Database Conversion

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Tom Christie | Information Technology Manager | AGM Container Controls, Inc. | tchristie@...<mailto:tchristie@...> | t: 520.881.2130 ext 2176

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Database Conversion



Tom,
I am partial to SQL myself and used views with crystal reports off the Epicor menu at my last company. The new company I'm at is global and supports different languages - so I'm heading back down the BQR route as painful as it is for a SQL gal... (I know, I can use external BAQs but that still means a BQR report to get translations).

Are you doing anything in other languages with your SQL and SSRS?
Jenn

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Tom J. Christie" <tchristie@...> wrote:
>
> I have moved almost entirely to SQL and SSRS as well. I still have to support all the RDDs and Crystal reports that exist though. Boo!
>
> Speaking of how people build reporting tools, I have moved to use SSRS and SQL for most static reports (lots of automated emails and such), Excel with ODBCs for large data dump style reports (for the users that like to manipulate, sort, and pivot), and .Net Executables for nasty complex programs that need to manipulate the data after SQL (or write back into the system using the BOs). Anyone else moved away from the built in tools for easier reporting?
>
> Tom Christie | Information Technology Manager | AGM Container Controls, Inc. | tchristie@...<mailto:tchristie@...> | t: 520.881.2130 ext 2176



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Is there any harm in running the Database Conversion utility? There seems to
be something screwy in our part allocation totals and I came across the
utility to recalculate the allocation quantities. Any problem in running
this or any of the other conversion?

Thanks,

Fredy Venczel
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I've had to run the Database Conversion Utility several times on 5.2. Never
had a problem, and it seemed to correct the quirks! Good luck.

Rebecca
-----Original Message-----
From: Fredy Venczel [mailto:fvenczel@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:33 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion


Is there any harm in running the Database Conversion utility? There seems
to
be something screwy in our part allocation totals and I came across the
utility to recalculate the allocation quantities. Any problem in running
this or any of the other conversion?

Thanks,

Fredy Venczel


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Help-
I'm getting the following error/message:
Database conversion programs need to be run. Cannot use the Shop Floor
programs before running the conversions from regular menu.

How do I know which conversion program to run? What could have caused this
to come up?

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Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
Firstmark Aerospace
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Office 919.956.4303
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I deleted a serial number that was all 0's and that seems to have fixed the
problem.
Thanks.


________________________
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
Firstmark Aerospace
www.firstmarkaerospace.com
jconrad@...
Office 919.956.4303
Cell 919.697.7365




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From: Conrad, Jeff [mailto:jconrad@...]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:09 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion


Help-
I'm getting the following error/message:
Database conversion programs need to be run. Cannot use the Shop Floor
programs before running the conversions from regular menu.

How do I know which conversion program to run? What could have caused this
to come up?

________________________
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
Firstmark Aerospace
www.firstmarkaerospace.com <www.firstmarkaerospace.com>
jconrad@...
Office 919.956.4303
Cell 919.697.7365





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2nd submittal of this message:
I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due to
the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with 6.1's
work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like to
speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the data.

Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?
7
YES! In our test environment we successfully converted from Vantage 6.10
to Vantage 8.0 to Vantage 8.03 (you have to go to 8 before you can go to
8.03) If you have any questions feel free to contact me.



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of stanchmura
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion



2nd submittal of this message:
I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due to
the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with 6.1's
work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like to
speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the data.

Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?





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Toby:
Thanks for the response! I know a couple of users who have "successfully"
converted in a test environment, only to find out that going live was not
possible with the converted data. (I have done about 20 test conversions
beginning with 8.0 in May of 2005 right up to 8.803 patch 305d).

The areas where there are issues are with resource groups (all 6.1 BOMs do
not work and must be re-entered). Also there were issues with financial
reports where totals tied out, but the sub ledgers were way off. Other
reported issues were with price breaks in 6.1 which are now price lists in
8.0; Shop floor does not end activities from data collectors; and a host of
other minor yet annoying problems.

Perhaps we can assist each other with what we've learned in out test
environments. What is the easiest way to contact you?

Thanks!

Stan

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Toby Boogerd
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion

YES! In our test environment we successfully converted from Vantage 6.10
to Vantage 8.0 to Vantage 8.03 (you have to go to 8 before you can go to
8.03) If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of stanchmura
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion

2nd submittal of this message:
I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due to
the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with 6.1's
work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like to
speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the data.

Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?

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Hi Toby, Stan and others,

We are also trying to do the conversion from 6.1 to 8.03.
Can I join in too?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x114




-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stan Chmura
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion

Toby:
Thanks for the response! I know a couple of users who have "successfully"
converted in a test environment, only to find out that going live was not
possible with the converted data. (I have done about 20 test conversions
beginning with 8.0 in May of 2005 right up to 8.803 patch 305d).

The areas where there are issues are with resource groups (all 6.1 BOMs do
not work and must be re-entered). Also there were issues with financial
reports where totals tied out, but the sub ledgers were way off. Other
reported issues were with price breaks in 6.1 which are now price lists in
8.0; Shop floor does not end activities from data collectors; and a host of
other minor yet annoying problems.

Perhaps we can assist each other with what we've learned in out test
environments. What is the easiest way to contact you?

Thanks!

Stan

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Toby Boogerd
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion

YES! In our test environment we successfully converted from Vantage 6.10
to Vantage 8.0 to Vantage 8.03 (you have to go to 8 before you can go to
8.03) If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of stanchmura
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion

2nd submittal of this message:
I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due to
the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with 6.1's
work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like to
speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the data.

Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?

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That would be fine with me John. The more information we get the better
handle we can have on this thing.



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:27 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion



Hi Toby, Stan and others,

We are also trying to do the conversion from 6.1 to 8.03.
Can I join in too?

Thanks,

John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x114

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Stan Chmura
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion

Toby:
Thanks for the response! I know a couple of users who have
"successfully"
converted in a test environment, only to find out that going live was
not
possible with the converted data. (I have done about 20 test conversions
beginning with 8.0 in May of 2005 right up to 8.803 patch 305d).

The areas where there are issues are with resource groups (all 6.1 BOMs
do
not work and must be re-entered). Also there were issues with financial
reports where totals tied out, but the sub ledgers were way off. Other
reported issues were with price breaks in 6.1 which are now price lists
in
8.0; Shop floor does not end activities from data collectors; and a host
of
other minor yet annoying problems.

Perhaps we can assist each other with what we've learned in out test
environments. What is the easiest way to contact you?

Thanks!

Stan

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Toby Boogerd
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion

YES! In our test environment we successfully converted from Vantage 6.10
to Vantage 8.0 to Vantage 8.03 (you have to go to 8 before you can go to
8.03) If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
Of stanchmura
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:29 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion

2nd submittal of this message:
I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due to
the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with 6.1's
work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like to
speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the data.

Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?

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Man... everyone is converting from 6.10 to 8.03 today huh?? I'm in the
process as we speak. I am converting from 6.10 to 8.0 then 8.0 to 8.03.
Thats the only way I know there is. Long process with all the schema
changes and data conversions.

Chad Brown
GTech Precision Inc. (USA) Ltd.
Ph: 817.539.8014
Fx: 817.539.8018
www.gtechprecision.com


Toby Boogerd wrote:
>
> That would be fine with me John. The more information we get the better
> handle we can have on this thing.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf
> Of John Mansfield
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:27 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
>
> Hi Toby, Stan and others,
>
> We are also trying to do the conversion from 6.1 to 8.03.
> Can I join in too?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Mansfield
> General Sheet Metal
> 574 288 0611 x114
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of Stan Chmura
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:07 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
>
> Toby:
> Thanks for the response! I know a couple of users who have
> "successfully"
> converted in a test environment, only to find out that going live was
> not
> possible with the converted data. (I have done about 20 test conversions
> beginning with 8.0 in May of 2005 right up to 8.803 patch 305d).
>
> The areas where there are issues are with resource groups (all 6.1 BOMs
> do
> not work and must be re-entered). Also there were issues with financial
> reports where totals tied out, but the sub ledgers were way off. Other
> reported issues were with price breaks in 6.1 which are now price lists
> in
> 8.0; Shop floor does not end activities from data collectors; and a host
> of
> other minor yet annoying problems.
>
> Perhaps we can assist each other with what we've learned in out test
> environments. What is the easiest way to contact you?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stan
>
> _____
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> Toby Boogerd
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:34 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
>
> YES! In our test environment we successfully converted from Vantage 6.10
> to Vantage 8.0 to Vantage 8.03 (you have to go to 8 before you can go to
> 8.03) If you have any questions feel free to contact me.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> Behalf
> Of stanchmura
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:29 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion
>
> 2nd submittal of this message:
> I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due to
> the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with 6.1's
> work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like to
> speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the data.
>
> Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>


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We have done the conversion from 6.1 up to 8.03 3 weeks ago, it was a
full weekend event. We are having alot of issues, 1st our performance
was terrible. We ended up buying another server but that did not help
much. We finally got a developer to webex into our server and tune
the app servers best he could. Now looks like our biggest issue is
scheduling jobs. All the material inside a job is dated as needed
with the job start date, it used to work fine in 6.1 with the related
operation start date. Support is trying to figure that out for us. We
also run MRP and today just discovered if MRP does not create the job
and we create it from Planning Workbench then it creates it in a
plant that does not exist in our Vantage. We cannot get Customer
Connect to work and support has been trying to resolve that for 3
weeks now. In 6.1 we used to export BAQ as DB files so we could like
them in Access that file type export is no longer available. Its been
a rough 3 weeks now so maybe you will have better luck then I did

Dan Ernst
Correct Craft, Inc.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Chad Brown <chad.brown@...> wrote:
>
> Man... everyone is converting from 6.10 to 8.03 today huh?? I'm
in the
> process as we speak. I am converting from 6.10 to 8.0 then 8.0 to
8.03.
> Thats the only way I know there is. Long process with all the
schema
> changes and data conversions.
>
> Chad Brown
> GTech Precision Inc. (USA) Ltd.
> Ph: 817.539.8014
> Fx: 817.539.8018
> www.gtechprecision.com
>
>
> Toby Boogerd wrote:
> >
> > That would be fine with me John. The more information we get the
better
> > handle we can have on this thing.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf
> > Of John Mansfield
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:27 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
> >
> > Hi Toby, Stan and others,
> >
> > We are also trying to do the conversion from 6.1 to 8.03.
> > Can I join in too?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John Mansfield
> > General Sheet Metal
> > 574 288 0611 x114
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of Stan Chmura
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:07 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
> >
> > Toby:
> > Thanks for the response! I know a couple of users who have
> > "successfully"
> > converted in a test environment, only to find out that going live
was
> > not
> > possible with the converted data. (I have done about 20 test
conversions
> > beginning with 8.0 in May of 2005 right up to 8.803 patch 305d).
> >
> > The areas where there are issues are with resource groups (all
6.1 BOMs
> > do
> > not work and must be re-entered). Also there were issues with
financial
> > reports where totals tied out, but the sub ledgers were way off.
Other
> > reported issues were with price breaks in 6.1 which are now price
lists
> > in
> > 8.0; Shop floor does not end activities from data collectors; and
a host
> > of
> > other minor yet annoying problems.
> >
> > Perhaps we can assist each other with what we've learned in out
test
> > environments. What is the easiest way to contact you?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Stan
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of
> > Toby Boogerd
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:34 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion
> >
> > YES! In our test environment we successfully converted from
Vantage 6.10
> > to Vantage 8.0 to Vantage 8.03 (you have to go to 8 before you
can go to
> > 8.03) If you have any questions feel free to contact me.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> > Behalf
> > Of stanchmura
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:29 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion
> >
> > 2nd submittal of this message:
> > I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due
to
> > the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with
6.1's
> > work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like
to
> > speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the
data.
> >
> > Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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I am currently converting my database 8.00 to 8.03 on my test server.
So far I don't have any problems converting, not completely done with
the conversion, just waiting to see what the outcome is.

James

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Toby Boogerd" <tboogerd@...> wrote:
>
> YES! In our test environment we successfully converted from Vantage 6.10
> to Vantage 8.0 to Vantage 8.03 (you have to go to 8 before you can go to
> 8.03) If you have any questions feel free to contact me.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of stanchmura
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:29 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion
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>
>
> 2nd submittal of this message:
> I have been trying to convert 6.1 data to the 8.803 release. Due to
> the .net architecture change I find the biggest issue is with 6.1's
> work centers/operations becoming resources in 8.803. I would like to
> speak to someone about the "do's and don't's" when converting the data.
>
> Has anyone successfully converted a 6.1 db to 8.803?
>
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I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them, then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES etc.

Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats it customer I wonder what else they will do later.


Thank you for letting me vent off.

Larry Barriere
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Ditto!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Barriere [mailto:larrybarriere@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion



I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them, then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES etc.

Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats it customer I wonder what else they will do later.


Thank you for letting me vent off.

Larry Barriere
barriere@polyvac. <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com> com

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Count my vote in!

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion



Ditto!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Barriere [mailto:larrybarriere@...
<mailto:larrybarriere%40yahoo.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion

I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being
successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not
Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor
does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to
have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only
way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do
a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does
convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was
CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK
but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them,
then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES
etc.

Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of
their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at
other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats
it customer I wonder what else they will do later.

Thank you for letting me vent off.

Larry Barriere
barriere@polyvac. <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com> com

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I called support and they say it is not possible to convert from 6.1 to
8.03. You must got to 8.00 first.



Todd



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jasper Recto
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Database Conversion



Ditto!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Barriere [mailto:larrybarriere@...
<mailto:larrybarriere%40yahoo.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion

I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being
successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not
Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor
does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to
have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only
way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do
a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does
convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was
CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK
but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them,
then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES
etc.

Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of
their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at
other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats
it customer I wonder what else they will do later.

Thank you for letting me vent off.

Larry Barriere
barriere@polyvac. <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com> com

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Hi Larry,



I'm not familiar with 6.1or how PolyVac has BOMs and Routes setup but we
converted work centers from our legacy system to 8.0 and 8.03 with
little problem.

I ended up using Microsoft Access to map from one system to another.



I'd really be interested to see if there is something I can do help out
now that we're one big family! :-)

Let me know.



Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Barriere
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion



I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being
successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not
Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor
does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to
have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only
way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do
a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does
convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was
CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK
but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them,
then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES
etc.

Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of
their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at
other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats
it customer I wonder what else they will do later.


Thank you for letting me vent off.

Larry Barriere
barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>

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I could take losing all my report builder reports.
I could take losing all my VBForm modifications.
I could take losing all my .p script files from not working.
I could take losing all my dashboards.
I could take the system running slower, kinda.
But when my data converted and my workcenters needed to now me
resources, my JCDepts need to be Resource group so all my jobs, part,
quotes were no longer going to work in 8.0 that made me think, what were
they thinking.

Patrick Winter


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Barriere
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion



I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being
successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not
Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor
does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to
have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only
way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do
a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does
convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was
CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK
but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them,
then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES
etc.

Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of
their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at
other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats
it customer I wonder what else they will do later.


Thank you for letting me vent off.

Larry Barriere
barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>

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No ERP vendor will offer a conversion tool for FREE.

SAP, Great Plains, Navision, Macola, etc make many millions of dollars
every year in professional services.

I know you are a little pissed at Epicor right now, I can tell you that
I have been through three ERP deployments from three different software
vendors before Vantage and Epicor is operating within industry norms.



Do other companies have data mapping tools designed for conversions?,
Yes. Are they free?, No, and in some cases are reserved for
professional services and not available to the end user at all.





Gerard M Wadman

Sr. Network Systems Engineer



Scandius BioMedical Inc.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Barriere
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Database Conversion



I have not heard from anyone who converted from 6.1 to 8.03 as being
successful.
If I am wrong please let me know.
I know if you implement from the ground up Vantage V8 works fine (Not
Converting but doing data entry by hand.
But to convert from 6.1 to 8.0 then 8.03 seem to be a problem. Epicor
does not have a tool to do a proper conversions. Epicor would like us to
have their consultant come in at a cost and explain to us that the only
way to get v8 to run right we need to do an implementation.
I do believe we as a group should demand from Epicor a TOOL that will do
a good conversion.
I have done the conversion from 6.1 to 8.0 to 8.03 and the data does
convert but it is NOT usable. At first we believed that the data was
CORRECT. After doing some test we realized that some of the data is OK
but we also had some corruption. Work center costing was one of them,
then the BOM were also a problem. Accounting was also a problem. MES
etc.

Unless Epicor come up with a tool at NO EXPENSE to the customers most of
their customers who has to do an implementation should seriously look at
other option.
I know Vantage is a good product, but if that is the way Epicor treats
it customer I wonder what else they will do later.


Thank you for letting me vent off.

Larry Barriere
barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>

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