MES euthanasia forces us to Kinetic in Browser

Kinetic ERP
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Preparing for the Smart Client euthanasia in May. My CAM showed me how to set up the URL link in our shortcuts to go directly to MES. I’m working on setting up Desktop browser shortcuts for our Shop MES machines.

Syntax like this https:////Apps/Erp/Home/#/home?mode=MES

This sort of works, but only after the User is signed on.

Process flow now is the user is presented with the Kinetic sign on, it then launches the Kinetic home page. User closes the browser and relaunches from the same shortcut and it loads MES without signing on. Obviously confusing for the users. I’d like to have a shortcut I can drop into the startup programs group so the machine just boots up like a dummy terminal to MES without intervention. Any tips?

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IIRC using =MES uses the full client license while =DC uses the MES “Data Collection” licenses. URL ends like: …/apps/erp/home/#/home?mode=dc once the user logs in it should show them then DC homepage:

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There are some other posts on here about MES struggles. It’s not great right now. Interested to see if anyone has anything new to make this better..

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You’re correct. DC uses the Data Collection license. MES is a full license.

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Using DC still takes me to the Kinetic home page first.

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It doesn’t if you haven’t been logged into Kinetic previously in my experience. If I go to mode=DC first I just get the DC app.

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Odd as I was logged into full Kinetic and opened my URL for =DC and got the MES home page once I got through the login…

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I tend to load the mode=DC URL in a different browser (if im normally doing using chrome, ill use edge) - or private mode. The cookies and whatnot tend to crossover between sessions if you use the same browser.

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Yes, but our shop doesn’t log into the home page in Kinetic first. They want to go directly to MES.

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My experience too. I use one browser for full client and then a different browser for DC.

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Try an incognito window with mode=DC

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Same, I’m forcing the URL to use Edge by adding the prefix “microsoft-edge:” to the URL path.

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Are you still on 23.2? Kinetic in the browser is much better in 24.2 and newer. It could be a 23.2 issue.

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No, we’re in the Fing cloud. 2025.2.7

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So you are saying that if your clear the browser cache and start fresh or us an InPrivate/Incognito window and load the DC URL it does not take you tot he MES screen?

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Maybe try clearing your browser data for your Epicor SaaS endpoints. Then try again. I’m wondering if Edge is still caching too much data and it’s redirecting incorrectly.

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INCOGNITO for the win!! Thank you!

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If that works then I would bet that there is a caching issue that is holding onto the previous session.

We use Edge and have a GPO setup to clear the cache automatically on browser close for our App Servers (we are on-prem so I actually think we clear anything with our AD Domain) and that solved a number of the random weird issues we would get when we made the move from Classic to Browser-Kinetic.

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That’s why I mention Incognito here.

And this.

Hopefully Epicor just cleans up this on their end. When you logout clear whatever cookie they are storing the mode in.

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