APS is a hodgepodge of utilities, functionality that fails to meet any significant goals - and often has existing similar apps/functions co-existing within the suite that confuse users as to which to best make use of.
If they want to acquire truly powerful, successful traditional and lean scheduling toolsets, go out and buy Lilly, recode it to catch up with .NET 3 (8.03.4) and blow the market competitors away.
Mike Lowe <
MLowe@...> wrote: " Epicor would be wise to acquire a niche product with already
powerful finite scheduling and then roll it into the suite. They seen
to be taking the long, re-inventing the wheel' approach developing it
entirely internally (and many of the wheels are SQUARE). "
Didn't they do just that with the acquisition of APS? (or whatever the
company was called, I don't remember now)
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From:
vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Monte Tomerlin
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:56 AM
To:
vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Global Scheduling in 6.1
Terry - I am familiar with Lilly and there some aspects of Lilly
software which are better. But I will keep Vantage/VISTA v8 and I
would say the market place agrees. The v8 versions prior to .400 have
scheduling problems and I understand v8.03.400 fixes them. Personally
I find Vantage/VISTA scheduling does a remarkable job and it is easy
to use. Based on my experience which appears to be be different than
yours, it is the most powerful tool in the software. Sorry you have
not had the same experience - Monte Tomerlin
--- In
vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> We found consultant Terry Ellis to be by far the most knowledgabe
re V8.03 finite scheduling.
>
> I disagree heartily that Global Rescheduling is the single most
powerful tool in the software - but hope our in process upgrade to
8.03.4 corrects its numerous deficiencies.
>
> The lack of effective forward scheduling support (1970 basic
MRPII functionality) is laughable. Lack of support for move qty's (to
allow the next sequential OP to start after a predefined qty is
complete in the prior OP) is a joke (and the antithesis of lean/flow
virtual work cell scheduling). The ridiculously overcomplex Resource
Group, Resource, Calendar, Capability & Department structures
required to be developed and maintained in order to Std OPs to be
called out in Methods is just mindboggling considering they result in
so little functionality.
>
> The Profitkey (1980's developed) scheduler we currently use runs
circles around Vantage's capabilities. I suspect it's younger brother
(Lilly software - same man developed both) would also run rings
aorund it.
>
> Hopefully, .4 illiminates some of the huge current gaps. (I'll
know next week.)
>
> Epicor would be wise to acquire a niche product with already
powerful finite scheduling and then roll it into the suite. They seen
to be taking the long, re-inventing the wheel' approach developing it
entirely internally (and many of the wheels are SQUARE).
>
> Monte Tomerlin <mdtomerlin@...> wrote:
> Global Rescheduling is the single most powerful tool in
the software. I
> would encourage you to use it. We have upgraded to v8 and Global
> Scheduling was broken but it is supposed to be fixed in v8.03.400
just
> out. We are about to test. To launch finite scheduling you should
bring
> in a consultant. If you use a consultant, specifically ask how much
> experience they have with launching finite scheduling. It really
take
> someone with experience with scheduling.
>
> Monte Tomerlin
> Accratronics Seals
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Tim Clark" <tim.clark@> wrote:
> >
> > Good Morning:
> >
> > I'm still very new to Vantage and was wondering if anybody is
fuully
> > utilizing Global Scheduling in 6.1. If so what's the setup like
and
> > how well does it work?
> >
> > Tim Clark
> > Manager, Information Technology
> > General Sheet Metal Works
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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