Well don't. Because if you turn them on you will have major
problems.

Darren Mann wrote:

>
> NO
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:20 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
> >
> >
> > Are you using shop warnings?
> >
> > Darren Mann wrote:
> > >
> > > We are using data collection and experiencing no problems
> > with that program
> > > that didn't exist in v4. We do not use terminal services,
> > thus that may be
> > > the key.
> > >
> > > There are, however, many other problems within v5 that may
> > push many of you
> > > to wait. During month end proceedings we have found
> > numerous problems
> > > relating to job cost and WIP transactions. Credit memos
> > for an invoice that
> > > is linked to a sales order listing multiple items which are
> > manufactured
> > > using different jobs resulted in the credit memo being
> > posted to all jobs on
> > > that sales order.
> > >
> > > Some of the other costing problems have been repaired in
> > the latest patch
> > > .308.
> > >
> > > One major problem that still has not been resolved relates
> > to the movement
> > > of WIP to VAR and the relation when using make-to-inventory
> > items and auto
> > > receive to inventory. We have huge variances that appeared
> > after posting
> > > WIP. It appears to almost ignore any receipts to inventory
> > through the jobs
> > > shop run and created multiple lines in the WIP recon report
> > for the same
> > > job, same date, and for sums close to the total job cost.
> > It has caused
> > > understated aver cost values on the parts in inventory and
> > thus any invoices
> > > would contain the wrong cost. Quite a far reaching bug
> > when you stop to
> > > think of it.
> > >
> > > Bottom line - be careful when upgrading. Side effects can getcha.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Darren Mann
> > > Miller Products Co.

Yes, please elaborate. Are you speaking from current anger only? Have you
talked to support? I'm asking because our plan is to upgrade in one month
and I'm very concerned.

Thanks!

Rick Gors
MR/MMIS
Osco

Joe Konecny wrote:

> If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> doesn't work. There is no fix available!
>
>
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> vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Our deepest sympathies and condolences go out to you. I can only imagine
the terrible ordeal you are going through.

Shirley Graver
(End User)
Sys Admin
Rubber associates Inc.
Cleveland/Akron

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:22 PM
To: Vantage List
Subject: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!

If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
that is totally dependant on data collection and it
doesn't work. There is no fix available!

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I'm definately angry. I'm posting this so that others
don't get burned though. I've talked to 5-6 people from
epicor and another user with the same problem. I like
vantage and I want to use v5 but we're really screwed
right now. Here's an scr# that is from another user:

SCR1691

Rick Gors wrote:

>
> Yes, please elaborate. Are you speaking from current anger only? Have you
> talked to support? I'm asking because our plan is to upgrade in one month
> and I'm very concerned.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rick Gors
> MR/MMIS
> Osco
>
> Joe Konecny wrote:
>
> > If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> > version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> > that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> > that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> > doesn't work. There is no fix available!
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Machines apparently get stuck in loops when starting
or ending direct labor activities. This makes our
terminal server go to 100% cpu utilization and then
other terminals start dropping from the network.

Erica Steffens wrote:

>
> What about it doesn't work?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:22 PM
> To: Vantage List
> Subject: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
>
> If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> doesn't work. There is no fix available!
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
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Thank you all. Unfortunatly we have learned from your misery. I'm assuming
this only applies to Labor Collection through data terminals. We still use
manual labor tickets.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:51 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!

I'm definately angry. I'm posting this so that others
don't get burned though. I've talked to 5-6 people from
epicor and another user with the same problem. I like
vantage and I want to use v5 but we're really screwed
right now. Here's an scr# that is from another user:

SCR1691

Rick Gors wrote:

>
> Yes, please elaborate. Are you speaking from current anger only? Have

you

> talked to support? I'm asking because our plan is to upgrade in one month
> and I'm very concerned.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rick Gors
> MR/MMIS
> Osco
>
> Joe Konecny wrote:
>
> > If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> > version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> > that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> > that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> > doesn't work. There is no fix available!
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Correct assumption.

"Trzaska, Mark" wrote:

>
> Thank you all. Unfortunatly we have learned from your misery. I'm assuming
> this only applies to Labor Collection through data terminals. We still use
> manual labor tickets.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
>
> I'm definately angry. I'm posting this so that others
> don't get burned though. I've talked to 5-6 people from
> epicor and another user with the same problem. I like
> vantage and I want to use v5 but we're really screwed
> right now. Here's an scr# that is from another user:
>
> SCR1691
>
> Rick Gors wrote:
> >
> > Yes, please elaborate. Are you speaking from current anger only? Have
> you
> > talked to support? I'm asking because our plan is to upgrade in one month
> > and I'm very concerned.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Rick Gors
> > MR/MMIS
> > Osco
> >
> > Joe Konecny wrote:
> >
> > > If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> > > version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> > > that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> > > that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> > > doesn't work. There is no fix available!
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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Joe:

Is this all data collection stations? TT5? Or are these remote, using
terminal services? Or have I assumed too far? Under any circumstances,
this is a big problem. And it inhales with great force.

Lydia

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!

Correct assumption.

"Trzaska, Mark" wrote:

>
> Thank you all. Unfortunatly we have learned from your misery. I'm assuming
> this only applies to Labor Collection through data terminals. We still use
> manual labor tickets.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
>
> I'm definately angry. I'm posting this so that others
> don't get burned though. I've talked to 5-6 people from
> epicor and another user with the same problem. I like
> vantage and I want to use v5 but we're really screwed
> right now. Here's an scr# that is from another user:
>
> SCR1691
>
> Rick Gors wrote:
> >
> > Yes, please elaborate. Are you speaking from current anger only? Have
> you
> > talked to support? I'm asking because our plan is to upgrade in one

month

> > and I'm very concerned.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Rick Gors
> > MR/MMIS
> > Osco
> >
> > Joe Konecny wrote:
> >
> > > If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> > > version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> > > that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> > > that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> > > doesn't work. There is no fix available!
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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C'mon epicor beta test beta test beta test. I have always said that one
downside to the internet and all these high speed connections is that
software is released way to early. Now all you have to do is d/l a patch.
Think of the money the software companies are saving buy releasing there
product ASAP. 10-15 years ago we didn't have it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [mailto:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:19 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!

Joe:

Is this all data collection stations? TT5? Or are these remote, using
terminal services? Or have I assumed too far? Under any circumstances,
this is a big problem. And it inhales with great force.

Lydia

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!

Correct assumption.

"Trzaska, Mark" wrote:

>
> Thank you all. Unfortunatly we have learned from your misery. I'm assuming
> this only applies to Labor Collection through data terminals. We still use
> manual labor tickets.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
>
> I'm definately angry. I'm posting this so that others
> don't get burned though. I've talked to 5-6 people from
> epicor and another user with the same problem. I like
> vantage and I want to use v5 but we're really screwed
> right now. Here's an scr# that is from another user:
>
> SCR1691
>
> Rick Gors wrote:
> >
> > Yes, please elaborate. Are you speaking from current anger only? Have
> you
> > talked to support? I'm asking because our plan is to upgrade in one

month

> > and I'm very concerned.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Rick Gors
> > MR/MMIS
> > Osco
> >
> > Joe Konecny wrote:
> >
> > > If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> > > version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> > > that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> > > that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> > > doesn't work. There is no fix available!
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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I'm using Wyse winterms with Citrix metaframe on windows terminal
server. They are on the lan connected at 100Mbps.

Lydia Coffman wrote:

>
> Joe:
>
> Is this all data collection stations? TT5? Or are these remote, using
> terminal services? Or have I assumed too far? Under any circumstances,
> this is a big problem. And it inhales with great force.
>
> Lydia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:03 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
>
> Correct assumption.
>
> "Trzaska, Mark" wrote:
> >
> > Thank you all. Unfortunatly we have learned from your misery. I'm assuming
> > this only applies to Labor Collection through data terminals. We still use
> > manual labor tickets.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
> >
> > I'm definately angry. I'm posting this so that others
> > don't get burned though. I've talked to 5-6 people from
> > epicor and another user with the same problem. I like
> > vantage and I want to use v5 but we're really screwed
> > right now. Here's an scr# that is from another user:
> >
> > SCR1691
> >
> > Rick Gors wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, please elaborate. Are you speaking from current anger only? Have
> > you
> > > talked to support? I'm asking because our plan is to upgrade in one
> month
> > > and I'm very concerned.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Rick Gors
> > > MR/MMIS
> > > Osco
> > >
> > > Joe Konecny wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> > > > version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> > > > that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> > > > that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> > > > doesn't work. There is no fix available!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
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We are using data collection and experiencing no problems with that program
that didn't exist in v4. We do not use terminal services, thus that may be
the key.

There are, however, many other problems within v5 that may push many of you
to wait. During month end proceedings we have found numerous problems
relating to job cost and WIP transactions. Credit memos for an invoice that
is linked to a sales order listing multiple items which are manufactured
using different jobs resulted in the credit memo being posted to all jobs on
that sales order.

Some of the other costing problems have been repaired in the latest patch
.308.

One major problem that still has not been resolved relates to the movement
of WIP to VAR and the relation when using make-to-inventory items and auto
receive to inventory. We have huge variances that appeared after posting
WIP. It appears to almost ignore any receipts to inventory through the jobs
shop run and created multiple lines in the WIP recon report for the same
job, same date, and for sums close to the total job cost. It has caused
understated aver cost values on the parts in inventory and thus any invoices
would contain the wrong cost. Quite a far reaching bug when you stop to
think of it.

Bottom line - be careful when upgrading. Side effects can getcha.

Regards,

Darren Mann
Miller Products Co.

> > If you are using data collection at all do not convert to
> > version 5 of Vantage!!!!! There are major problems
> > that are not fixed! We are left right now with a shop
> > that is totally dependant on data collection and it
> > doesn't work. There is no fix available!
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > vantage-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
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Are you using shop warnings?

Darren Mann wrote:

>
> We are using data collection and experiencing no problems with that program
> that didn't exist in v4. We do not use terminal services, thus that may be
> the key.
>
> There are, however, many other problems within v5 that may push many of you
> to wait. During month end proceedings we have found numerous problems
> relating to job cost and WIP transactions. Credit memos for an invoice that
> is linked to a sales order listing multiple items which are manufactured
> using different jobs resulted in the credit memo being posted to all jobs on
> that sales order.
>
> Some of the other costing problems have been repaired in the latest patch
> .308.
>
> One major problem that still has not been resolved relates to the movement
> of WIP to VAR and the relation when using make-to-inventory items and auto
> receive to inventory. We have huge variances that appeared after posting
> WIP. It appears to almost ignore any receipts to inventory through the jobs
> shop run and created multiple lines in the WIP recon report for the same
> job, same date, and for sums close to the total job cost. It has caused
> understated aver cost values on the parts in inventory and thus any invoices
> would contain the wrong cost. Quite a far reaching bug when you stop to
> think of it.
>
> Bottom line - be careful when upgrading. Side effects can getcha.
>
> Regards,
>
> Darren Mann
> Miller Products Co.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Konecny [mailto:jkonecn@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:20 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] DO NOT CONVERT TO v5!!!!
>
>
> Are you using shop warnings?
>
> Darren Mann wrote:
> >
> > We are using data collection and experiencing no problems
> with that program
> > that didn't exist in v4. We do not use terminal services,
> thus that may be
> > the key.
> >
> > There are, however, many other problems within v5 that may
> push many of you
> > to wait. During month end proceedings we have found
> numerous problems
> > relating to job cost and WIP transactions. Credit memos
> for an invoice that
> > is linked to a sales order listing multiple items which are
> manufactured
> > using different jobs resulted in the credit memo being
> posted to all jobs on
> > that sales order.
> >
> > Some of the other costing problems have been repaired in
> the latest patch
> > .308.
> >
> > One major problem that still has not been resolved relates
> to the movement
> > of WIP to VAR and the relation when using make-to-inventory
> items and auto
> > receive to inventory. We have huge variances that appeared
> after posting
> > WIP. It appears to almost ignore any receipts to inventory
> through the jobs
> > shop run and created multiple lines in the WIP recon report
> for the same
> > job, same date, and for sums close to the total job cost.
> It has caused
> > understated aver cost values on the parts in inventory and
> thus any invoices
> > would contain the wrong cost. Quite a far reaching bug
> when you stop to
> > think of it.
> >
> > Bottom line - be careful when upgrading. Side effects can getcha.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Darren Mann
> > Miller Products Co.
>
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