Digest Number 1876

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From: ggrenier@... [mailto:ggrenier@...]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Digest Number 1876



You ARE going to Mom and Dad's tonight, right?
__________________________
Gary Grenier
IT Manager
Bell Manufacturing Co.
(207) 784-2961 x245
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05/19/02 03:54 Subject: [Vantage] Digest
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There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
2. Server Upgrade TIP
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 13:29:36 +1000
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
Subject: RE: [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings

I didn't see any further posts on this, so I will chip in my $0.02 ...

A sniff of the packets would be really interesting, but assuming you don't
have this setup, another very good tool is 'filemon'. I've mainly used it
with NT4, but according to readme runs on with 9x/NT/2000. You don't even
need to install it, just 3 files (+ help + readme). It will tell you all
the file calls your PC is making. You will be amazed at how hard Windows
looks for stuff (eg every directory in the path, etc), you really wonder if
the people who write the code realise how un-efficient it is, guess it is
the modular approach that does it.

Anyway, with FileMon you will be able to see the file open, read, write
activity that the PC is making. If you can't find it on the net let me
know, but that is where I got it from (eg google).

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 1:47 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings


We just upgraded a couple Win 98se CAD workstations to Windows 2000 Pro and
are finding that one CAD application to output CNC mill instructions is
running a lot slower. The CAD file being worked on is on a "shared" PC
acting as a file server (running Win98). The vendor says the slowness is a
network issue. Moving the CAD file to the local drive does speed it up a
lot (from 15 min to 3 seconds !) so this confirms it. When running Win98se
it ran very fast (3-4 seconds to output 80,000 lines of instructions). So
it seems to me the upgrade must have changed some network setting.

Any ideas for Win2000 settings that may need to be looked at? All machines
involved are in the same room connected to the same 100Mb switch. The only
thing that changed was the OS.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.




________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:00:17 +1000
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
Subject: Server Upgrade TIP

If you are doing a hardware replacement on your Vantage server I found out
the hard way that if you want to keep the same name (as I did for all those
RB reports, etc), you might want to change the name BEFORE you install
Progress/Vantage. I had everything working, and was just waiting for the
old server name to disappear from Server Manager (NT4) before renaming the
new box. It was late, so I went home and renamed the server in the morning
from home. Went to run Vantage and looks like it has hung, but was
actually
working in slow motion. Work is close, so I head in. PCs still running
fine, but not from server. A re-install of the Client on the server didn't
help. The only UnRegOCX.Bat I could find was for v3, so I changed about 40
entries using RegEdit.

I guess you could debate at what point you rename the old server so that
you
can give the new one the same name. I installed new as XXX-NEW (BDC),
Promoted to PDC, Renamed XXX to XXX-OLD, Renamed XXX-NEW to XXX. I like to
see the new one working before I touch the old one, this method was ok, but
I just didn't predict their being UNC entries in the registry (well, should
there be ?).

I've gone a similar path to Shirley, but not quite as Flash. TYAN 2466, 2
x
Athlon MP 1900+, 1GB PC2100, Adaptec 2110S, and 4 x 18GB 10,000RPM with 2
for NT, and 2 for Vantage.

Given the rush I was in (RAID controller threw a wobbly in old COMPAQ) I
didn't have time to research a tape drive (will copy backup file to my PC
daily this week). The place I bought it from sell a Seagate STT22000N-RTF,
which is a 20Gb Travan TR5, Internal IDE. This is only about $300(US).
That's plenty of capacity for my Vantage server and IDE is preferred as I
would need a different SCSI cable to plug in any more devices. Anyone care
to comment on this tape drive. Seems too cheap. The old Compaq had a
20/40
DLT, which is like 3 times the price for an Ex-Demo. I want it to work
with
NT4 and ArcServe 6.5.

Regards
Michael Miles
Continental Conveyor




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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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You ARE going to Mom and Dad's tonight, right?
__________________________
Gary Grenier
IT Manager
Bell Manufacturing Co.
(207) 784-2961 x245
mailto:ggrenier@...





vantage@yahoog
roups.com To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
cc:
05/19/02 03:54 Subject: [Vantage] Digest Number 1876
PM
Please respond
to vantage







Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
------------------------------------------------------------------------

There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
2. Server Upgrade TIP
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>


________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 13:29:36 +1000
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
Subject: RE: [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings

I didn't see any further posts on this, so I will chip in my $0.02 ...

A sniff of the packets would be really interesting, but assuming you don't
have this setup, another very good tool is 'filemon'. I've mainly used it
with NT4, but according to readme runs on with 9x/NT/2000. You don't even
need to install it, just 3 files (+ help + readme). It will tell you all
the file calls your PC is making. You will be amazed at how hard Windows
looks for stuff (eg every directory in the path, etc), you really wonder if
the people who write the code realise how un-efficient it is, guess it is
the modular approach that does it.

Anyway, with FileMon you will be able to see the file open, read, write
activity that the PC is making. If you can't find it on the net let me
know, but that is where I got it from (eg google).

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 1:47 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings


We just upgraded a couple Win 98se CAD workstations to Windows 2000 Pro and
are finding that one CAD application to output CNC mill instructions is
running a lot slower. The CAD file being worked on is on a "shared" PC
acting as a file server (running Win98). The vendor says the slowness is a
network issue. Moving the CAD file to the local drive does speed it up a
lot (from 15 min to 3 seconds !) so this confirms it. When running Win98se
it ran very fast (3-4 seconds to output 80,000 lines of instructions). So
it seems to me the upgrade must have changed some network setting.

Any ideas for Win2000 settings that may need to be looked at? All machines
involved are in the same room connected to the same 100Mb switch. The only
thing that changed was the OS.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.




________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:00:17 +1000
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
Subject: Server Upgrade TIP

If you are doing a hardware replacement on your Vantage server I found out
the hard way that if you want to keep the same name (as I did for all those
RB reports, etc), you might want to change the name BEFORE you install
Progress/Vantage. I had everything working, and was just waiting for the
old server name to disappear from Server Manager (NT4) before renaming the
new box. It was late, so I went home and renamed the server in the morning
from home. Went to run Vantage and looks like it has hung, but was
actually
working in slow motion. Work is close, so I head in. PCs still running
fine, but not from server. A re-install of the Client on the server didn't
help. The only UnRegOCX.Bat I could find was for v3, so I changed about 40
entries using RegEdit.

I guess you could debate at what point you rename the old server so that
you
can give the new one the same name. I installed new as XXX-NEW (BDC),
Promoted to PDC, Renamed XXX to XXX-OLD, Renamed XXX-NEW to XXX. I like to
see the new one working before I touch the old one, this method was ok, but
I just didn't predict their being UNC entries in the registry (well, should
there be ?).

I've gone a similar path to Shirley, but not quite as Flash. TYAN 2466, 2
x
Athlon MP 1900+, 1GB PC2100, Adaptec 2110S, and 4 x 18GB 10,000RPM with 2
for NT, and 2 for Vantage.

Given the rush I was in (RAID controller threw a wobbly in old COMPAQ) I
didn't have time to research a tape drive (will copy backup file to my PC
daily this week). The place I bought it from sell a Seagate STT22000N-RTF,
which is a 20Gb Travan TR5, Internal IDE. This is only about $300(US).
That's plenty of capacity for my Vantage server and IDE is preferred as I
would need a different SCSI cable to plug in any more devices. Anyone care
to comment on this tape drive. Seems too cheap. The old Compaq had a
20/40
DLT, which is like 3 times the price for an Ex-Demo. I want it to work
with
NT4 and ArcServe 6.5.

Regards
Michael Miles
Continental Conveyor




________________________________________________________________________
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No I can't, they live in Florida:)

-----Original Message-----
From: ggrenier@... [mailto:ggrenier@...]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Digest Number 1876



You ARE going to Mom and Dad's tonight, right?
__________________________
Gary Grenier
IT Manager
Bell Manufacturing Co.
(207) 784-2961 x245
mailto:ggrenier@...






vantage@yahoog

roups.com To: vantage@yahoogroups.com

cc:

05/19/02 03:54 Subject: [Vantage] Digest
Number 1876
PM

Please respond

to vantage










Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
2. Server Upgrade TIP
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>


________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 13:29:36 +1000
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
Subject: RE: [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings

I didn't see any further posts on this, so I will chip in my $0.02 ...

A sniff of the packets would be really interesting, but assuming you don't
have this setup, another very good tool is 'filemon'. I've mainly used it
with NT4, but according to readme runs on with 9x/NT/2000. You don't even
need to install it, just 3 files (+ help + readme). It will tell you all
the file calls your PC is making. You will be amazed at how hard Windows
looks for stuff (eg every directory in the path, etc), you really wonder if
the people who write the code realise how un-efficient it is, guess it is
the modular approach that does it.

Anyway, with FileMon you will be able to see the file open, read, write
activity that the PC is making. If you can't find it on the net let me
know, but that is where I got it from (eg google).

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 1:47 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Win2000 Pro Network Settings


We just upgraded a couple Win 98se CAD workstations to Windows 2000 Pro and
are finding that one CAD application to output CNC mill instructions is
running a lot slower. The CAD file being worked on is on a "shared" PC
acting as a file server (running Win98). The vendor says the slowness is a
network issue. Moving the CAD file to the local drive does speed it up a
lot (from 15 min to 3 seconds !) so this confirms it. When running Win98se
it ran very fast (3-4 seconds to output 80,000 lines of instructions). So
it seems to me the upgrade must have changed some network setting.

Any ideas for Win2000 settings that may need to be looked at? All machines
involved are in the same room connected to the same 100Mb switch. The only
thing that changed was the OS.

Thanks,
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.




________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:00:17 +1000
From: "Michael Miles" <mmiles@...>
Subject: Server Upgrade TIP

If you are doing a hardware replacement on your Vantage server I found out
the hard way that if you want to keep the same name (as I did for all those
RB reports, etc), you might want to change the name BEFORE you install
Progress/Vantage. I had everything working, and was just waiting for the
old server name to disappear from Server Manager (NT4) before renaming the
new box. It was late, so I went home and renamed the server in the morning
from home. Went to run Vantage and looks like it has hung, but was
actually
working in slow motion. Work is close, so I head in. PCs still running
fine, but not from server. A re-install of the Client on the server didn't
help. The only UnRegOCX.Bat I could find was for v3, so I changed about 40
entries using RegEdit.

I guess you could debate at what point you rename the old server so that
you
can give the new one the same name. I installed new as XXX-NEW (BDC),
Promoted to PDC, Renamed XXX to XXX-OLD, Renamed XXX-NEW to XXX. I like to
see the new one working before I touch the old one, this method was ok, but
I just didn't predict their being UNC entries in the registry (well, should
there be ?).

I've gone a similar path to Shirley, but not quite as Flash. TYAN 2466, 2
x
Athlon MP 1900+, 1GB PC2100, Adaptec 2110S, and 4 x 18GB 10,000RPM with 2
for NT, and 2 for Vantage.

Given the rush I was in (RAID controller threw a wobbly in old COMPAQ) I
didn't have time to research a tape drive (will copy backup file to my PC
daily this week). The place I bought it from sell a Seagate STT22000N-RTF,
which is a 20Gb Travan TR5, Internal IDE. This is only about $300(US).
That's plenty of capacity for my Vantage server and IDE is preferred as I
would need a different SCSI cable to plug in any more devices. Anyone care
to comment on this tape drive. Seems too cheap. The old Compaq had a
20/40
DLT, which is like 3 times the price for an Ex-Demo. I want it to work
with
NT4 and ArcServe 6.5.

Regards
Michael Miles
Continental Conveyor




________________________________________________________________________
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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