Engineering Long Lead List

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We are 403 without MRP. We build electronics, so we have huge BOMs,
and some items are long lead times. We buy everything we can to
jobs. It's all government work, so we have to keep the costs on the
jobs as much as possible. If a new order comes in and we have not
finished the MOM yet, we can't order the long lead items to the job,
so we order them to stock and then transfer them to the jobs later.

-Peter
Symetrics Industries



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bpbuechler" <pbuechler@...> wrote:
>
> Mark - Are you referring to MRP?
>
> We too have 98% of our jobs that are make to order. We also have
> long lead times on raw materials. Additionally, our raw materials
> are custom order. So we do not have a whole lot of options.
>
> I would be excited to hear how others in the same boat with the
same
> scearnio purchase in Vantage...
>
> Thanks
> Patty Buechler
> UV Color, Inc.
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@> wrote:
> >
> > > We are a build to order shop and currently release a Long Lead
> List of
> > > parts to purchasing so they will be ready when the assembly is
> ready to
> > > be manufactured. At the time the Long Lead list is released the
> > > engineering is not complete. Does anyone have any experience on
> how to
> > > handle this in Vantage?
> >
> > This may be a good place for making a Master Production
Scheduling
> Entry. See
> > Production Management | Material Requirements | General
Operations.
> You can
> > set a date and quantity for a part and when an actual order
> arrives, it SHOULD
> > net out.
> >
> > Mark W.
> >
>
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Are there any Vantage users that are in the Plastic Injection Molding
business that would be willing to discuss operations and resources?
Just starting out on Vantage and would like to run a few ideas by
you. Please contact me either direct or through the group. Thank
you, Cindy
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We are a build to order shop and currently release a Long Lead List of
parts to purchasing so they will be ready when the assembly is ready to
be manufactured. At the time the Long Lead list is released the
engineering is not complete. Does anyone have any experience on how to
handle this in Vantage?



Thanks!



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> We are a build to order shop and currently release a Long Lead List of
> parts to purchasing so they will be ready when the assembly is ready to
> be manufactured. At the time the Long Lead list is released the
> engineering is not complete. Does anyone have any experience on how to
> handle this in Vantage?

This may be a good place for making a Master Production Scheduling Entry. See
Production Management | Material Requirements | General Operations. You can
set a date and quantity for a part and when an actual order arrives, it SHOULD
net out.

Mark W.
5
Mark - Are you referring to MRP?

We too have 98% of our jobs that are make to order. We also have
long lead times on raw materials. Additionally, our raw materials
are custom order. So we do not have a whole lot of options.

I would be excited to hear how others in the same boat with the same
scearnio purchase in Vantage...

Thanks
Patty Buechler
UV Color, Inc.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> > We are a build to order shop and currently release a Long Lead
List of
> > parts to purchasing so they will be ready when the assembly is
ready to
> > be manufactured. At the time the Long Lead list is released the
> > engineering is not complete. Does anyone have any experience on
how to
> > handle this in Vantage?
>
> This may be a good place for making a Master Production Scheduling
Entry. See
> Production Management | Material Requirements | General Operations.
You can
> set a date and quantity for a part and when an actual order
arrives, it SHOULD
> net out.
>
> Mark W.
>
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Hi Patty,

> Mark - Are you referring to MRP?

Well, yes and no. MRP does look at MPS entries and makes suggestions but you
must put them there manually.

Going back to the APICS body of knowledge, MPS is a way to help take the
nervousness out of your MRP runs. Different companies master plan differently.
A make-to-stock company takes many parts and makes few. If they set a Master
Plan at their end item level, MRP will schedule for that amount and not look
at real orders. As a Master Planner, YOU tell MRP what you want because you
know better.


--- <----- Make-to-stock companies Master Plan Here
/ \
/ \
/ \
---------

A make-to-order company takes few materials and makes many, many products.
They master plan at the raw material level. This way they can make sure that
they have all of the long lead time materials available for potential orders.
Again, the Master Planner has an idea of about how much raw materials to keep
on hand or knows that they are still engineering an order and want to get
materials in house.

---------
\ /
\ /
\ /
--- <----- Make-to-order companies Master Plan Here

A configure/assembly-to-order company takes parts and makes parts that can be
assembled into many, many products. They master plan at the subassembly level.
They have the same problems as the make-to-stock AND make-to-order companies.

---------
\ /
\ /
----- <----- Configure-to-order companies Master Plan Here
/ \
/ \
---------

> We too have 98% of our jobs that are make-to-order. We also have
> long lead times on raw materials. Additionally, our raw materials
> are custom order. So we do not have a whole lot of options.

As I understand Vantage, MRP will take the greater amount of the Master
Production Plan and Sales Order Demand. MPS looks like a FIRM order to MRP
because the Master Planner said "MAKE IT!" or "BUY IT!"

The other option, although I have not tried it, is Forecast Entry. Here MRP
will show demand due to forecasting. MRP still looks at the greater value of
forecast and sales order demand. Forecasts can be imported from a CSV file,
i.e. from Excel, and can be converted to MPS entries later on from the Actions
menu.

Try it out on your test database. It is meant to handle the very situation
that you and Dale have.

Mark W.
7
Mark;

In your last email...you went through the menu to navigate to
the "MPS"...but I am not seeing it. Is it a addon module of some
sort?

See Production Management | Material Requirements | General Operations

I am assuming this menu option is available only if you have
purchased MRP.

Thanks
Patty

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Patty,
>
> > Mark - Are you referring to MRP?
>
> Well, yes and no. MRP does look at MPS entries and makes
suggestions but you
> must put them there manually.
>
> Going back to the APICS body of knowledge, MPS is a way to help
take the
> nervousness out of your MRP runs. Different companies master plan
differently.
> A make-to-stock company takes many parts and makes few. If they set
a Master
> Plan at their end item level, MRP will schedule for that amount and
not look
> at real orders. As a Master Planner, YOU tell MRP what you want
because you
> know better.
>
>
> --- <----- Make-to-stock companies Master Plan Here
> / \
> / \
> / \
> ---------
>
> A make-to-order company takes few materials and makes many, many
products.
> They master plan at the raw material level. This way they can make
sure that
> they have all of the long lead time materials available for
potential orders.
> Again, the Master Planner has an idea of about how much raw
materials to keep
> on hand or knows that they are still engineering an order and want
to get
> materials in house.
>
> ---------
> \ /
> \ /
> \ /
> --- <----- Make-to-order companies Master Plan Here
>
> A configure/assembly-to-order company takes parts and makes parts
that can be
> assembled into many, many products. They master plan at the
subassembly level.
> They have the same problems as the make-to-stock AND make-to-order
companies.
>
> ---------
> \ /
> \ /
> ----- <----- Configure-to-order companies Master Plan Here
> / \
> / \
> ---------
>
> > We too have 98% of our jobs that are make-to-order. We also have
> > long lead times on raw materials. Additionally, our raw materials
> > are custom order. So we do not have a whole lot of options.
>
> As I understand Vantage, MRP will take the greater amount of the
Master
> Production Plan and Sales Order Demand. MPS looks like a FIRM order
to MRP
> because the Master Planner said "MAKE IT!" or "BUY IT!"
>
> The other option, although I have not tried it, is Forecast Entry.
Here MRP
> will show demand due to forecasting. MRP still looks at the greater
value of
> forecast and sales order demand. Forecasts can be imported from a
CSV file,
> i.e. from Excel, and can be converted to MPS entries later on from
the Actions
> menu.
>
> Try it out on your test database. It is meant to handle the very
situation
> that you and Dale have.
>
> Mark W.
>
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> In your last email...you went through the menu to navigate to
> the "MPS"...but I am not seeing it. Is it a addon module of some
> sort?
>
> See Production Management | Material Requirements | General Operations
>
> I am assuming this menu option is available only if you have
> purchased MRP.

Yes, that is correct.