# Kinetics-BPM Logging-Trace Options Form for Classic Form **URL:** \ **Category:** Kinetic ERP\ **Created:** [May 31, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243 "2024-05-31T12:00:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ac8455/32.png) [@fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/u/fuji36)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243/1 "2024-05-31T12:00:26Z")
We are on Kinetics 2022.1.3 I know that previously, when we ran a trace from the Trace Options Form and selected ‘BPM Logging’ we could see which BPM’s ran, how long they took, etc. It seems that is no longer the case, we select it, but the BPM info is no longer part of the trace. ![trace_options_form](https://www.epiusers.help/uploads/default/original/3X/2/0/20bd29f317bec3f0e0145a2143894fdd3fd92d95.png) ---
**Author:** ![mbayley](https://www.epiusers.help/user_avatar/www.epiusers.help/mbayley/32/39029_2.png) [@mbayley](https://www.epiusers.help/u/mbayley)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243/2 "2024-05-31T14:26:12Z")
Are you attempting to trace a Classic App or the New Browser UX? ---
**Author:** ![fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ac8455/32.png) [@fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/u/fuji36)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243/3 "2024-05-31T14:29:53Z")
Classic App, for this particular screen/form we are running only Classic app/screen. ---
**Author:** ![mbayley](https://www.epiusers.help/user_avatar/www.epiusers.help/mbayley/32/39029_2.png) [@mbayley](https://www.epiusers.help/u/mbayley)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243/4 "2024-05-31T14:35:56Z")
Sorry, not familiar. I usually open the server logs for BPM Logs. ---
**Author:** ![fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ac8455/32.png) [@fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/u/fuji36)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243/5 "2024-05-31T16:50:17Z")
Hey Michael, thank you. I am not familiar with opening the server logs for that info. If you have a minute, can you screen shot and explain how that is done? I have always done it thru Client Trace form. ---
**Author:** ![mbayley](https://www.epiusers.help/user_avatar/www.epiusers.help/mbayley/32/39029_2.png) [@mbayley](https://www.epiusers.help/u/mbayley)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243/6 "2024-05-31T17:02:22Z")
BPMs are run on the server, so it’s always made sense for me to look for them there. You will have to enable tracing on the server, this is what ours looks like in Development. ![image](https://www.epiusers.help/uploads/default/original/3X/2/a/2a952bc2042e8bdeeab8ed754c0a79fdec59a0cd.png) Under Standard Logging, we have the BPM, BAQ, and Host Logging enabled. (this may look different depending on your version) Here’s what a log may look like ![image](https://www.epiusers.help/uploads/default/original/3X/2/1/2181e54ca116cbd0e1777a59fba55073cd4cf0c4.png) ---
**Author:** ![fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ac8455/32.png) [@fuji36](https://www.epiusers.help/u/fuji36)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://www.epiusers.help/t/kinetics-bpm-logging-trace-options-form-for-classic-form/115243/7 "2024-05-31T17:15:50Z")
Thank you Mbayley, I appreciate the help