# Does anyone ever negotiate with Epicor over their yearly maintenance fees for Public Cloud? **URL:** \ **Category:** Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 31, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/does-anyone-ever-negotiate-with-epicor-over-their-yearly-maintenance-fees-for-public-cloud/106639 "2023-08-31T18:14:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 10
**Author:** ![JasonMcD](https://www.epiusers.help/user_avatar/www.epiusers.help/jasonmcd/32/22326_2.png) [@JasonMcD](https://www.epiusers.help/u/JasonMcD)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/does-anyone-ever-negotiate-with-epicor-over-their-yearly-maintenance-fees-for-public-cloud/106639/10 "2023-09-01T13:21:05Z")
> [@JillMetalworks](#): > > Yes we are using UD40 Ah, rats. Well, then this would need to be rebuilt from scratch… which is a good idea in itself. So, here it is anyway. It’s ugly. It works. I would do it differently today. Really, all I need is for it to record the **max** users per hour per license type, overwriting when there is a new winner. But when I made this, I had no idea what the data would look like. And as it turns out, when it grabs the license data, it sometimes jumbles the order of them. So I made the BAQ to decode it all. The one oddity here is that I apparently pass in a GUID at the start. I built this off of a trace of the button in Company Config Tracker, so I guess it need that. ![image](https://www.epiusers.help/uploads/default/original/3X/6/2/62f4cdb28c4581105a0f11994ad0db5e3cc332fd.png) ![image](https://www.epiusers.help/uploads/default/original/3X/9/9/99ebe222d1b3e98232c6baec2e5c91a2db1008be.png) [LicenseUsage.efxb](https://www.epiusers.help/uploads/short-url/rFHUdOYRvU2Rf4olLo9vsKelCH8.efxb) (84.0 KB) [LicenseUsageLogCondensed.baq](https://www.epiusers.help/uploads/short-url/4zWHIISfcCc8HjRX8b72dwvrYMC.baq) (23.2 KB) And then graph it: > [@What would cause an MES User logged in to also consume a Full Epicor License?](https://www.epiusers.help/t/what-would-cause-an-mes-user-logged-in-to-also-consume-a-full-epicor-license/97379/11): > > I personally just made my own log, updated by an Epicor Function. You could easily throw an email in the Function, based on a condition. Also, I improved my Excel chart skills. Gradients! So, blue is default here. You see we typically have 10-15 default users. MES is red. On Wednesday (Jan 11) we hit our MES limit around 8 AM. Now this doesn’t “say” that after that, then MES people started consuming Default licenses. But I know it happened, because twice after that the blue hit… Also, that UD table gets mighty full after a few months. If I only needed 24 rows a day, it wouldn’t be so bad. Another reason for a redesign. --- _[View the full topic](https://www.epiusers.help/t/does-anyone-ever-negotiate-with-epicor-over-their-yearly-maintenance-fees-for-public-cloud/106639)._