Just curious.
We want to implement this as well but we have quite a few phantoms we'll
have to deal with first.
Just wondering what else you had to go through when you mentioned having
to restructure your BOMs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Kennedy
Manager, Information Systems
ST Inverter America
Cell: (832) 922-1364
Phone: (281) 506-3144
Fax: (281) 506-3101
"Frank Zeigafuse" <fzeigafuse@...>
08/30/2004 08:23 AM
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To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cc: "Denis Heayn" <dheayn@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
I will ask my bom guy, why.
Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: jim.kennedy@... [mailto:jim.kennedy@...]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 5:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
Frank,
Is this why you had to restructure your BOMs to use this feature?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Kennedy
Manager, Information Systems
ST Inverter America
Cell: (832) 922-1364
Phone: (281) 506-3144
Fax: (281) 506-3101
"Frank Zeigafuse" <fzeigafuse@...>
08/27/2004 03:54 PM
Please respond to vantage
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cc:
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
yes, this is true :(
Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: jim.kennedy@... [mailto:jim.kennedy@...]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
We have BOMs with phantom sub-assemblies in them. Vantage can't create a
Kanban job for any part with phantom sub-assemblies.
It's currently on the pending list as a software enhancement.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Kennedy
Manager, Information Systems
ST Inverter America
Cell: (832) 922-1364
Phone: (281) 506-3144
Fax: (281) 506-3101
"Frank Zeigafuse" <fzeigafuse@...>
08/27/2004 02:25 PM
Please respond to vantage
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cc:
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
we use 6.10.509
I know it has some limitations but we have changed yet again almost all of
our routings and boms to use kanban receipt.
Who said it didn't work? And what exactly doesn't work?
We tested it for a couple of weeks prior to cutting over, I suggest you do
the same. BOM's have to be set up a specific way.
Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: carl.heeder@... [mailto:carl.heeder@...]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 2:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
We are using 6.00.512 and have been told that Kanban receipt does not work
correctly.
Is this correct? It would save us a ton of work if we could implement it
for our finished
goods.
Frank mentioned that they are using it today. Under which version?
Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057
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We want to implement this as well but we have quite a few phantoms we'll
have to deal with first.
Just wondering what else you had to go through when you mentioned having
to restructure your BOMs.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Manager, Information Systems
ST Inverter America
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Phone: (281) 506-3144
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"Frank Zeigafuse" <fzeigafuse@...>
08/30/2004 08:23 AM
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To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cc: "Denis Heayn" <dheayn@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
I will ask my bom guy, why.
Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: jim.kennedy@... [mailto:jim.kennedy@...]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 5:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
Frank,
Is this why you had to restructure your BOMs to use this feature?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Kennedy
Manager, Information Systems
ST Inverter America
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08/27/2004 03:54 PM
Please respond to vantage
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cc:
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
yes, this is true :(
Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: jim.kennedy@... [mailto:jim.kennedy@...]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:31 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
We have BOMs with phantom sub-assemblies in them. Vantage can't create a
Kanban job for any part with phantom sub-assemblies.
It's currently on the pending list as a software enhancement.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Kennedy
Manager, Information Systems
ST Inverter America
Cell: (832) 922-1364
Phone: (281) 506-3144
Fax: (281) 506-3101
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08/27/2004 02:25 PM
Please respond to vantage
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cc:
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
we use 6.10.509
I know it has some limitations but we have changed yet again almost all of
our routings and boms to use kanban receipt.
Who said it didn't work? And what exactly doesn't work?
We tested it for a couple of weeks prior to cutting over, I suggest you do
the same. BOM's have to be set up a specific way.
Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: carl.heeder@... [mailto:carl.heeder@...]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 2:45 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] KANBAN - what does it do?
We are using 6.00.512 and have been told that Kanban receipt does not work
correctly.
Is this correct? It would save us a ton of work if we could implement it
for our finished
goods.
Frank mentioned that they are using it today. Under which version?
Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057
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