Hi,
When reviewing Actual Hours in the Job Closing screen, we have noticed that the hours are not correct.
For example below, Op 20 shows 20.78 hours. However, when I review Job Tracker > Activity > Labour Transactions for this op:
Total Labour hours = 94.64
Total burden hours = 20.78
What could be causing the system to be capturing only burden hours and not labour?
Thanks for any help.
What is the labor reporting for that operation?
The Labour Reporting Method is ‘Time and Quantity’. The labour was reported via MES/Data Collection by clocking onto the operation.
Have you looked at the actual punches in Job Tracker or LaborDtl table? Maybe the employee had a $0 rate? That should not affect the hours, but maybe? I think you need to look at the details to figure this one out. Just looking at summaries is not going to get you there.
Yes, I had a look at the labour transactions. The Prod Labour rate is set correctly and the Burden rate is zero.
Strangely, the Actual Cost value in Job Closing is correct - i.e. it’s
None of the labour transactions are active or pending.
The production labor rate is only used for quoting and estimating. When an employee logs into an operation, their labor rate from their employee record is used.
Ah, correct.
Checked the labour rates on the employee records, those are all set too.
As I say, the ‘Total Act Cost’ is correct, which means the labour rate must be set correctly. What is showing incorrectly is Total Actual Hours.
I’ve checked in Job Entry/Tracker and Job Closing. All three screens show correct costs but incorrect hours.
When you checked the labor reporting, did you check the operation master or the operation on the job?
If I follow correctly, the actual Labor Detail records (BAQ) total the 94.4 hours as do the records that appear on the Job Activity screen. What do they show on the Production Detail Report? Is the Job Closing screen the only location where they aren’t 94.4?
Yes that is correct @bruce6s.
It looks like the Production Detail hours is also showing the burden hours in place of the Total Production Hours. It is showing 20.78 instead of 94.64.
Below shows the labour transactions against this operation and the column totals for Labour Hrs and Burden Hrs:
I’m not clear on why it actually captures burden hours / how it is calculating these hours. We don’t have burden rates set in the system and do not actively record burden hours when clocking onto operations.
The reason for the difference between burden and labor is that multiple people are clocking into the same operation. If you look at the top four labor transactions in your image, they add up to four hours for burden and each one of labor entries is four hours.
If the burden and labor hours should be the same change it on the resource group setting to Burden=Labor.
Nice Bruce!
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I’m not sure how to reply to this 
I guess there’s nice Bruce and evil Bruce, thankfully that’s the first I’ve seen of evil Bruce!
@LarsonSolutions Thanks!! That explains a lot.
Does this mean that, in future, hours would be reported as follows?
If we don’t want burden hours captured at all, is that possible?
Edit: Ah actually, I assume if I untick all of these options on the resource group, it won’t capture anything:
You can use your test environment to test what those do and print the production detail report and/or close the job and capture WIP to see what it does.
