Machine maintenance costs

very well stated Paul.

Deb Wilmoth
Controller
Reeder & Kline Machine Company, Inc.
Vantage 5.0


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Doutre [mailto:doutrep@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


The unplanned maintenance is calculated in our burden, by past years
verification of
maintenance costs overall. If the machine breaks down halt the operation as
to not
charge the job. This spreads costs out properly and does not inflate the
costs of the
production, if you use your history to build new quotes or different
configurations of
a product you may want accurate info. We verify burden each quarter to see
if the total
burden accumulated covers the fixed expenses, you may adjust burden rates at
that
time. Unless some very specific conditions exist ( IE customer pays time &
material and
he will pay the extra) I would not charge to the job.
----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Hoyt
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


Thank you Paul,
That is similar to how we are dealing with planned costs, but...

I just reread and realized I was unclear. The maintenance we are trying
to
assign is the "unplanned" maintenance. When someone has to stop a job
because a die broke, or a machine broke down...we are trying to define how
that is handled. Do we keep them punched into the job, a
maintenance/repair
job, indirect? Any thoughts on this portion of the cost?

Thanks again,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Doutre [mailto:doutrep@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


We have been using a burden labor rate setup in the work centers. The rate
is determined
by calculating all fixed expenses and divided by workable hours, covers
maintenance of machines, building includes heating electrical etc etc. you
may also calculate a contingency for purchase of new or replacement of
machines. This gets calculated on every job, spreading out the costs over
all

Paul Doutre
COGNICASE
Tél.: (514) 353-1020 Ex 329
Fax.: (514) 353-8709
Email: paul.doutre@...




----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Hoyt
To: 'Vantage E-Group (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


I was asked to check into how others assign their machine maintenance
costs.
For example, do you retain it within the job/setup, do you use indirect,
do
you set up a maintenance job? I guess the concern is not to inflate the
cost of a particular job for machines that may have incurred the need
for
repair over dozens of past jobs.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thank you,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>



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I was asked to check into how others assign their machine maintenance costs.
For example, do you retain it within the job/setup, do you use indirect, do
you set up a maintenance job? I guess the concern is not to inflate the
cost of a particular job for machines that may have incurred the need for
repair over dozens of past jobs.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thank you,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>
We have been using a burden labor rate setup in the work centers. The rate is determined
by calculating all fixed expenses and divided by workable hours, covers maintenance of machines, building includes heating electrical etc etc. you may also calculate a contingency for purchase of new or replacement of machines. This gets calculated on every job, spreading out the costs over all

Paul Doutre
COGNICASE
Tél.: (514) 353-1020 Ex 329
Fax.: (514) 353-8709
Email: paul.doutre@...




----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Hoyt
To: 'Vantage E-Group (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


I was asked to check into how others assign their machine maintenance costs.
For example, do you retain it within the job/setup, do you use indirect, do
you set up a maintenance job? I guess the concern is not to inflate the
cost of a particular job for machines that may have incurred the need for
repair over dozens of past jobs.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thank you,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>



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Thank you Paul,
That is similar to how we are dealing with planned costs, but...

I just reread and realized I was unclear. The maintenance we are trying to
assign is the "unplanned" maintenance. When someone has to stop a job
because a die broke, or a machine broke down...we are trying to define how
that is handled. Do we keep them punched into the job, a maintenance/repair
job, indirect? Any thoughts on this portion of the cost?

Thanks again,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Doutre [mailto:doutrep@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


We have been using a burden labor rate setup in the work centers. The rate
is determined
by calculating all fixed expenses and divided by workable hours, covers
maintenance of machines, building includes heating electrical etc etc. you
may also calculate a contingency for purchase of new or replacement of
machines. This gets calculated on every job, spreading out the costs over
all

Paul Doutre
COGNICASE
Tél.: (514) 353-1020 Ex 329
Fax.: (514) 353-8709
Email: paul.doutre@...




----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Hoyt
To: 'Vantage E-Group (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


I was asked to check into how others assign their machine maintenance
costs.
For example, do you retain it within the job/setup, do you use indirect,
do
you set up a maintenance job? I guess the concern is not to inflate the
cost of a particular job for machines that may have incurred the need for
repair over dozens of past jobs.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thank you,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>



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The unplanned maintenance is calculated in our burden, by past years verification of
maintenance costs overall. If the machine breaks down halt the operation as to not
charge the job. This spreads costs out properly and does not inflate the costs of the
production, if you use your history to build new quotes or different configurations of
a product you may want accurate info. We verify burden each quarter to see if the total
burden accumulated covers the fixed expenses, you may adjust burden rates at that
time. Unless some very specific conditions exist ( IE customer pays time & material and
he will pay the extra) I would not charge to the job.
----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Hoyt
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


Thank you Paul,
That is similar to how we are dealing with planned costs, but...

I just reread and realized I was unclear. The maintenance we are trying to
assign is the "unplanned" maintenance. When someone has to stop a job
because a die broke, or a machine broke down...we are trying to define how
that is handled. Do we keep them punched into the job, a maintenance/repair
job, indirect? Any thoughts on this portion of the cost?

Thanks again,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Doutre [mailto:doutrep@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


We have been using a burden labor rate setup in the work centers. The rate
is determined
by calculating all fixed expenses and divided by workable hours, covers
maintenance of machines, building includes heating electrical etc etc. you
may also calculate a contingency for purchase of new or replacement of
machines. This gets calculated on every job, spreading out the costs over
all

Paul Doutre
COGNICASE
Tél.: (514) 353-1020 Ex 329
Fax.: (514) 353-8709
Email: paul.doutre@...




----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Hoyt
To: 'Vantage E-Group (E-mail) ' (E-mail)
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Machine maintenance costs


I was asked to check into how others assign their machine maintenance
costs.
For example, do you retain it within the job/setup, do you use indirect,
do
you set up a maintenance job? I guess the concern is not to inflate the
cost of a particular job for machines that may have incurred the need for
repair over dozens of past jobs.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thank you,

Aaron Hoyt
Information Systems Manager
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
Charlestown, NH 03603
Tel 603-826-7744
<mailto:aaron.hoyt@...>



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