,
> Precision Resource Canada Ltd.
> <http://www.precisionresource.com>
> <mailto:brianb@...>
>
>
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We have win 2000 on one comp and Nt on mine and the rest are all win98. all
of the 98 are neg. Only the nt and 2000 are pos.
In Vantage 3.0, the system didn't distinguish the difference between the
two licenses. It was also a way to have more users without paying the
higher prices for the full user licenses. They put the correction into
4.0 and for people like us, they added it to the last patch we received
of 3.0.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Boyes [SMTP:brianb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:48 PM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Data collection vs. full licenses

> Is there any way, by using Promon or some other
> tool, to determine which users are using data collection
> licenses and those using a full license?
On the server, if you go to the Shut Down Database option in
Promon, the
stations using data collection have a negative number in the PID
column. I
am talking about Vantage 4.0, but I recall it was similar in
Vantage 3.

It would be nice if there was a way to show this information
from my
workstation if anyone knows of a way to do that. Are the
client-based
administration tools for Progress?

Brian Boyes,
Systems Administrator,
Precision Resource Canada Ltd.
<http://www.precisionresource.com>
<mailto:brianb@...>

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