Hi,
The field engineers need access to two other systems as well as
vantage. In terms of vantage they need access to
projects/jobs/transfer orders/part tracker. One part of my thinking
was that if we could use the epicor portal functionality with
sharepoint or another, that we could create a presentation layer for
all three systems for the field engineer to access.
I still need to do alot of thinking/investigation on this.
Thanks
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Edginton" <stephene@...>
wrote:
The field engineers need access to two other systems as well as
vantage. In terms of vantage they need access to
projects/jobs/transfer orders/part tracker. One part of my thinking
was that if we could use the epicor portal functionality with
sharepoint or another, that we could create a presentation layer for
all three systems for the field engineer to access.
I still need to do alot of thinking/investigation on this.
Thanks
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Edginton" <stephene@...>
wrote:
>client,
> What functionality do the field engineers require regarding vantage?
>
> What environment are they working in?
>
> What types of devices are you reviewing?
>
>
>
> Another option not really mentioned is writing you own mobile
>interface
> Windows mobile devices support .net compact framework and can
> to vantage.with
>
> You could interface to vantage or store xml locally to synchronize
> vantage when a connection is available or via attachment to anemail.
>email
>
>
> It could be as simple as a form on the mobile client that takes
> information stores it as an XML file and uploads it or sends to an
> address.process
>
> Service connect could monitor the directory or email address and
> the transactions into vantage.vantage
>
>
>
> Alternatively the mobile client, could establish a connection to
> via a VPN / Web Service HTTPSrequired.
>
> And communicate directly. It all depends on the functionality
>have to
>
>
> Due to the form factors when developing on a mobile device, you
> make compromises,support
>
> This is one of the difficulties that Epicor face when looking to
> mobile devices obvious when you look at the vantage HandHeld module.Behalf
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Of brychanwilliamsthere
> Sent: 13 August 2008 19:31
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Epicor Portal Use
>
>
>
> Thanks for the reply. My initial message was more ideas off the top
> of my head. We are looking at the terminal services stuff and
> handhelds for what I would call internal activities, work at our
> sites where we control connectivity. Unfortunately, the majority of
> sites we do not control nor have access to a wireless environment.
>
> Probably vpn would be too much on any mobile network , however
> are security concerns which force us back to vpn. I am afraid thatI
> don't know much about critix but we would be looking atapproximately
> 10 field engineers and a maximum of 5 actively using a solution.on
>
> I think it is one to ponder a bit more.
> Thanks again,
>
> Will update once I have done a bit more investigation.
>
> Apparently there will be a web client for v9....
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Robert Brown <robertb_versa@>
> wrote:
> >
> > If by 'handheld devices' you mean the latest generation of smart
> phones, any that are windows o/s based should be able to handle
> establishing the vpn connection. (Heck, my palm can establish a vpn
> connection - although it is of very little use.)
> >
> > Establishing a USABLE terminal server/citrix session (or a remote
> desktop connection) is the challenge.
> >
> > Vantage 8 apps are quite sensitive to the display hardware used
> the client. The limited displays (and pointer devices) on smartfor
> phones may render even a successful TS or RDC session effectively
> unusable.
> >
> > Wireless phone provider networks also doesn't typically provide
> blazing connection speeds. Even if the display issues aresurvivable,
> the connection speeds (and constantly changing latency of theconnectivity
> connections) aren't favorable for efficient use of vantage over a
> smart phone.
> >
> > What apps would your field engineers be using? Are you indeed
> referring to smart phones when you say 'hand held' devices?
> >
> > We use the Vantage apps written for wireless handhelds - but they
> are apps for internal operations only (labor activity, stockroom
> transactions, etc.,).
> >
> > I'm not sure handheld optimized apps exist for quoting, order
> entry, engineers WB and associated trackers, etc.,.
> >
> > Seems to me for the cost of internally developing custom Service
> Connect based apps (suitable for smart phones) you would be better
> off spending the money on the minimal laptops & wireless
> services needed to allow use of standard apps via TS or RDC overVPN.
> >use.
> >
> > I'm sure some of the sales pitch promoting Epicor 9 will center
> around support for smart phone based connectivity and application
> >promises
> > If v8 is any indication, the effective realization of such
> will likely lag the vapor-ware sale pitch by at least 2 years.and
> >
> > I'd ignore that hype until it is a proven reality and just spend
> the money on laptop hardware (and appropriate reliable, suitable
> connectivity services) where needed for now.
> >
> > (My 'two cents' opinion for what it is worth.)
> >
> > I'd be very interested in hearing about what you end up doing -
> how effective it proves to be.to
> >
> > (I'm sure we'll all be forced to deal with the perceived 'need'
> support this next wave of toys soon enough.)portal
> >
> > Rob Brown
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, brychanwilliams <brychanwilliams@> wrote:
> > From: brychanwilliams <brychanwilliams@>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Epicor Portal Use
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:06 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the replies and knowledge. We are looking at the
> ><kunal_vantage@ ...>
> > software to combine with our intranet and service connect to
> >
> > integrate with other applications. It looks for the field service
> >
> > activity if we can get a vpn connection then terminal services
> would
> >
> > be the way to go however. My concern is that the field engineers
> may
> >
> > not have pcs but handheld devices and displaying vantage standard
> >
> > screens may be problem?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Kunal Ganguly
> >desktop....no
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > terminal services on windows 2000 server is free so long the
> >
> > clients are windows 2000 and windows xp. Windows 2003 requires
> >
> > purchase of terminal server CALs.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > > Kunal
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> >
> > > From: Manasa Reddy <manasa@>
> >
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:56:27 PM
> >
> > > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor Portal Use
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > If you have a terminal server, then just use remote
> >yahoogroups .com]
> > extra
> >
> > > licenses required.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > M. Manasa Reddy
> >
> > > manasa@weldcoa. com
> >
> > > P:
> >
> > > F:
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> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@
> Onfield
> >
> > Behalf
> >
> > > Of brychanwilliams
> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:38 PM
> >
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
> >
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Epicor Portal Use
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > We are looking for remote access to vantage. Primarily for
> >information.
> > > engineers etc to access vantage and update relevant
> >software
> > > Initial idea is to use Epicor Portal inconjunction with a
> portable
> >
> > > device connected via vpn. I don't actually know if this is
> feasible
> >
> > or
> >
> > > not. Does anybody have any insights in using the Portal
> >job
> > and
> >
> > > using it to update Vantage. It seems like the tool to do the
> >
> > but
> >
> > > would welcome any realworld experiences.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > My understanding is that web licenses are required and service
> >
> > connect?
> >
> > > Is this true.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> >
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