Joe;
Yes, but we seldom have that small of a run quantity with short run hours,
or a lengthy setup.
When I first came here about a year ago NTF was having this type of a
"problem" but we found that we had setup/operator employees. Some employees
were just too lazy to clock off setup and onto production (especially if it
was a short run time). New management has separated setup ( they consider
it like indirect) and where practical setup is done "offline".
We also initiated a "Gains Sharing Program", employees are more interested
in clocking properly now when they know it can affect their bonus check.
Warren R. Eddy
Information Services Manager
National Tube Form, LLC
An Excaliber Company
e-mail -
Warren.Eddy@...
phone - 219 478-2363 ext 217
fax - 219 478-1043
So if you have a small run (5 pcs) and end up doing them
all in the process of setting up...
you would start production anyway and record 5 pcs
with virtually no labor time which would result in
a huge efficiency?
"Eddy, Warren" wrote:
>
> Joe;
>
> By APCS standards choice C is correct answer.
>
> Why can't the employee doing the production take all the pieces produced?
>
> Setup is just that, setup, I've worked for several mfg companies and
that's
> the way it's always been. I've never heard of a system (not that they
don't
> exist) that gives earned production hours for pieces reported under setup.
>
> For what it's worth that's my 2 cents worth.
>
> Warren R. Eddy
>
> Information Services Manager
>
> National Tube Form, LLC
>
> An Excaliber Company
>
> e-mail - Warren.Eddy@...
>
> phone - 219 478-2363 ext 217
>
> fax - 219 478-1043
>
> Does it bother anyone besides our company that earned hours
>
> get missed if parts are ran under setup?
>
> If I have an op with .5 hours setup, a prod standard of
>
> 10 pcs/hr and it's a 1000 pc run...
>
> The guy reports a 100% complete setup, reports running
>
> 10 pcs while under setup...
>
> Vantage shows only .5 earned hours. The 1 hour he should
>
> have earned from production is thrown away.
>
> I produce a correct labor edit report (as follows) but all the data
>
> in the system is tainted.
>
> We take the SetupEarned hours (.5) and then get a
>
> ProductionEarned hours from the pcs/rate... (1 hour)
>
> We add these together (TotalEarned) and divide by the burden
>
> hours to get efficiency.
>
> We take the SetupEarned/TotalEarned to give a percent
>
> of setup hours in the total. From this we get distributed setup
>
> hours from the reported hours.
>
> Then we take the ProductionEarned/TotalEarned to give a percent
>
> of production hours in the total. From this we get distributed
>
> production hours from the reported hours.
>
> Vantage at least do one of the following rather than
>
> discard the hours...
>
> A. Do the above calculation.
>
> B. Allow production and setup to be run on the same job/asm/op
>
> at the same time.
>
> C. Don't allow a production qty when running setup.
>
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By APCS standards choice C is correct answer.
Why can't the employee doing the production take all the pieces produced?
Setup is just that, setup, I've worked for several mfg companies and that's
the way it's always been. I've never heard of a system (not that they don't
exist) that gives earned production hours for pieces reported under setup.
For what it's worth that's my 2 cents worth.
Warren R. Eddy
Information Services Manager
National Tube Form, LLC
An Excaliber Company
e-mail -
Warren.Eddy@...
phone - 219 478-2363 ext 217
fax - 219 478-1043
Does it bother anyone besides our company that earned hours
get missed if parts are ran under setup?
If I have an op with .5 hours setup, a prod standard of
10 pcs/hr and it's a 1000 pc run...
The guy reports a 100% complete setup, reports running
10 pcs while under setup...
Vantage shows only .5 earned hours. The 1 hour he should
have earned from production is thrown away.
I produce a correct labor edit report (as follows) but all the data
in the system is tainted.
We take the SetupEarned hours (.5) and then get a
ProductionEarned hours from the pcs/rate... (1 hour)
We add these together (TotalEarned) and divide by the burden
hours to get efficiency.
We take the SetupEarned/TotalEarned to give a percent
of setup hours in the total. From this we get distributed setup
hours from the reported hours.
Then we take the ProductionEarned/TotalEarned to give a percent
of production hours in the total. From this we get distributed
production hours from the reported hours.
Vantage at least do one of the following rather than
discard the hours...
A. Do the above calculation.
B. Allow production and setup to be run on the same job/asm/op
at the same time.
C. Don't allow a production qty when running setup.
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