-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Digest Number 3285
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Shirley Graver" <shirleyg@...>
2. Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
From: "pzieve" <peterz@...>
3. RE: Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
From: "Ron LaHolt" <ron@...>
4. RE: Exporting Crystal Reports to Excel on TS
From: "Bruce Butler" <bbutler@...>
5. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
6. OT: Registry Cleaner
From: "Paul Lipham" <pml@...>
7. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
8. Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
9. Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
10. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
11. RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
From: "Conrad, Jeff" <jconrad@...>
12. Going Multiplant
From: "mansfield1024" <johnm@...>
13. RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
14. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: Lydia Coffman <lcoffman@...>
15. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Susan Iverson" <siverson@...>
16. RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
From: sarah.vareschi@...
17. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Mark Dupuis" <dupuism@...>
18. Re: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: jeremyrleonard@...
19. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
20. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: sarah.vareschi@...
21. RE: Going Multiplant
From: "Michelle de la Vega" <mdelavega@...>
22. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
23. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Todd Caughey" <caugheyt@...>
24. RE: Going Multiplant
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
25. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:51:25 -0400
From: "Shirley Graver" <shirleyg@...>
Subject: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:32:14 -0000
From: "pzieve" <peterz@...>
Subject: Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
Is there an easy way to find the difference between the Production
Detail Report for a specific job and the Inventory/WIP Account
reconciliation for the same job? Mine is off and Vantage posted the
amount on the Production detail report as a credit when I closed the
job. This posting has created the WIP-Material GL off.
Thanks for any help.
Carol
Electroimpact, INC
carols@...
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:36:21 -0500
From: "Ron LaHolt" <ron@...>
Subject: RE: Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
If you are on version 6.1 you can run an inventory wip reconciliation
report by job, otherwise, you will have to have to run the entire report
for the period of time the job was open & look for the entries that
apply. Most likely the differences will be in a variance account you
designated in your account set-up.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of pzieve
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 4:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded
on GL
Is there an easy way to find the difference between the Production
Detail Report for a specific job and the Inventory/WIP Account
reconciliation for the same job? Mine is off and Vantage posted the
amount on the Production detail report as a credit when I closed the
job. This posting has created the WIP-Material GL off.
Thanks for any help.
Carol
Electroimpact, INC
carols@...
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:56:53 -0400
From: "Bruce Butler" <bbutler@...>
Subject: RE: Exporting Crystal Reports to Excel on TS
I have had the same experience. Since I am the only user using this, I
have not tried to track it down. I assumed it was a problem with my
install. Evidently not.
Bruce Butler
IT Manager
Knappe & Koester
bbutler@...
Message: 16
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:26:06 -0400
From: "Michelle de la Vega" <mdelavega@...>
Subject: Exporting Crystal Reports to Excel on TS
I have complied many crystal reports and my users are able to run them
from Vantage and export to Excel without any problems. However, my
Terminal Server users are not able to export to excel. Has anyone run
into this before?
TIA
Michelle de la Vega
Business Applications Manager
Cold Jet, LLC
513-831-3211 ext 400
513-831-1209 fax
www.ColdJet.com
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:18:16 -0500
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Hi Shirley,
I'm pretty sure Side B is the way to go. the other thing is that each
material on the jobs can be directly assigned to a specific operation.
in
that way you can be sure exactly what is being used and at which point
in
the overall process.
I think side A would drive you all crazy. It's a lot of extra work,
and my
opinion would be that it would all be needless. Vantage does the work
already.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:02:31 -0500
From: "Paul Lipham" <pml@...>
Subject: OT: Registry Cleaner
I'm looking for a registry cleaner for Windows 2000 pro and XP pro.
I downloaded Registry Mechanic trial and did a scan, which found 200
problems on my desktop computer, but was scared to let it repair
anything.
Has anyone found a good reliable registry cleaner? Anyone gotten bitten
by
one?
Best Regards,
Paul Lipham
Information Systems Manager
Alabama Specialty Products, Inc.
256-358-4202
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:11:50 -0500
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If you were looking to poll people's opinions on this, I
ditto Rhonda.
M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Sherer, Rhonda
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:18 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Hi Shirley,
I'm pretty sure Side B is the way to go. the other thing
is that each
material on the jobs can be directly assigned to a
specific operation. in
that way you can be sure exactly what is being used and at
which point in
the overall process.
I think side A would drive you all crazy. It's a lot of
extra work, and my
opinion would be that it would all be needless. Vantage
does the work
already.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job
Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job
operations are the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job
step so that WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves
to operation 2 it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes
part ABC3 and so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number
in the part master
for each process step, so that materials management will
know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is
unnecessary because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each
process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the
process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way
to determine how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are
the ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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yahoo id to enable access. )
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Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies',
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:15:59 -0000
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
Subject: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:15:45 -0000
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
Subject: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:21:21 -0500
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
You know, Shirley, you could always give him a test database
to show why his reasoning is just too cumbersome.
Then show how your reasoning makes more sense.
I've done this enough times in the past to show Management
the error of their ways.
Just a thought......
M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of shirleygraver
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new
materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided
that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem
to be hearing
me.
Shirley
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
Note: You must have already linked your email address to a
yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies',
please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:43:18 -0400
From: "Conrad, Jeff" <jconrad@...>
Subject: RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Thanks for the responses.
Now, what is the syntax for my database name in Promon?
I've tried UNC and IP:port with no luck.
Are there instructions for this utility somewhere?
I'm stuck at the front door.
Please help.
Thanks,
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
919.956.4303
Firstmark Aerospace
Durham, NC
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From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
There are 2 different utilities we use depending on the type of hung
session. There's PROMON and also the SYSUSR52.R utility (this is the
name
for 5.2 which we are still on). For the sysusr program, you have to
call
support to get it and it comes with instructions. For promon, you need
to
first set this up on your server, then option 8 to kill a session. I
believe the instructions for setting up promon are part of the Vantage
install guides - if not I know I've found them in the past by searching
the
vantage answerbook. You can also end user sessions directly from
Vantage on
the server only through "System Management" -> "Utilities" -> "Connected
User" -> "Disconnect"...
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:43:11 -0000
From: "mansfield1024" <johnm@...>
Subject: Going Multiplant
Hi Everyone,
We are considering another location in Wisconsin.
What do I want to know about multi plant?
What suggestions do you have?
Who is currently multi plant on version 6.1?
Thanks,
John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x14
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:45:07 -0500
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
These are either in the Vantage instructions when you first
loaded Vantage on your server, or in the mfgbkup.txt file
located in the mfgsys61 directory (towards the bottom).
Just don't remember which one.
I remember it being incredible easy to setup (just pointing
the file to the right path).
HTH,
M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Conrad, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Thanks for the responses.
Now, what is the syntax for my database name in Promon?
I've tried UNC and IP:port with no luck.
Are there instructions for this utility somewhere?
I'm stuck at the front door.
Please help.
Thanks,
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
919.956.4303
Firstmark Aerospace
Durham, NC
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From: sarah.vareschi@...
[mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
There are 2 different utilities we use depending on the
type of hung
session. There's PROMON and also the SYSUSR52.R utility
(this is the name
for 5.2 which we are still on). For the sysusr program,
you have to call
support to get it and it comes with instructions. For
promon, you need to
first set this up on your server, then option 8 to kill a
session. I
believe the instructions for setting up promon are part of
the Vantage
install guides - if not I know I've found them in the past
by searching the
vantage answerbook. You can also end user sessions
directly from Vantage on
the server only through "System Management" ->
"Utilities" -> "Connected
User" -> "Disconnect"...
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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* To visit your group on the web, go to:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/>
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<mailto:vantage-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscr
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
Note: You must have already linked your email address to a
yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies',
please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
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c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:44:50 -0700
From: Lydia Coffman <lcoffman@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Shirley,
If it would help, I'm sure that our material manager would discuss this
with
him. He has seven years of Vantage.
My comment (with almost 10 years of Vantage experience, two
implementations
of Vantage and 15 years of other software support under my belt) is this
(And I know you all know this already):
The purpose of the job is to show a roadmap of how to create a top
assembly
part. During the manufacturing process, many materials and detail parts
may
have to be bought/manufactured to create that top assembly. As someone
else
said, Vantage keeps complete track of where you are on every job, which
materials and details are required, which have already been issued, how
much
longer it will take to complete and ship. Changing the part number on
every
operation is just going to muddy the water. If you are building a tuna
sandwich (one of my favorite examples), it takes bread, tuna, relish,
mayo,
onion, garlic, tomato and lettuce. If you slice the tomato, it is still
a
tomato, and still a component of the sandwich.
There are exceptions--for example if raw material is sent out for braze
prior to being put on the mill, we bring it in with a different part
number,
since it has been altered. We do this because the material might sit
somewhere in a lot before being issued to a multitude of other jobs. In
the
sandwich example, bread with mayo is still going to be with the original
traveler, waiting for tuna and so on so we don't call it braymo, it just
moves with all the other parts to the assembly area.
Sorry, people who try to make a complex process complicated for their
own
agendas should seriously not be allowed to drive software.
Lydia
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:46:55 -0700
From: "Susan Iverson" <siverson@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
His idea is ludicrous. Management always has a problem hearing a woman
over a man - or at least, that has been "my" experience. You need to
take some time and prepare a statement, in writing. If that does not
work, just forget it and don't sulk. Your time will come and they will
know you advised against it.
Good luck.
Sue
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:46:52 -0400
From: sarah.vareschi@...
Subject: RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Did you try searching the epicor eportal answerbook? I know I've gotten
them from there before.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Conrad, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Thanks for the responses.
Now, what is the syntax for my database name in Promon?
I've tried UNC and IP:port with no luck.
Are there instructions for this utility somewhere?
I'm stuck at the front door.
Please help.
Thanks,
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
919.956.4303
Firstmark Aerospace
Durham, NC
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From: sarah.vareschi@...
[mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
There are 2 different utilities we use depending on the
type of hung
session. There's PROMON and also the SYSUSR52.R utility
(this is the name
for 5.2 which we are still on). For the sysusr program,
you have to call
support to get it and it comes with instructions. For
promon, you need to
first set this up on your server, then option 8 to kill a
session. I
believe the instructions for setting up promon are part of
the Vantage
install guides - if not I know I've found them in the past
by searching the
vantage answerbook. You can also end user sessions
directly from Vantage on
the server only through "System Management" ->
"Utilities" -> "Connected
User" -> "Disconnect"...
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:44:59 -0400
From: "Mark Dupuis" <dupuism@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Actually they don't listen to men either.
Mark
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
Susan Iverson
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
His idea is ludicrous. Management always has a problem hearing a woman
over a man - or at least, that has been "my" experience. You need to
take some time and prepare a statement, in writing. If that does not
work, just forget it and don't sulk. Your time will come and they will
know you advised against it.
Good luck.
Sue
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:52:28 EDT
From: jeremyrleonard@...
Subject: Re: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
I think you need to show them the side of Mistress Shirley they don't
normally see... Break the wip out... <old joke>
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:54:37 -0700
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Side B is definitely the way to go.
Unless, the purpose is to complicate the process to such a degree that
no beneficial information can be gleaned, no one will understand
anything, so they will blame Vantage and start looking for a new ERP
system. If that's the desired end result. Then by all means go A!
One thing to consider would be to set up a test database with scenario A
and have them run through a typical part. After they see all the
transactions and parts that they will have to add they should be able to
figure out for themselves that option A is system suicide.
Good Luck!
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Shirley Graver
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:55:19 -0400
From: sarah.vareschi@...
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If I were you I would ask him what specific information he is trying to
get
for each operation and then show him how easy it will be to get it
without
changing part# at each step. To be honest, I wouldn't even know how to
go
about doing that, I don't think Vantage is even set up for that. If you
show him that he can get what he needs without doing that extra work, he
should (hopefully) buy in.
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:58:25 -0400
From: "Michelle de la Vega" <mdelavega@...>
Subject: RE: Going Multiplant
We are currently multi-plant and multi company.
Multi-plant works pretty well. Multi company has a few glitches at this
time.
If there is anything you want to know about multi-plant just let me
know.
HTH
Michelle de la Vega
Business Applications Manager
Cold Jet, LLC
513-831-3211 ext 400
513-831-1209 fax
www.ColdJet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of mansfield1024
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Going Multiplant
Hi Everyone,
We are considering another location in Wisconsin.
What do I want to know about multi plant?
What suggestions do you have?
Who is currently multi plant on version 6.1?
Thanks,
John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x14
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:57:49 -0700
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Sarah is correct in that Vantage really isn't set up for this. In
essence you would have a job for each operation.
Would not be fun...
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of sarah.vareschi@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:55 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If I were you I would ask him what specific information he is trying to
get
for each operation and then show him how easy it will be to get it
without
changing part# at each step. To be honest, I wouldn't even know how to
go
about doing that, I don't think Vantage is even set up for that. If you
show him that he can get what he needs without doing that extra work, he
should (hopefully) buy in.
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:59:07 -0500
From: "Todd Caughey" <caugheyt@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
For purely WIP it would be relatively easy with RB (or Crystal) to watch
the costs at various levels. I guess my first question though on a
part numbering scheme would be whether the sub-assembly parts are ever
put into stock for later final assembly or if they would ever be sold as
repair/replacement parts. If neither of these situations apply then
there would be no need for seperate part numbers at all. The added
complexity would have no benefit.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:01:21 -0700
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
Subject: RE: Going Multiplant
Michelle,
We tried to go Multi-company and found some glitches as well. Would you
care to share off list? We're thinking of moving in this direction
again and I'm curious to see if these are the same or new glitches.
Thanks,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Michelle de la Vega
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Going Multiplant
We are currently multi-plant and multi company.
Multi-plant works pretty well. Multi company has a few glitches at this
time.
If there is anything you want to know about multi-plant just let me
know.
HTH
Michelle de la Vega
Business Applications Manager
Cold Jet, LLC
513-831-3211 ext 400
513-831-1209 fax
www.ColdJet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of mansfield1024
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Going Multiplant
Hi Everyone,
We are considering another location in Wisconsin.
What do I want to know about multi plant?
What suggestions do you have?
Who is currently multi plant on version 6.1?
Thanks,
John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x14
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:03:29 -0500
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
the busy-work would be unimaginable. It makes me ill to think of it. I
can
only see chaos and clogged processes.
I would quit. No one would be pleased. Grouchy people everywhere.
Your production staff can't buy into this can they?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Sarah is correct in that Vantage really isn't set up for this. In
essence
you would have a job for each operation.
Would not be fun...
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of
sarah.vareschi@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:55 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If I were you I would ask him what specific information he is trying to
get
for each operation and then show him how easy it will be to get it
without
changing part# at each step. To be honest, I wouldn't even know how to
go
about doing that, I don't think Vantage is even set up for that. If you
show him that he can get what he needs without doing that extra work, he
should (hopefully) buy in.
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Digest Number 3285
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Shirley Graver" <shirleyg@...>
2. Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
From: "pzieve" <peterz@...>
3. RE: Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
From: "Ron LaHolt" <ron@...>
4. RE: Exporting Crystal Reports to Excel on TS
From: "Bruce Butler" <bbutler@...>
5. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
6. OT: Registry Cleaner
From: "Paul Lipham" <pml@...>
7. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
8. Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
9. Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
10. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
11. RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
From: "Conrad, Jeff" <jconrad@...>
12. Going Multiplant
From: "mansfield1024" <johnm@...>
13. RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
14. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: Lydia Coffman <lcoffman@...>
15. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Susan Iverson" <siverson@...>
16. RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
From: sarah.vareschi@...
17. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Mark Dupuis" <dupuism@...>
18. Re: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: jeremyrleonard@...
19. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
20. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: sarah.vareschi@...
21. RE: Going Multiplant
From: "Michelle de la Vega" <mdelavega@...>
22. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
23. RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Todd Caughey" <caugheyt@...>
24. RE: Going Multiplant
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
25. RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:51:25 -0400
From: "Shirley Graver" <shirleyg@...>
Subject: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:32:14 -0000
From: "pzieve" <peterz@...>
Subject: Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
Is there an easy way to find the difference between the Production
Detail Report for a specific job and the Inventory/WIP Account
reconciliation for the same job? Mine is off and Vantage posted the
amount on the Production detail report as a credit when I closed the
job. This posting has created the WIP-Material GL off.
Thanks for any help.
Carol
Electroimpact, INC
carols@...
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:36:21 -0500
From: "Ron LaHolt" <ron@...>
Subject: RE: Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded on GL
If you are on version 6.1 you can run an inventory wip reconciliation
report by job, otherwise, you will have to have to run the entire report
for the period of time the job was open & look for the entries that
apply. Most likely the differences will be in a variance account you
designated in your account set-up.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of pzieve
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 4:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Material Costs for job is greater than costs recorded
on GL
Is there an easy way to find the difference between the Production
Detail Report for a specific job and the Inventory/WIP Account
reconciliation for the same job? Mine is off and Vantage posted the
amount on the Production detail report as a credit when I closed the
job. This posting has created the WIP-Material GL off.
Thanks for any help.
Carol
Electroimpact, INC
carols@...
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:56:53 -0400
From: "Bruce Butler" <bbutler@...>
Subject: RE: Exporting Crystal Reports to Excel on TS
I have had the same experience. Since I am the only user using this, I
have not tried to track it down. I assumed it was a problem with my
install. Evidently not.
Bruce Butler
IT Manager
Knappe & Koester
bbutler@...
Message: 16
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:26:06 -0400
From: "Michelle de la Vega" <mdelavega@...>
Subject: Exporting Crystal Reports to Excel on TS
I have complied many crystal reports and my users are able to run them
from Vantage and export to Excel without any problems. However, my
Terminal Server users are not able to export to excel. Has anyone run
into this before?
TIA
Michelle de la Vega
Business Applications Manager
Cold Jet, LLC
513-831-3211 ext 400
513-831-1209 fax
www.ColdJet.com
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:18:16 -0500
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Hi Shirley,
I'm pretty sure Side B is the way to go. the other thing is that each
material on the jobs can be directly assigned to a specific operation.
in
that way you can be sure exactly what is being used and at which point
in
the overall process.
I think side A would drive you all crazy. It's a lot of extra work,
and my
opinion would be that it would all be needless. Vantage does the work
already.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:02:31 -0500
From: "Paul Lipham" <pml@...>
Subject: OT: Registry Cleaner
I'm looking for a registry cleaner for Windows 2000 pro and XP pro.
I downloaded Registry Mechanic trial and did a scan, which found 200
problems on my desktop computer, but was scared to let it repair
anything.
Has anyone found a good reliable registry cleaner? Anyone gotten bitten
by
one?
Best Regards,
Paul Lipham
Information Systems Manager
Alabama Specialty Products, Inc.
256-358-4202
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:11:50 -0500
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If you were looking to poll people's opinions on this, I
ditto Rhonda.
M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Sherer, Rhonda
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:18 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Hi Shirley,
I'm pretty sure Side B is the way to go. the other thing
is that each
material on the jobs can be directly assigned to a
specific operation. in
that way you can be sure exactly what is being used and at
which point in
the overall process.
I think side A would drive you all crazy. It's a lot of
extra work, and my
opinion would be that it would all be needless. Vantage
does the work
already.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job
Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job
operations are the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job
step so that WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves
to operation 2 it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes
part ABC3 and so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number
in the part master
for each process step, so that materials management will
know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is
unnecessary because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each
process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the
process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way
to determine how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are
the ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:15:59 -0000
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
Subject: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:15:45 -0000
From: "shirleygraver" <shirleyg@...>
Subject: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:21:21 -0500
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
You know, Shirley, you could always give him a test database
to show why his reasoning is just too cumbersome.
Then show how your reasoning makes more sense.
I've done this enough times in the past to show Management
the error of their ways.
Just a thought......
M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of shirleygraver
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new
materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided
that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem
to be hearing
me.
Shirley
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
Note: You must have already linked your email address to a
yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies',
please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:43:18 -0400
From: "Conrad, Jeff" <jconrad@...>
Subject: RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Thanks for the responses.
Now, what is the syntax for my database name in Promon?
I've tried UNC and IP:port with no luck.
Are there instructions for this utility somewhere?
I'm stuck at the front door.
Please help.
Thanks,
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
919.956.4303
Firstmark Aerospace
Durham, NC
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From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
There are 2 different utilities we use depending on the type of hung
session. There's PROMON and also the SYSUSR52.R utility (this is the
name
for 5.2 which we are still on). For the sysusr program, you have to
call
support to get it and it comes with instructions. For promon, you need
to
first set this up on your server, then option 8 to kill a session. I
believe the instructions for setting up promon are part of the Vantage
install guides - if not I know I've found them in the past by searching
the
vantage answerbook. You can also end user sessions directly from
Vantage on
the server only through "System Management" -> "Utilities" -> "Connected
User" -> "Disconnect"...
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:43:11 -0000
From: "mansfield1024" <johnm@...>
Subject: Going Multiplant
Hi Everyone,
We are considering another location in Wisconsin.
What do I want to know about multi plant?
What suggestions do you have?
Who is currently multi plant on version 6.1?
Thanks,
John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x14
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:45:07 -0500
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
These are either in the Vantage instructions when you first
loaded Vantage on your server, or in the mfgbkup.txt file
located in the mfgsys61 directory (towards the bottom).
Just don't remember which one.
I remember it being incredible easy to setup (just pointing
the file to the right path).
HTH,
M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x 272
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Conrad, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Thanks for the responses.
Now, what is the syntax for my database name in Promon?
I've tried UNC and IP:port with no luck.
Are there instructions for this utility somewhere?
I'm stuck at the front door.
Please help.
Thanks,
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
919.956.4303
Firstmark Aerospace
Durham, NC
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From: sarah.vareschi@...
[mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
There are 2 different utilities we use depending on the
type of hung
session. There's PROMON and also the SYSUSR52.R utility
(this is the name
for 5.2 which we are still on). For the sysusr program,
you have to call
support to get it and it comes with instructions. For
promon, you need to
first set this up on your server, then option 8 to kill a
session. I
believe the instructions for setting up promon are part of
the Vantage
install guides - if not I know I've found them in the past
by searching the
vantage answerbook. You can also end user sessions
directly from Vantage on
the server only through "System Management" ->
"Utilities" -> "Connected
User" -> "Disconnect"...
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:44:50 -0700
From: Lydia Coffman <lcoffman@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Shirley,
If it would help, I'm sure that our material manager would discuss this
with
him. He has seven years of Vantage.
My comment (with almost 10 years of Vantage experience, two
implementations
of Vantage and 15 years of other software support under my belt) is this
(And I know you all know this already):
The purpose of the job is to show a roadmap of how to create a top
assembly
part. During the manufacturing process, many materials and detail parts
may
have to be bought/manufactured to create that top assembly. As someone
else
said, Vantage keeps complete track of where you are on every job, which
materials and details are required, which have already been issued, how
much
longer it will take to complete and ship. Changing the part number on
every
operation is just going to muddy the water. If you are building a tuna
sandwich (one of my favorite examples), it takes bread, tuna, relish,
mayo,
onion, garlic, tomato and lettuce. If you slice the tomato, it is still
a
tomato, and still a component of the sandwich.
There are exceptions--for example if raw material is sent out for braze
prior to being put on the mill, we bring it in with a different part
number,
since it has been altered. We do this because the material might sit
somewhere in a lot before being issued to a multitude of other jobs. In
the
sandwich example, bread with mayo is still going to be with the original
traveler, waiting for tuna and so on so we don't call it braymo, it just
moves with all the other parts to the assembly area.
Sorry, people who try to make a complex process complicated for their
own
agendas should seriously not be allowed to drive software.
Lydia
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:46:55 -0700
From: "Susan Iverson" <siverson@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
His idea is ludicrous. Management always has a problem hearing a woman
over a man - or at least, that has been "my" experience. You need to
take some time and prepare a statement, in writing. If that does not
work, just forget it and don't sulk. Your time will come and they will
know you advised against it.
Good luck.
Sue
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:46:52 -0400
From: sarah.vareschi@...
Subject: RE: Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Did you try searching the epicor eportal answerbook? I know I've gotten
them from there before.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Conrad, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
Thanks for the responses.
Now, what is the syntax for my database name in Promon?
I've tried UNC and IP:port with no luck.
Are there instructions for this utility somewhere?
I'm stuck at the front door.
Please help.
Thanks,
Jeff Conrad
IS Analyst
919.956.4303
Firstmark Aerospace
Durham, NC
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From: sarah.vareschi@...
[mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hung or idle Vantage sessions
There are 2 different utilities we use depending on the
type of hung
session. There's PROMON and also the SYSUSR52.R utility
(this is the name
for 5.2 which we are still on). For the sysusr program,
you have to call
support to get it and it comes with instructions. For
promon, you need to
first set this up on your server, then option 8 to kill a
session. I
believe the instructions for setting up promon are part of
the Vantage
install guides - if not I know I've found them in the past
by searching the
vantage answerbook. You can also end user sessions
directly from Vantage on
the server only through "System Management" ->
"Utilities" -> "Connected
User" -> "Disconnect"...
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:44:59 -0400
From: "Mark Dupuis" <dupuism@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Actually they don't listen to men either.
Mark
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
Susan Iverson
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
His idea is ludicrous. Management always has a problem hearing a woman
over a man - or at least, that has been "my" experience. You need to
take some time and prepare a statement, in writing. If that does not
work, just forget it and don't sulk. Your time will come and they will
know you advised against it.
Good luck.
Sue
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:52:28 EDT
From: jeremyrleonard@...
Subject: Re: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
I think you need to show them the side of Mistress Shirley they don't
normally see... Break the wip out... <old joke>
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:54:37 -0700
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Side B is definitely the way to go.
Unless, the purpose is to complicate the process to such a degree that
no beneficial information can be gleaned, no one will understand
anything, so they will blame Vantage and start looking for a new ERP
system. If that's the desired end result. Then by all means go A!
One thing to consider would be to set up a test database with scenario A
and have them run through a typical part. After they see all the
transactions and parts that they will have to add they should be able to
figure out for themselves that option A is system suicide.
Good Luck!
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Shirley Graver
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:55:19 -0400
From: sarah.vareschi@...
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If I were you I would ask him what specific information he is trying to
get
for each operation and then show him how easy it will be to get it
without
changing part# at each step. To be honest, I wouldn't even know how to
go
about doing that, I don't think Vantage is even set up for that. If you
show him that he can get what he needs without doing that extra work, he
should (hopefully) buy in.
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:58:25 -0400
From: "Michelle de la Vega" <mdelavega@...>
Subject: RE: Going Multiplant
We are currently multi-plant and multi company.
Multi-plant works pretty well. Multi company has a few glitches at this
time.
If there is anything you want to know about multi-plant just let me
know.
HTH
Michelle de la Vega
Business Applications Manager
Cold Jet, LLC
513-831-3211 ext 400
513-831-1209 fax
www.ColdJet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of mansfield1024
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Going Multiplant
Hi Everyone,
We are considering another location in Wisconsin.
What do I want to know about multi plant?
What suggestions do you have?
Who is currently multi plant on version 6.1?
Thanks,
John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x14
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:57:49 -0700
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Sarah is correct in that Vantage really isn't set up for this. In
essence you would have a job for each operation.
Would not be fun...
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of sarah.vareschi@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:55 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If I were you I would ask him what specific information he is trying to
get
for each operation and then show him how easy it will be to get it
without
changing part# at each step. To be honest, I wouldn't even know how to
go
about doing that, I don't think Vantage is even set up for that. If you
show him that he can get what he needs without doing that extra work, he
should (hopefully) buy in.
-----Original Message-----
From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:59:07 -0500
From: "Todd Caughey" <caugheyt@...>
Subject: RE: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
For purely WIP it would be relatively easy with RB (or Crystal) to watch
the costs at various levels. I guess my first question though on a
part numbering scheme would be whether the sub-assembly parts are ever
put into stock for later final assembly or if they would ever be sold as
repair/replacement parts. If neither of these situations apply then
there would be no need for seperate part numbers at all. The added
complexity would have no benefit.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
We are having a philosophical discussion regarding Job Setups and Bills.
Conditions: 1 or 2 level bills are the norm, 3 to 4 job operations are
the
norm, Version 5.0
Side A:
Says that a part number needs to be created for each job step so that
WIP
amounts processed can be tracked. IE; as part abc1 moves to operation 2
it
becomes part abc2, as it moves to operation 3 it becomes part ABC3 and
so
on. This will necessitate the creation of a part number in the part
master
for each process step, so that materials management will know how much
material is in each step.
Side B:
Says that creating part numbers for each process step is unnecessary
because
Vantage will know through WIP reports how much is in each process step.
Creating additional part numbers will only complicate the process.
Which side is the most appropriate? What is the best way to determine
how
much material is sitting at each process step? What are the
ramifications
of creating part numbers for each process step?
Thanks
Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates Inc.
Tracking #: B2B6D53CD6228A42B4BB93244CD2DFBCE38E4516
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:01:21 -0700
From: "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...>
Subject: RE: Going Multiplant
Michelle,
We tried to go Multi-company and found some glitches as well. Would you
care to share off list? We're thinking of moving in this direction
again and I'm curious to see if these are the same or new glitches.
Thanks,
Mike
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Michelle de la Vega
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Going Multiplant
We are currently multi-plant and multi company.
Multi-plant works pretty well. Multi company has a few glitches at this
time.
If there is anything you want to know about multi-plant just let me
know.
HTH
Michelle de la Vega
Business Applications Manager
Cold Jet, LLC
513-831-3211 ext 400
513-831-1209 fax
www.ColdJet.com
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of mansfield1024
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:43 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Going Multiplant
Hi Everyone,
We are considering another location in Wisconsin.
What do I want to know about multi plant?
What suggestions do you have?
Who is currently multi plant on version 6.1?
Thanks,
John Mansfield
General Sheet Metal
574 288 0611 x14
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:03:29 -0500
From: "Sherer, Rhonda" <rhonda@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
the busy-work would be unimaginable. It makes me ill to think of it. I
can
only see chaos and clogged processes.
I would quit. No one would be pleased. Grouchy people everywhere.
Your production staff can't buy into this can they?
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From: Mike Lowe [mailto:MLowe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Sarah is correct in that Vantage really isn't set up for this. In
essence
you would have a job for each operation.
Would not be fun...
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sarah.vareschi@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:55 AM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
If I were you I would ask him what specific information he is trying to
get
for each operation and then show him how easy it will be to get it
without
changing part# at each step. To be honest, I wouldn't even know how to
go
about doing that, I don't think Vantage is even set up for that. If you
show him that he can get what he needs without doing that extra work, he
should (hopefully) buy in.
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From: shirleygraver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Soliciting Comments on Job Setup
Yes, I am trying to poll other uses. I have a new materials manager
that has limited my input in this area and has decided that after 6
months he knows Vantage better. Management does not seem to be hearing
me.
Shirley
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