MES and "Lean"-ing Time and Attendance

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM, chris_robisch <bluewine@...> wrote:
> You don't need the Payroll module nor a UD field to add more Indirect Codes, like:
>
> Grief
> Holiday
> ...

All of my time seems to go towards Grief... ;-)
8.03.408B SQL



We don't own the Payroll module, and are finally getting around to
"embracing" MES. The first and biggest step is getting our arms around
time & attendance, which include timeclock activity (which we're
actually doing in a test database and looks like it's working okay), but
also paid time off tracking, overtime, etc.



Without the Payroll module, there doesn't appear to be any way to
track/manage paid time off. We don't think we want to buy another
module, and I'm wondering if we can come up with a 'good enough' 80%
solution that will meet our needs.



My thought is that we do the following:



- Normal daily timeclock activity happens via MES: employees
clock in and out, and (eventually will) report time against work orders,
etc. Right now we enter this all manually off of paper time cards
(hours worked + job labor).

- Paid Time Off (Sick, Vacation, Jury Duty, etc.) is reported
to supervisors out of band (probably via a paper card), who enter these
in Labor Entry and use a UD field to indicate which category (sick,
vacation, etc.)

- Supervisors review previous day's activity via LaborEdit (or
perhaps a custom report) and address any exceptions with employee.

- Accounting reviews data weekly and payroll data is exported
via a SQL query against LaborHed that summarizes as necessary for input
into our external payroll provider's system.



We currently keep track of each employee's paid time off via a
spreadsheet-based system, and I don't see that changing at least
immediately.



Have others tackled these issues and what kinds of issues have you run
into or solutions have you come up with?



-brian



--

Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /
Picometrix

bspolarich@...
<mailto:bspolarich@...> ~ 734-864-5618 ~
www.advancedphotonix.com <http://www.advancedphotonix.com>





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You don't need the Payroll module nor a UD field to add more Indirect Codes, like:

Grief
Holiday
Indirect
Jury
Sick
Vacation


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...> wrote:
>
> 8.03.408B SQL
>
>
>
> We don't own the Payroll module, and are finally getting around to
> "embracing" MES. The first and biggest step is getting our arms around
> time & attendance, which include timeclock activity (which we're
> actually doing in a test database and looks like it's working okay), but
> also paid time off tracking, overtime, etc.
>
>
>
> Without the Payroll module, there doesn't appear to be any way to
> track/manage paid time off. We don't think we want to buy another
> module, and I'm wondering if we can come up with a 'good enough' 80%
> solution that will meet our needs.
>
>
>
> My thought is that we do the following:
>
>
>
> - Normal daily timeclock activity happens via MES: employees
> clock in and out, and (eventually will) report time against work orders,
> etc. Right now we enter this all manually off of paper time cards
> (hours worked + job labor).
>
> - Paid Time Off (Sick, Vacation, Jury Duty, etc.) is reported
> to supervisors out of band (probably via a paper card), who enter these
> in Labor Entry and use a UD field to indicate which category (sick,
> vacation, etc.)
>
> - Supervisors review previous day's activity via LaborEdit (or
> perhaps a custom report) and address any exceptions with employee.
>
> - Accounting reviews data weekly and payroll data is exported
> via a SQL query against LaborHed that summarizes as necessary for input
> into our external payroll provider's system.
>
>
>
> We currently keep track of each employee's paid time off via a
> spreadsheet-based system, and I don't see that changing at least
> immediately.
>
>
>
> Have others tackled these issues and what kinds of issues have you run
> into or solutions have you come up with?
>
>
>
> -brian
>
>
>
> --
>
> Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /
> Picometrix
>
> bspolarich@...
> <mailto:bspolarich@...> ~ 734-864-5618 ~
> www.advancedphotonix.com <http://www.advancedphotonix.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Doh, that's simpler.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of chris_robisch
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:11 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES and "Lean"-ing Time and Attendance

You don't need the Payroll module nor a UD field to add more Indirect
Codes, like:

Grief
Holiday
Indirect
Jury
Sick
Vacation


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...>
wrote:
>
> 8.03.408B SQL
>
>
>
> We don't own the Payroll module, and are finally getting around to
> "embracing" MES. The first and biggest step is getting our arms
around
> time & attendance, which include timeclock activity (which we're
> actually doing in a test database and looks like it's working okay),
but
> also paid time off tracking, overtime, etc.
>
>
>
> Without the Payroll module, there doesn't appear to be any way to
> track/manage paid time off. We don't think we want to buy another
> module, and I'm wondering if we can come up with a 'good enough' 80%
> solution that will meet our needs.
>
>
>
> My thought is that we do the following:
>
>
>
> - Normal daily timeclock activity happens via MES: employees
> clock in and out, and (eventually will) report time against work
orders,
> etc. Right now we enter this all manually off of paper time cards
> (hours worked + job labor).
>
> - Paid Time Off (Sick, Vacation, Jury Duty, etc.) is reported
> to supervisors out of band (probably via a paper card), who enter
these
> in Labor Entry and use a UD field to indicate which category (sick,
> vacation, etc.)
>
> - Supervisors review previous day's activity via LaborEdit
(or
> perhaps a custom report) and address any exceptions with employee.
>
> - Accounting reviews data weekly and payroll data is exported
> via a SQL query against LaborHed that summarizes as necessary for
input
> into our external payroll provider's system.
>
>
>
> We currently keep track of each employee's paid time off via a
> spreadsheet-based system, and I don't see that changing at least
> immediately.
>
>
>
> Have others tackled these issues and what kinds of issues have you
run
> into or solutions have you come up with?
>
>
>
> -brian
>
>
>
> --
>
> Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix
/
> Picometrix
>
> bspolarich@...
> <mailto:bspolarich@...> ~ 734-864-5618 ~
> www.advancedphotonix.com <http://www.advancedphotonix.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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