MFG-VAR Transactions on Complete Jobs, but not Closed

Hi all,

I’ve been reviewing Job cost as of late for our finance team. I’ve been noticing that some Jobs have MFG-VAR transaction on them, which is normal and we’re trying to get a hold off, but what I didn’t expect is MFG-VAR to happen after running COS/WIP for a job that is complete and not closed. It was my understanding that WIP clears when a job is marked as Closed.

My understanding of MFG-VAR is any cost that has been applied to a job after it has been relived to inventory, shipped or WIP transferred to another job. Key word being “After”.

I know our finance team ran COS/WIP on 6/4, but backdated it to capture before 5/31.

As you can see on the Job Closing screen, the job is not Closed, only Complete.

Am I missing something? If MFG-VAR is captured after a Job is completed, I have some internal process that need to be changed. Which I also question, because I’ve seen WIP cost not move to MFG-VAR after a job is complete and COS/WIP being captured.

Any helped would be greatly appreciated!

What does the WIPCleared flag on the JobHead records look like? If it’s true, then the job was previously closed and someone reopened it.

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WIP Cleared = False.

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I have a change log on that table. The Job was never closed. You’ll see where I closed it today 8/21, however before that, it was never closed.

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It has always been my understanding that you only capture WIP on closed jobs for this exact reason. If the job is not closed, you are always risking something being added to the job (material, labor) which will result in a MFG-VAR because the COS has already run.

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@jkane I agree with you. The issue is that we were only closing Make Direct jobs, not Stock Jobs. So we have a ton of Jobs that need to be closed. When i ran the WIP report on those jobs I noticed that we added labor to jobs after they the jobs had been put into inventory. All of these jobs are complete and not closed. When I noticed this, I saw that MFG-VAR was showing up on the WIP report. I would expect that job cost to stay as WIP until the job was marked a Closed and then we Captured. That is not the case.

I am working on this also today and the mfg-var that I see before I close the job is phantom purge on the wip recon and then purge after capture.

KB on phantom purge
https://epiccare.epicor.com/epiccare?id=epiccare_kb_article&table=kb_knowledge&sys_id=62caf726db9b67007a572a9b8a961934&searchTerm=phantom%20purge

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@gpayne took my next question. Are they showing on the WIP Recon report as a true variance or a phantom purge?

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Everything we see on the WIP Recon report is Phantom Purge WIP to Variance.

Job Completed mean MFG-VAR trans are temporary and not posted?

Job Closed means MFG-VAR trans move from temporary posted?

So when does MFG-VAR show up in on the Part Tran table? After a job is completed? I would expect it to show after a job is closed.

@jkane, @gpayne and @Mark_Wonsil thank you for all your help!

The WIP Recon report is ESTIMATING what would happen if the job was closed. The transactions have not happened yet and will not happen until the job is closed and WIP is captured.

Technically, you could un-complete the job, reverse the job receipt to inventory, and then receive the job to inventory (again). If you run the wip recon report again, the variances should be gone.

Nothing posts until you run the capture process. Everything is theoretical until that is done. You can even mark the job as closed and nothing will post, everything will still be theoretical. It is the capture process that posts everything to the GL.

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That was my original assumption. But this job in particular has me stumped.

Job MO006826 was relieved to Inventory on 5/31. However cost were added after the Job Receipt to Inventory.

the Work in Process Report Show $7,118.86 has been sent to COS/MFG-VAR.

The Job was marked Completed and not closed until today. I checked the Change Log for job Complete > Closed.

MFG-VAR Posted on 5/31. Capture COS/WIP was process on 6/4, but cutoff at 5/31. Job was not marked as Closed. Only Complete.

I would expect the cost to remain as WIP until the Job is Closed. After that, the $7,118.86 would move to COS/MFG-VAR

What am I missing?

5/31 is the apply date, what is the Sysdate and time of that transaction? I did search for MFG-VAR KBs and there are a bunch. As long as the 7118 doesn’t capture twice I guess it is just a head scratcher.

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Was doing some research on something else and came across this. It is very interesting, but I would have to test it to understand it more.

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The Apply Date would have been 6/4 on this transaction. I went through tall the MFG-VAR transactions on the Inventory WIP/Recon report. It still doesn’t make sense that there was a MFG-VAR to post when the job was closed on 8/21.