MES Menu Customization 803.406A

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No, The server is not limited to 8GB of RAM. Use PAE to extend the RAM to 16GB.
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Jonathan LangÂ
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699
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RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

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If you're not running on 64-bit, how do you get your system memory up
into the teens? Isn't 32-bit Server limited to 8GB RAM?

--Ari





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Hello,

When we open MES Menu and we run Start Production Activity we have a 3 fields: Job Number, Assembly, Operation.
Only Job Number field is enabled (active) after open form. We need change Assembly and Operation fields for active after load form.

Thank you.

Bart.




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3
Really? Doesn't you BOM (Bill of Material) direct the job from one place to the next? Maybe I'm confused, but I don't believe you want your workers directing the job to the next operation or telling the job what operation you want to do. This should all be done from the BOM. The only thing you need to fill in IS the job. The rest should be filled in for you. Engineering controlls BOM's.
Â
Jonathan LangÂ
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699


--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Bartosz Niemczewski <bartoszniemczewski@...> wrote:

From: Bartosz Niemczewski <bartoszniemczewski@...>
Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
To: "Vantage Group" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:50 AM






Hello,

When we open MES Menu and we run Start Production Activity we have a 3 fields: Job Number, Assembly, Operation.
Only Job Number field is enabled (active) after open form. We need change Assembly and Operation fields for active after load form.

Thank you.

Bart.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
4
The problem Bartosz is trying to solve is this:

We use barcodes on our job-travelers. When scanned, the barcode enters:
"job <tab> assembly <tab> operation <tab>" Our employees scan the
barcode on their employee-badge, then click "Start Activity," then scan
the barcode on the job-traveler. In v6 Plant Floor, this works
perfectly. In v8 MES, it seems that when entering the tab, even on the
keyboard, it takes a few moments for the next field to populate, so the
barcode scan "completes" before populating the next fields.

We are thinking that if the fields were already active, the time to
access them might decrease. Our other thought is to change them from
drop-down boxes to text-entry-only boxes instead, in case the delay is
from the time it takes to populate the data in the drop-down list...

Thanks.
--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Lang
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:56 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A



Really? Doesn't you BOM (Bill of Material) direct the job from one place
to the next? Maybe I'm confused, but I don't believe you want your
workers directing the job to the next operation or telling the job what
operation you want to do. This should all be done from the BOM. The only
thing you need to fill in IS the job. The rest should be filled in for
you. Engineering controlls BOM's.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Bartosz Niemczewski <bartoszniemczewski@...
<mailto:bartoszniemczewski%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

From: Bartosz Niemczewski <bartoszniemczewski@...
<mailto:bartoszniemczewski%40yahoo.com> >
Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
To: "Vantage Group" <vantage@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:50 AM

Hello,

When we open MES Menu and we run Start Production Activity we have a 3
fields: Job Number, Assembly, Operation.
Only Job Number field is enabled (active) after open form. We need
change Assembly and Operation fields for active after load form.

Thank you.

Bart.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Ari,
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I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would ask:
Â
1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
2) Is my DB up to snuff:
 2a) How old is my DB?
 2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
 2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1 processor)
 2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage? (One would hope not)
  2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting? (Small tweek)
 2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)
Â
There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have used and expanded on: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
Â
I would start there and work my way to software.
Â
Jonathan LangÂ
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I am assuming that we could add the part description to the MES Menu.
Is this correct? Where is one able to modify the MES Menu's?



Regards,





Andrew Best

Kice Industries, Inc.

P(316)744-7151

F(316)295-2412





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Jonathan -

1) One user - the MES station itself. We're a couple weeks away from
implementing the upgrade from v6.
2) DB (less than 1GB in size) is freshly upgraded from v6. Server is
dedicated to Vantage/Progress, has 8GB RAM with as 12GB pagefile on a
quad 3.0 GHz Xeon server. We only own 25 seats + 5 MES, so max is 30
users. Windows Server 2003x64 is installed on a 32GB RAID-1 drive using
15k-rpm SAS disks; database is stored on a 67GB RAID-1 drive using
15k-rpm SAS disks. I haven't tweaked RWIN, but we'll look into it.

I don't think our hardware spec is that out of line. Plus, we really
don't *need* to use the pull-down style boxes for Assembly and
Operation, since we use the barcodes to enter them, so that might be an
easy fix that fits our needs most appropriately...

--Ari
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Lang
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A



Ari,

I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would ask:

1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
2) Is my DB up to snuff:
2a) How old is my DB?
2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1
processor)
2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage? (One
would hope not)
2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting?
(Small tweek)
2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)

There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have used
and expanded on:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>

I would start there and work my way to software.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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Your shortcut to mes menu should looks like this

<path>\mfgsys803\client\MfgSys.exe -MES /MESC

and use login with customization rights.

After customization I am using personalization to customize my MES Forms on each computer.

If anybody know better way please post it ?

Thank you.



________________________________
From: Andrew Best <abest@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:15:29 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.407A


I am assuming that we could add the part description to the MES Menu.
Is this correct? Where is one able to modify the MES Menu's?

Regards,

Andrew Best

Kice Industries, Inc.

P(316)744-7151

F(316)295-2412

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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Dear Andrew:

There are 3 AnswerBooks on MyEpicWeb that provide customization
instructions for the MES.

AnswerBook 5213MPS, CUST How do you customize the main MES Menu and
set to use it instead of default.

AnswerBook 6035MPS, CUST How to customize programs within the MES
menu.

AnswerBook 6539MPS, CUST MES How can I program the blank buttons or
reprogram existing ones.

The first two should get you started. Once you follow the steps in
5213MPS & 6035MPS, you can open the MES module that you want to
customize and you will see that Customization is now available from
the tools menu. Upon pressing a button for a menu item, write down
the information in the "Process Calling" popup, you will need it
later for deployment as instructed in 6035MPS. From this point it
will work like customization in any other maintenance screen.

I have copies of these AnswerBooks that I could send you off-group if
you are unable to find them on the Epicor website.

Lynn




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Best" <abest@...> wrote:
>
> I am assuming that we could add the part description to the MES
Menu.
> Is this correct? Where is one able to modify the MES Menu's?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Best
>
> Kice Industries, Inc.
>
> P(316)744-7151
>
> F(316)295-2412
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
10
Ari,

2003 x64 has not tested well with Vantage. When I installed vantage
on a 64bit machine I had a lot of problems. I called Vantage on why I
was having these issues, without telling them I was using 64bit, and
they were stumped untill they looked at my operating system.

To make a long story short I scrubbed the whole thing, reloaded
Vantage on 32bit and never had a problem.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ari Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> Jonathan -
>
> 1) One user - the MES station itself. We're a couple weeks away
from
> implementing the upgrade from v6.
> 2) DB (less than 1GB in size) is freshly upgraded from v6. Server
is
> dedicated to Vantage/Progress, has 8GB RAM with as 12GB pagefile on
a
> quad 3.0 GHz Xeon server. We only own 25 seats + 5 MES, so max is
30
> users. Windows Server 2003x64 is installed on a 32GB RAID-1 drive
using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks; database is stored on a 67GB RAID-1 drive using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks. I haven't tweaked RWIN, but we'll look into it.
>
> I don't think our hardware spec is that out of line. Plus, we
really
> don't *need* to use the pull-down style boxes for Assembly and
> Operation, since we use the barcodes to enter them, so that might
be an
> easy fix that fits our needs most appropriately...
>
> --Ari
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jonathan Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
>
>
>
> Ari,
>
> I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would
ask:
>
> 1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
> 2) Is my DB up to snuff:
> 2a) How old is my DB?
> 2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
> 2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1
> processor)
> 2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage?
(One
> would hope not)
> 2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting?
> (Small tweek)
> 2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)
>
> There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have
used
> and expanded on:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
>
> I would start there and work my way to software.
>
> Jonathan Lang
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
11
If you're not running on 64-bit, how do you get your system memory up
into the teens? Isn't 32-bit Server limited to 8GB RAM?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of lsbestinc
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A



Ari,

2003 x64 has not tested well with Vantage. When I installed vantage
on a 64bit machine I had a lot of problems. I called Vantage on why I
was having these issues, without telling them I was using 64bit, and
they were stumped untill they looked at my operating system.

To make a long story short I scrubbed the whole thing, reloaded
Vantage on 32bit and never had a problem.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> Jonathan -
>
> 1) One user - the MES station itself. We're a couple weeks away
from
> implementing the upgrade from v6.
> 2) DB (less than 1GB in size) is freshly upgraded from v6. Server
is
> dedicated to Vantage/Progress, has 8GB RAM with as 12GB pagefile on
a
> quad 3.0 GHz Xeon server. We only own 25 seats + 5 MES, so max is
30
> users. Windows Server 2003x64 is installed on a 32GB RAID-1 drive
using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks; database is stored on a 67GB RAID-1 drive using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks. I haven't tweaked RWIN, but we'll look into it.
>
> I don't think our hardware spec is that out of line. Plus, we
really
> don't *need* to use the pull-down style boxes for Assembly and
> Operation, since we use the barcodes to enter them, so that might
be an
> easy fix that fits our needs most appropriately...
>
> --Ari
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Jonathan Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
>
>
>
> Ari,
>
> I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would
ask:
>
> 1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
> 2) Is my DB up to snuff:
> 2a) How old is my DB?
> 2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
> 2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1
> processor)
> 2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage?
(One
> would hope not)
> 2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting?
> (Small tweek)
> 2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)
>
> There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have
used
> and expanded on:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> >
>
> I would start there and work my way to software.
>
> Jonathan Lang
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
12
You need to add the /PAE switch to the boot.ini to address more than 4
GB of ram on 32bit server system.



http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx



Jim



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A



If you're not running on 64-bit, how do you get your system memory up
into the teens? Isn't 32-bit Server limited to 8GB RAM?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of lsbestinc
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

Ari,

2003 x64 has not tested well with Vantage. When I installed vantage
on a 64bit machine I had a lot of problems. I called Vantage on why I
was having these issues, without telling them I was using 64bit, and
they were stumped untill they looked at my operating system.

To make a long story short I scrubbed the whole thing, reloaded
Vantage on 32bit and never had a problem.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> Jonathan -
>
> 1) One user - the MES station itself. We're a couple weeks away
from
> implementing the upgrade from v6.
> 2) DB (less than 1GB in size) is freshly upgraded from v6. Server
is
> dedicated to Vantage/Progress, has 8GB RAM with as 12GB pagefile on
a
> quad 3.0 GHz Xeon server. We only own 25 seats + 5 MES, so max is
30
> users. Windows Server 2003x64 is installed on a 32GB RAID-1 drive
using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks; database is stored on a 67GB RAID-1 drive using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks. I haven't tweaked RWIN, but we'll look into it.
>
> I don't think our hardware spec is that out of line. Plus, we
really
> don't *need* to use the pull-down style boxes for Assembly and
> Operation, since we use the barcodes to enter them, so that might
be an
> easy fix that fits our needs most appropriately...
>
> --Ari
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Jonathan Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
>
>
>
> Ari,
>
> I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would
ask:
>
> 1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
> 2) Is my DB up to snuff:
> 2a) How old is my DB?
> 2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
> 2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1
> processor)
> 2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage?
(One
> would hope not)
> 2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting?
> (Small tweek)
> 2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)
>
> There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have
used
> and expanded on:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> >
>
> I would start there and work my way to software.
>
> Jonathan Lang
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Jim -

In that article, it specifically mentions "Enterprise Edition" and
"Datacenter Edition." It doesn't mention the standard edition at all.
Are you sure this is a valid configuration setting in the standard
edition?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Mediger
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A



You need to add the /PAE switch to the boot.ini to address more than 4
GB of ram on 32bit server system.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx>

Jim

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

If you're not running on 64-bit, how do you get your system memory up
into the teens? Isn't 32-bit Server limited to 8GB RAM?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of lsbestinc
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

Ari,

2003 x64 has not tested well with Vantage. When I installed vantage
on a 64bit machine I had a lot of problems. I called Vantage on why I
was having these issues, without telling them I was using 64bit, and
they were stumped untill they looked at my operating system.

To make a long story short I scrubbed the whole thing, reloaded
Vantage on 32bit and never had a problem.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> Jonathan -
>
> 1) One user - the MES station itself. We're a couple weeks away
from
> implementing the upgrade from v6.
> 2) DB (less than 1GB in size) is freshly upgraded from v6. Server
is
> dedicated to Vantage/Progress, has 8GB RAM with as 12GB pagefile on
a
> quad 3.0 GHz Xeon server. We only own 25 seats + 5 MES, so max is
30
> users. Windows Server 2003x64 is installed on a 32GB RAID-1 drive
using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks; database is stored on a 67GB RAID-1 drive using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks. I haven't tweaked RWIN, but we'll look into it.
>
> I don't think our hardware spec is that out of line. Plus, we
really
> don't *need* to use the pull-down style boxes for Assembly and
> Operation, since we use the barcodes to enter them, so that might
be an
> easy fix that fits our needs most appropriately...
>
> --Ari
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Jonathan Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
>
>
>
> Ari,
>
> I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would
ask:
>
> 1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
> 2) Is my DB up to snuff:
> 2a) How old is my DB?
> 2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
> 2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1
> processor)
> 2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage?
(One
> would hope not)
> 2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting?
> (Small tweek)
> 2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)
>
> There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have
used
> and expanded on:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> >
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> > >
>
> I would start there and work my way to software.
>
> Jonathan Lang
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Memory limits for Windows Servers, per MS:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx#physical_memory_li
mits_windows_server_2003

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A



Jim -

In that article, it specifically mentions "Enterprise Edition" and
"Datacenter Edition." It doesn't mention the standard edition at all.
Are you sure this is a valid configuration setting in the standard
edition?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Jim Mediger
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

You need to add the /PAE switch to the boot.ini to address more than 4
GB of ram on 32bit server system.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx> >

Jim

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

If you're not running on 64-bit, how do you get your system memory up
into the teens? Isn't 32-bit Server limited to 8GB RAM?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
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Of lsbestinc
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

Ari,

2003 x64 has not tested well with Vantage. When I installed vantage
on a 64bit machine I had a lot of problems. I called Vantage on why I
was having these issues, without telling them I was using 64bit, and
they were stumped untill they looked at my operating system.

To make a long story short I scrubbed the whole thing, reloaded
Vantage on 32bit and never had a problem.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> Jonathan -
>
> 1) One user - the MES station itself. We're a couple weeks away
from
> implementing the upgrade from v6.
> 2) DB (less than 1GB in size) is freshly upgraded from v6. Server
is
> dedicated to Vantage/Progress, has 8GB RAM with as 12GB pagefile on
a
> quad 3.0 GHz Xeon server. We only own 25 seats + 5 MES, so max is
30
> users. Windows Server 2003x64 is installed on a 32GB RAID-1 drive
using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks; database is stored on a 67GB RAID-1 drive using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks. I haven't tweaked RWIN, but we'll look into it.
>
> I don't think our hardware spec is that out of line. Plus, we
really
> don't *need* to use the pull-down style boxes for Assembly and
> Operation, since we use the barcodes to enter them, so that might
be an
> easy fix that fits our needs most appropriately...
>
> --Ari
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Jonathan Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
>
>
>
> Ari,
>
> I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would
ask:
>
> 1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
> 2) Is my DB up to snuff:
> 2a) How old is my DB?
> 2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
> 2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1
> processor)
> 2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage?
(One
> would hope not)
> 2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting?
> (Small tweek)
> 2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)
>
> There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have
used
> and expanded on:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> >
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> > >
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> >
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> > > >
>
> I would start there and work my way to software.
>
> Jonathan Lang
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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15
I thought the OP was between 32bit and 64bit and did not notice mention
of Standard or Enterprise. Yes you need Enterprise or Datacenter
editions. You do not need 64 bit to access more than 4GB of memory.



You may want to use the /PAE switch if you have 4GB of memory and cannot
see all of it (you may never see all of it depending on how much is
reserved for hardware).

I've also heard mentioned if you have more than 16GB then you may want
to disable the /PAE switch, can't seem to find a link supporting that
though.



Jim



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A



Jim -

In that article, it specifically mentions "Enterprise Edition" and
"Datacenter Edition." It doesn't mention the standard edition at all.
Are you sure this is a valid configuration setting in the standard
edition?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Jim Mediger
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

You need to add the /PAE switch to the boot.ini to address more than 4
GB of ram on 32bit server system.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758228.aspx>

Jim

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

If you're not running on 64-bit, how do you get your system memory up
into the teens? Isn't 32-bit Server limited to 8GB RAM?

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of lsbestinc
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES Menu Customization 803.406A

Ari,

2003 x64 has not tested well with Vantage. When I installed vantage
on a 64bit machine I had a lot of problems. I called Vantage on why I
was having these issues, without telling them I was using 64bit, and
they were stumped untill they looked at my operating system.

To make a long story short I scrubbed the whole thing, reloaded
Vantage on 32bit and never had a problem.

Jonathan Lang
Oil Rite Corporation
Sr. Network Administrator
Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
Fax: (920) 682-7699

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> Jonathan -
>
> 1) One user - the MES station itself. We're a couple weeks away
from
> implementing the upgrade from v6.
> 2) DB (less than 1GB in size) is freshly upgraded from v6. Server
is
> dedicated to Vantage/Progress, has 8GB RAM with as 12GB pagefile on
a
> quad 3.0 GHz Xeon server. We only own 25 seats + 5 MES, so max is
30
> users. Windows Server 2003x64 is installed on a 32GB RAID-1 drive
using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks; database is stored on a 67GB RAID-1 drive using
> 15k-rpm SAS disks. I haven't tweaked RWIN, but we'll look into it.
>
> I don't think our hardware spec is that out of line. Plus, we
really
> don't *need* to use the pull-down style boxes for Assembly and
> Operation, since we use the barcodes to enter them, so that might
be an
> easy fix that fits our needs most appropriately...
>
> --Ari
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Jonathan Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:50 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES Menu Customization 803.406A
>
>
>
> Ari,
>
> I would look at the Hardware first. These are the questions I would
ask:
>
> 1) How many users are hitting my DB. This includes Citrix and VMWare
> 2) Is my DB up to snuff:
> 2a) How old is my DB?
> 2b) How much RAM do I have? (16GB or more)
> 2c) How many processors do I have running? (For every 10 people 1
> processor)
> 2d) Do I have other programs running on my DB other than Vantage?
(One
> would hope not)
> 2e) What is your RWIN size? Do you have it at the largest setting?
> (Small tweek)
> 2f) what is the size of your pagefile? (HUGE)
>
> There are more things to look at but this is a great guide I have
used
> and expanded on:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> >
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb463205.aspx> > >
>
> I would start there and work my way to software.
>
> Jonathan Lang
> Oil Rite Corporation
> Sr. Network Administrator
> Ph: (920) 682-6173 Ext: 126
> Fax: (920) 682-7699
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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