MES question Blank Title 64186

Ah... The "joys" of 'real time' reporting...

For the job costs to be accurate, the employee should be Ending Activity on Job #2 when they walk away for an extended period of time to focus on their primary responsibility (Job #1) and only reStart activity on Job #2 when they are really working on it (hopefully without leaving Job #1 sitting idle - or they should End activity on IT).

The Resource Group Efficiency report should indicate the resource used on Job 1 as being well utilized and efficient. The resource used on Job 2 should be heavily underutilized.

Unless he/she is completely off pace from the expected production rates, the Employee trying to work on both Jobs should look quite productive using the Employee Efficiency report. All that concurrent in process activity time should add up to more hours than they actually worked.


Over a long period of time, if work is backing up (queue of available work increasing in front of these two resources) management should see from these two reports that the employee is the bottleneck and add labor (or invest in more efficient automated equipment).

If you are finite scheduling these jobs, you have 2 layers of constraints per OP. (1) The equipment resources (that are in this universe & physically available 24x7 each) and one limited labor resource to operate them both (typically 7.5 x 5 as the adjusted weekly capacity).


Rob Brown

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, tonia.blakely <tblakely@...> wrote:
From: tonia.blakely <tblakely@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES question
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 6:23 PM











The reality is ... this employee may only be expected to run Job #1

but in an effort to utilize any spare time between cycles, he may

also work on Job #2. The work he completes on Job #2 is only

equivalent to 1 hr of production thus for a 10 hr shift he is only

10% efficient. Management looks very closely at employee

efficiency and earned hrs thus this employee looks like he is less

than par and in reality he is doing more than is expected.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ ...>

wrote:

>

> If you are doing Actual costing, why WOULDN'T you want it to

reflect the reality of each job? You'll get a cost variance (from

standard) posted - but so what?

>

> Maybe I don't understand the quesion.

>

> Rob

>

> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, tonia.blakely <tblakely@.. .> wrote:

>

> From: tonia.blakely <tblakely@.. .>

> Subject: [Vantage] MES question

> To: vantage@yahoogroups .com

> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:04 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> We are new to MES and I would like to know if anyone else has this

> problem and what's their solution.

>

> We have an employee that starts activity on Job #1. Also,

throughout

> the day they run Job #2. The total amount of time they actually

spent

> on Job #2 is the equivalent of 1 hour. If they clock in on both

jobs

> the cost is split between both for the entire shift but the

majority of

> the time/cost should go against Job #1.

>

> Next time we run the part on Job #2 it may be at full rate.

>

> What is the best way to handle this?

>
How can I disable the Close button on the MES screen?
or generally just stop shop users from closing MES?

Thank you




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--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Tony Hughes <thughes281@...> wrote:
>
> How can I disable the Close button on the MES screen?
> or generally just stop shop users from closing MES?
>
> Thank you

_______________________________________________________________________
_____________


I was able to hide the Close button by going into Customization mode.
Once in Custom mode click on the Close button, this will bring up the
Tools Dialog screen. Then you want to find the "Visible" Line and
select "False". Are you familier with MES customizations?

Jeff
Hi Jeff,
I couldn't figure out how to go to customization mode with MES
Where normal Vantage you put in Developer mode, I didn't see that in MES.
Your solution sounds perfect once I figure that out, thank you.

Tony

----- Original Message ----
From: vantage4708 <jcapen@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:43:20 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES question

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Tony Hughes <thughes281@ ...> wrote:
>
> How can I disable the Close button on the MES screen?
> or generally just stop shop users from closing MES?
>
> Thank you

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
____________ _

I was able to hide the Close button by going into Customization mode.
Once in Custom mode click on the Close button, this will bring up the
Tools Dialog screen. Then you want to find the "Visible" Line and
select "False". Are you familier with MES customizations?

Jeff




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Tony,
It doesn't seem to be well advertised, but you can edit the MES shortcut
and change the -MES to -MESC (for Customize I guess) and that will get
you into developer mode.
Good luck,
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics

Tony Hughes wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff,
> I couldn't figure out how to go to customization mode with MES
> Where normal Vantage you put in Developer mode, I didn't see that in MES.
> Your solution sounds perfect once I figure that out, thank you.
>
> Tony
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: vantage4708 <jcapen@... <mailto:jcapen%40nmc-oh.com>>
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:43:20 AM
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES question
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Tony Hughes <thughes281@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > How can I disable the Close button on the MES screen?
> > or generally just stop shop users from closing MES?
> >
> > Thank you
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> ____________ _
>
> I was able to hide the Close button by going into Customization mode.
> Once in Custom mode click on the Close button, this will bring up the
> Tools Dialog screen. Then you want to find the "Visible" Line and
> select "False". Are you familier with MES customizations?
>
> Jeff
>
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If your user rights authorize you for MES customization, you get into developer/customization mode via right click menu.

--- On Wed, 4/23/08, Tony Hughes <thughes281@...> wrote:

From: Tony Hughes <thughes281@...>
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: MES question
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008, 2:33 PM






Hi Jeff,
I couldn't figure out how to go to customization mode with MES
Where normal Vantage you put in Developer mode, I didn't see that in MES.
Your solution sounds perfect once I figure that out, thank you.

Tony

----- Original Message ----
From: vantage4708 <jcapen@nmc-oh. com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:43:20 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MES question

--- In vantage@yahoogroups .com, Tony Hughes <thughes281@ ...> wrote:
>
> How can I disable the Close button on the MES screen?
> or generally just stop shop users from closing MES?
>
> Thank you

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
____________ _

I was able to hide the Close button by going into Customization mode.
Once in Custom mode click on the Close button, this will bring up the
Tools Dialog screen. Then you want to find the "Visible" Line and
select "False". Are you familier with MES customizations?

Jeff


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We are new to MES and I would like to know if anyone else has this
problem and what's their solution.

We have an employee that starts activity on Job #1. Also, throughout
the day they run Job #2. The total amount of time they actually spent
on Job #2 is the equivalent of 1 hour. If they clock in on both jobs
the cost is split between both for the entire shift but the majority of
the time/cost should go against Job #1.

Next time we run the part on Job #2 it may be at full rate.

What is the best way to handle this?
Set the Resource Group(s) to use estimates. This will split the time
based on the estimated hours. If job 1 is estimated to run for 3 hours
and job 2 is estimated to run for 1 hour, the time will be split
appropriately. This will also affect your burden if the burden = labor
checkbox is checked. If you want the machine hours to be correct, don't
check the burden = labor checkbox.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of tonia.blakely
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] MES question



We are new to MES and I would like to know if anyone else has this
problem and what's their solution.

We have an employee that starts activity on Job #1. Also, throughout
the day they run Job #2. The total amount of time they actually spent
on Job #2 is the equivalent of 1 hour. If they clock in on both jobs
the cost is split between both for the entire shift but the majority of
the time/cost should go against Job #1.

Next time we run the part on Job #2 it may be at full rate.

What is the best way to handle this?





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V 8.03.404x Somehow, one of my shop employees started production activity in MES and the entry is listed under the tab showing what is being worked on. However, I notice that somehow, it did not bring into the gridline the resouce group name and the resource ID. I try to END PRODUCTION ACTIVITY for the record and I get an error stating that Resource Group ' is not found in Company XXX in Plant Mfgsys.

So, I assume this is saying that it can not find a resource group with a null or blank name in the company master files. The logic of the error seems simple enough. However, I have no idea then how the work was even selectable as production activity within MES.

I can type the name of the resource group and resource into the line, but it then gives me an error stating that I can not edit an active detail record.

I then attempt to simply select the record and hit delete. The record temporarily disappears, but when tabbing to any other place on the screen, the error says that I can not edit/delete an active record...etc...so it appears that I am in a nasty loop for which I am completely baffled by the entry point.

Can anyone please shed some light on how I can get out of this?

Thanks
Carey
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If you are doing Actual costing, why WOULDN'T you want it to reflect the reality of each job? You'll get a cost variance (from standard) posted - but so what?

Maybe I don't understand the quesion.

Rob

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, tonia.blakely <tblakely@...> wrote:

From: tonia.blakely <tblakely@...>
Subject: [Vantage] MES question
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:04 PM






We are new to MES and I would like to know if anyone else has this
problem and what's their solution.

We have an employee that starts activity on Job #1. Also, throughout
the day they run Job #2. The total amount of time they actually spent
on Job #2 is the equivalent of 1 hour. If they clock in on both jobs
the cost is split between both for the entire shift but the majority of
the time/cost should go against Job #1.

Next time we run the part on Job #2 it may be at full rate.

What is the best way to handle this?
I think I read recently there is a utility for safely removing the record. If not (and you have read/write odbc access), locate the LaborDtl record and simply delete it. Then have the user restart the activity (watching him do it to make sure everything required is entered.)

Rob

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@...> wrote:

From: Carey S <rotary1@...>
Subject: [Vantage] MES problem
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:37 PM






V 8.03.404x Somehow, one of my shop employees started production activity in MES and the entry is listed under the tab showing what is being worked on. However, I notice that somehow, it did not bring into the gridline the resouce group name and the resource ID. I try to END PRODUCTION ACTIVITY for the record and I get an error stating that Resource Group ' is not found in Company XXX in Plant Mfgsys.

So, I assume this is saying that it can not find a resource group with a null or blank name in the company master files. The logic of the error seems simple enough. However, I have no idea then how the work was even selectable as production activity within MES.

I can type the name of the resource group and resource into the line, but it then gives me an error stating that I can not edit an active detail record.

I then attempt to simply select the record and hit delete. The record temporarily disappears, but when tabbing to any other place on the screen, the error says that I can not edit/delete an active record...etc. ..so it appears that I am in a nasty loop for which I am completely baffled by the entry point.

Can anyone please shed some light on how I can get out of this?

Thanks
Carey
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I think you're talking about these database conversion scripts:



You can access these from the Progress/Vantage Admin Tools program
under "Database Conversions". This is the safe way to cleanup orphaned
Labor transactions.



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:06 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MES problem



I think I read recently there is a utility for safely removing the
record. If not (and you have read/write odbc access), locate the
LaborDtl record and simply delete it. Then have the user restart the
activity (watching him do it to make sure everything required is
entered.)

Rob

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@...
<mailto:rotary1%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

From: Carey S <rotary1@... <mailto:rotary1%40hotmail.com> >
Subject: [Vantage] MES problem
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:37 PM

V 8.03.404x Somehow, one of my shop employees started production
activity in MES and the entry is listed under the tab showing what is
being worked on. However, I notice that somehow, it did not bring into
the gridline the resouce group name and the resource ID. I try to END
PRODUCTION ACTIVITY for the record and I get an error stating that
Resource Group ' is not found in Company XXX in Plant Mfgsys.

So, I assume this is saying that it can not find a resource group with a
null or blank name in the company master files. The logic of the error
seems simple enough. However, I have no idea then how the work was even
selectable as production activity within MES.

I can type the name of the resource group and resource into the line,
but it then gives me an error stating that I can not edit an active
detail record.

I then attempt to simply select the record and hit delete. The record
temporarily disappears, but when tabbing to any other place on the
screen, the error says that I can not edit/delete an active
record...etc. ..so it appears that I am in a nasty loop for which I am
completely baffled by the entry point.

Can anyone please shed some light on how I can get out of this?

Thanks
Carey
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Thanks Briain, but do you happen to know the conversion program IDs?
Carey



To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: bspolarich@...: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:42:25 -0400Subject: RE: [Vantage] MES problem




I think you're talking about these database conversion scripts:You can access these from the Progress/Vantage Admin Tools programunder "Database Conversions". This is the safe way to cleanup orphanedLabor transactions. --Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /Picometrixbspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.comFrom: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On BehalfOf Robert BrownSent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:06 PMTo: vantage@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Vantage] MES problemI think I read recently there is a utility for safely removing therecord. If not (and you have read/write odbc access), locate theLaborDtl record and simply delete it. Then have the user restart theactivity (watching him do it to make sure everything required isentered.) Rob--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@...<mailto:rotary1%40hotmail.com> > wrote:From: Carey S <rotary1@... <mailto:rotary1%40hotmail.com> >Subject: [Vantage] MES problemTo: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:37 PMV 8.03.404x Somehow, one of my shop employees started productionactivity in MES and the entry is listed under the tab showing what isbeing worked on. However, I notice that somehow, it did not bring intothe gridline the resouce group name and the resource ID. I try to ENDPRODUCTION ACTIVITY for the record and I get an error stating thatResource Group ' is not found in Company XXX in Plant Mfgsys. So, I assume this is saying that it can not find a resource group with anull or blank name in the company master files. The logic of the errorseems simple enough. However, I have no idea then how the work was evenselectable as production activity within MES.I can type the name of the resource group and resource into the line,but it then gives me an error stating that I can not edit an activedetail record.I then attempt to simply select the record and hit delete. The recordtemporarily disappears, but when tabbing to any other place on thescreen, the error says that I can not edit/delete an activerecord...etc. ..so it appears that I am in a nasty loop for which I amcompletely baffled by the entry point. Can anyone please shed some light on how I can get out of this?ThanksCarey____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.http://windowslive. com/connect/ post/jamiethomso n.spaces. live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637! 5295.entry? ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ domore_092008[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Brian, Rob, and everyone.
Thank you for your prompt suggestions.
I think I may have gotten it.
I ran 8920, END on Active Labor Detail Transactions, and entered the company and employee IDs. Click on Get Detail Transactions and the two records I was working with do show up.
I pressed DONE and of course nothing happened. Then, I tried again and tried to change the value of YES under the ACTIVE COLUMN to NO and then pressed DONE. This appeared to clear the records. Now, when I log in to MES under the same shop employee, the records are gone.

Thanks again!
Carey



To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: bspolarich@...: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:42:25 -0400Subject: RE: [Vantage] MES problem




I think you're talking about these database conversion scripts:You can access these from the Progress/Vantage Admin Tools programunder "Database Conversions". This is the safe way to cleanup orphanedLabor transactions. --Brian W. Spolarich ~ Manager, Information Services ~ Advanced Photonix /Picometrixbspolarich@... ~ 734-864-5618 ~ www.advancedphotonix.comFrom: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On BehalfOf Robert BrownSent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:06 PMTo: vantage@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Vantage] MES problemI think I read recently there is a utility for safely removing therecord. If not (and you have read/write odbc access), locate theLaborDtl record and simply delete it. Then have the user restart theactivity (watching him do it to make sure everything required isentered.) Rob--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@...<mailto:rotary1%40hotmail.com> > wrote:From: Carey S <rotary1@... <mailto:rotary1%40hotmail.com> >Subject: [Vantage] MES problemTo: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:37 PMV 8.03.404x Somehow, one of my shop employees started productionactivity in MES and the entry is listed under the tab showing what isbeing worked on. However, I notice that somehow, it did not bring intothe gridline the resouce group name and the resource ID. I try to ENDPRODUCTION ACTIVITY for the record and I get an error stating thatResource Group ' is not found in Company XXX in Plant Mfgsys. So, I assume this is saying that it can not find a resource group with anull or blank name in the company master files. The logic of the errorseems simple enough. However, I have no idea then how the work was evenselectable as production activity within MES.I can type the name of the resource group and resource into the line,but it then gives me an error stating that I can not edit an activedetail record.I then attempt to simply select the record and hit delete. The recordtemporarily disappears, but when tabbing to any other place on thescreen, the error says that I can not edit/delete an activerecord...etc. ..so it appears that I am in a nasty loop for which I amcompletely baffled by the entry point. Can anyone please shed some light on how I can get out of this?ThanksCarey____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.http://windowslive. com/connect/ post/jamiethomso n.spaces. live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637! 5295.entry? ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ domore_092008[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Hi again everyone.
I have one more shop employee that when logged in, everything is super slow. This happens only with this single employee record.
Sometimes I will press a button and have to wait 2 mintues before anything happens at all. This is even the case when I enter his employee id, and it asks for his associated password, the wait is about 2 minutes.

There is no job or operation that he has selected for work, so when his MES screen does not come, all of the tabs are blank.

Does anyone have an idea about how to troubleshoot THIS?
Thanks
Carey

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I had this issue once. I actually disabled that employee and readded him
. This seemed to fix the issue. Not sure if this is the best way of
doing it, but it did work.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carey S
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:07 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Another MES problem



Hi again everyone.
I have one more shop employee that when logged in, everything is super
slow. This happens only with this single employee record.
Sometimes I will press a button and have to wait 2 mintues before
anything happens at all. This is even the case when I enter his employee
id, and it asks for his associated password, the wait is about 2
minutes.

There is no job or operation that he has selected for work, so when his
MES screen does not come, all of the tabs are blank.

Does anyone have an idea about how to troubleshoot THIS?
Thanks
Carey

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Look at one of his/her recent labor transactions and see what the Payroll date is.

Not clocking out (of payroll current payroll date at end of day) can lead to a ton of labordetail records piling up under a single laborheader. (Although if the program was well written it shouldn't) this can seriously slow things down after less than a hundred labor detail records accumulate under a labor header.

Just guessing but it is easy to check for and correct if that is it. (Just clock them out of MES.)

Rob

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@...> wrote:
From: Carey S <rotary1@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Another MES problem
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:07 PM











Hi again everyone.

I have one more shop employee that when logged in, everything is super slow. This happens only with this single employee record.

Sometimes I will press a button and have to wait 2 mintues before anything happens at all. This is even the case when I enter his employee id, and it asks for his associated password, the wait is about 2 minutes.



There is no job or operation that he has selected for work, so when his MES screen does not come, all of the tabs are blank.



Does anyone have an idea about how to troubleshoot THIS?

Thanks

Carey



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Rob,
I owe you a coke!
Was this stupidly obvious or obviously stupid?
Day was wasted with troubleshooting ridiculous things, but at least tomorrow can be productive (until I find something else).

Thanks again.
Carey



To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: robertb_versa@...: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:05:39 -0700Subject: Re: [Vantage] Another MES problem




Look at one of his/her recent labor transactions and see what the Payroll date is.Not clocking out (of payroll current payroll date at end of day) can lead to a ton of labordetail records piling up under a single laborheader. (Although if the program was well written it shouldn't) this can seriously slow things down after less than a hundred labor detail records accumulate under a labor header.Just guessing but it is easy to check for and correct if that is it. (Just clock them out of MES.)Rob --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@...> wrote:From: Carey S <rotary1@...>Subject: [Vantage] Another MES problemTo: vantage@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:07 PMHi again everyone.I have one more shop employee that when logged in, everything is super slow. This happens only with this single employee record.Sometimes I will press a button and have to wait 2 mintues before anything happens at all. This is even the case when I enter his employee id, and it asks for his associated password, the wait is about 2 minutes.There is no job or operation that he has selected for work, so when his MES screen does not come, all of the tabs are blank. Does anyone have an idea about how to troubleshoot THIS?ThanksCarey____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life.http://clk.atdmt com/MRT/go/ msnnkwxp 75mrt/direct/ 01/[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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The reality is ... this employee may only be expected to run Job #1
but in an effort to utilize any spare time between cycles, he may
also work on Job #2. The work he completes on Job #2 is only
equivalent to 1 hr of production thus for a 10 hr shift he is only
10% efficient. Management looks very closely at employee
efficiency and earned hrs thus this employee looks like he is less
than par and in reality he is doing more than is expected.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> If you are doing Actual costing, why WOULDN'T you want it to
reflect the reality of each job? You'll get a cost variance (from
standard) posted - but so what?
>
> Maybe I don't understand the quesion.
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, tonia.blakely <tblakely@...> wrote:
>
> From: tonia.blakely <tblakely@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] MES question
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:04 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We are new to MES and I would like to know if anyone else has this
> problem and what's their solution.
>
> We have an employee that starts activity on Job #1. Also,
throughout
> the day they run Job #2. The total amount of time they actually
spent
> on Job #2 is the equivalent of 1 hour. If they clock in on both
jobs
> the cost is split between both for the entire shift but the
majority of
> the time/cost should go against Job #1.
>
> Next time we run the part on Job #2 it may be at full rate.
>
> What is the best way to handle this?
>
Glad to help.
The program manager who designed the MES paradigm should spend eternity in purgatory unable to edit in process activity records and searching aimlessly for payroll dates when users invariably forget to clock out.
Absolutely the dumbest design I've ever seen in 20+ years.
Rob

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@...> wrote:
From: Carey S <rotary1@...>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Another MES problem
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 6:15 PM











Rob,

I owe you a coke!

Was this stupidly obvious or obviously stupid?

Day was wasted with troubleshooting ridiculous things, but at least tomorrow can be productive (until I find something else).



Thanks again.

Carey



To: vantage@yahoogroups .comFrom: robertb_versa@ yahoo.comDate: Wed, 24 Sep :05:39 -0700Subject: Re: [Vantage] Another MES problem



Look at one of his/her recent labor transactions and see what the Payroll date is.Not clocking out (of payroll current payroll date at end of day) can lead to a ton of labordetail records piling up under a single laborheader. (Although if the program was well written it shouldn't) this can seriously slow things down after less than a hundred labor detail records accumulate under a labor header.Just guessing but it is easy to check for and correct if that is it. (Just clock them out of MES.)Rob --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Carey S <rotary1@hotmail. com> wrote:From: Carey S <rotary1@hotmail. com>Subject: [Vantage] Another MES problemTo: vantage@yahoogroups .comDate: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:07 PMHi again everyone.I have one more shop employee that when logged in, everything is super slow. This happens only with this single employee record.Sometimes I will press a button and have to wait 2 mintues before anything happens at all. This is even the case when I
enter his employee id, and it asks for his associated password, the wait is about 2 minutes.There is no job or operation that he has selected for work, so when his MES screen does not come, all of the tabs are blank. Does anyone have an idea about how to troubleshoot THIS?ThanksCarey_ _________ __ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life.http:// clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ msnnkwxp 75mrt/direct/ 01/[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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