MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

.408 was found to have a problem creating methods for jobs by the MRP.
The problem was located and 408b should have resolved the issue. If the
problem recurs, there is a one off fix for it from development.



Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com









From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Brown
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b





That's great to hear Kunal. (Inspires some confidence.)
Fortuenately, we also do not use the configurator.
Thx again.
Rob Brown

________________________________
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@...
<mailto:kunal_vantage%40yahoo.com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:13:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b


You know, to be honest, I am pleasantly surprised with this one. I went
into this upgrade with a very negative attitude due to the numerous
problems we have had in the past with service packs and patches (which
is why we quit upgrading after 404b which was pretty stable).

So far, other than my original post about MRP, I have run into exactly 3
issues which were easily solved (broken report due to field name change,
and 1 customization spectacularly failing due to same reason, and reps
list in sales orders).

I have not heard from any of the business units about any major changes
or any "what the!?!." comments, yet! In the past, the complaints would
start pretty much immediately after an upgrade. If any issues crop up I
will certainly report them here.

Most of what I have seen, as far as problems go with 408, in this forum
was related to the product configurator - we do not use this, but will
be very shortly. Let's see what happens with that.

Thanks,
Kunal

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:43:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Thanks Kunal.

Certainly didn't want to spend time on 408 if it was trading one bad
problem for a worse one.

Rob

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:06:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Well, it turns out that MRP was showing inconsistent demand because some
of the sales orders were not set up correctly - so this problem was
user-created. I really have not dug into the part forms and other areas
where there are a lot of changes.

We had to rush to 408b because of a critical paypal update.

Thanks,
Kunal

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:17:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Kunal,

Please keep us posted on what you find to be the root cause.

We've held tight on 405a as, with all its flaws, at least we had
developed sufficient work-arounds - but there was an enhancement (EDI
related) and too-long awaited SCR fix (global finite scheduling) slated
for 408x that makes it the 1st update worth even considering for us to
put time/effort in to test for effectiveness & impact on current working
processes.

Is the problem with MRP suggestions in general (albeit 'random'),
Purchasing suggestions exclusively or Fab part suggestions (new unfirmed
jobs or job change suggestions) ?

Any chance the conversion reset Part, PartPlant or PartWhse planning
data (NonQtyBearing, Days In/Out MRP messaging filters/tolerances,
UseMRP, scrambled your Min O/Hs and/or Safeties, screwed up your
Allocations, screwed up your nettable/not- nettable O/Hs whse bin qty's,
or trashed your PartMtl data) to 'default' values (or flat out randomly
incorrect converted values)?

(Have you done a quick before/after conversion compare of all the
critical planning related table data - and verified your company setup
defaults for planning/scheduling weren't changed by the update process?)

Rob Brown

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: Vantage Yahoo Group <vantage@yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12:57 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Just wanted to throw this out there - we are digging into the issue
right now...

After an upgrade last night from 404b to 408 and finally 408b, MRP is
not making suggestions for certain parts. Not sure if the issue is with
the part or the sales order...

Thanks,
Kunal

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Just wanted to throw this out there - we are digging into the issue right now...

After an upgrade last night from 404b to 408 and finally 408b, MRP is not making suggestions for certain parts. Not sure if the issue is with the part or the sales order...

Thanks,
Kunal





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Kunal,

Please keep us posted on what you find to be the root cause.

We've held tight on 405a as, with all its flaws, at least we had developed sufficient work-arounds - but there was an enhancement (EDI related) and too-long awaited SCR fix (global finite scheduling) slated for 408x that makes it the 1st update worth even considering for us to put time/effort in to test for effectiveness & impact on current working processes.

Is the problem with MRP suggestions in general (albeit 'random'), Purchasing suggestions exclusively or Fab part suggestions (new unfirmed jobs or job change suggestions)?

Any chance the conversion reset Part, PartPlant or PartWhse planning data (NonQtyBearing, Days In/Out MRP messaging filters/tolerances, UseMRP, scrambled your Min O/Hs and/or Safeties, screwed up your Allocations, screwed up your nettable/not-nettable O/Hs whse bin qty's, or trashed your PartMtl data) to 'default' values (or flat out randomly incorrect converted values)?

(Have you done a quick before/after conversion compare of all the critical planning related table data - and verified your company setup defaults for planning/scheduling weren't changed by the update process?)

Rob Brown




________________________________
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@...>
To: Vantage Yahoo Group <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12:57 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b


Just wanted to throw this out there - we are digging into the issue right now...

After an upgrade last night from 404b to 408 and finally 408b, MRP is not making suggestions for certain parts. Not sure if the issue is with the part or the sales order...

Thanks,
Kunal

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Well, it turns out that MRP was showing inconsistent demand because some of the sales orders were not set up correctly - so this problem was user-created. I really have not dug into the part forms and other areas where there are a lot of changes.

We had to rush to 408b because of a critical paypal update.

Thanks,
Kunal




________________________________
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:17:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b


Kunal,

Please keep us posted on what you find to be the root cause.

We've held tight on 405a as, with all its flaws, at least we had developed sufficient work-arounds - but there was an enhancement (EDI related) and too-long awaited SCR fix (global finite scheduling) slated for 408x that makes it the 1st update worth even considering for us to put time/effort in to test for effectiveness & impact on current working processes.

Is the problem with MRP suggestions in general (albeit 'random'), Purchasing suggestions exclusively or Fab part suggestions (new unfirmed jobs or job change suggestions) ?

Any chance the conversion reset Part, PartPlant or PartWhse planning data (NonQtyBearing, Days In/Out MRP messaging filters/tolerances, UseMRP, scrambled your Min O/Hs and/or Safeties, screwed up your Allocations, screwed up your nettable/not- nettable O/Hs whse bin qty's, or trashed your PartMtl data) to 'default' values (or flat out randomly incorrect converted values)?

(Have you done a quick before/after conversion compare of all the critical planning related table data - and verified your company setup defaults for planning/scheduling weren't changed by the update process?)

Rob Brown

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: Vantage Yahoo Group <vantage@yahoogroups .com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12:57 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Just wanted to throw this out there - we are digging into the issue right now...

After an upgrade last night from 404b to 408 and finally 408b, MRP is not making suggestions for certain parts. Not sure if the issue is with the part or the sales order...

Thanks,
Kunal

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Thanks Kunal.

Certainly didn't want to spend time on 408 if it was trading one bad problem for a worse one.

Rob




________________________________
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:06:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b


Well, it turns out that MRP was showing inconsistent demand because some of the sales orders were not set up correctly - so this problem was user-created. I really have not dug into the part forms and other areas where there are a lot of changes.

We had to rush to 408b because of a critical paypal update.

Thanks,
Kunal

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:17:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Kunal,

Please keep us posted on what you find to be the root cause.

We've held tight on 405a as, with all its flaws, at least we had developed sufficient work-arounds - but there was an enhancement (EDI related) and too-long awaited SCR fix (global finite scheduling) slated for 408x that makes it the 1st update worth even considering for us to put time/effort in to test for effectiveness & impact on current working processes.

Is the problem with MRP suggestions in general (albeit 'random'), Purchasing suggestions exclusively or Fab part suggestions (new unfirmed jobs or job change suggestions) ?

Any chance the conversion reset Part, PartPlant or PartWhse planning data (NonQtyBearing, Days In/Out MRP messaging filters/tolerances, UseMRP, scrambled your Min O/Hs and/or Safeties, screwed up your Allocations, screwed up your nettable/not- nettable O/Hs whse bin qty's, or trashed your PartMtl data) to 'default' values (or flat out randomly incorrect converted values)?

(Have you done a quick before/after conversion compare of all the critical planning related table data - and verified your company setup defaults for planning/scheduling weren't changed by the update process?)

Rob Brown

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: Vantage Yahoo Group <vantage@yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12:57 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Just wanted to throw this out there - we are digging into the issue right now...

After an upgrade last night from 404b to 408 and finally 408b, MRP is not making suggestions for certain parts. Not sure if the issue is with the part or the sales order...

Thanks,
Kunal

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You know, to be honest, I am pleasantly surprised with this one. I went into this upgrade with a very negative attitude due to the numerous problems we have had in the past with service packs and patches (which is why we quit upgrading after 404b which was pretty stable).

So far, other than my original post about MRP, I have run into exactly 3 issues which were easily solved (broken report due to field name change, and 1 customization spectacularly failing due to same reason, and reps list in sales orders).

I have not heard from any of the business units about any major changes or any "what the!?!." comments, yet! In the past, the complaints would start pretty much immediately after an upgrade. If any issues crop up I will certainly report them here.

Most of what I have seen, as far as problems go with 408, in this forum was related to the product configurator - we do not use this, but will be very shortly. Let's see what happens with that.

Thanks,
Kunal




________________________________
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:43:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b


Thanks Kunal.

Certainly didn't want to spend time on 408 if it was trading one bad problem for a worse one.

Rob

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:06:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Well, it turns out that MRP was showing inconsistent demand because some of the sales orders were not set up correctly - so this problem was user-created. I really have not dug into the part forms and other areas where there are a lot of changes.

We had to rush to 408b because of a critical paypal update.

Thanks,
Kunal

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:17:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Kunal,

Please keep us posted on what you find to be the root cause.

We've held tight on 405a as, with all its flaws, at least we had developed sufficient work-arounds - but there was an enhancement (EDI related) and too-long awaited SCR fix (global finite scheduling) slated for 408x that makes it the 1st update worth even considering for us to put time/effort in to test for effectiveness & impact on current working processes.

Is the problem with MRP suggestions in general (albeit 'random'), Purchasing suggestions exclusively or Fab part suggestions (new unfirmed jobs or job change suggestions) ?

Any chance the conversion reset Part, PartPlant or PartWhse planning data (NonQtyBearing, Days In/Out MRP messaging filters/tolerances, UseMRP, scrambled your Min O/Hs and/or Safeties, screwed up your Allocations, screwed up your nettable/not- nettable O/Hs whse bin qty's, or trashed your PartMtl data) to 'default' values (or flat out randomly incorrect converted values)?

(Have you done a quick before/after conversion compare of all the critical planning related table data - and verified your company setup defaults for planning/scheduling weren't changed by the update process?)

Rob Brown

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: Vantage Yahoo Group <vantage@yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12:57 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Just wanted to throw this out there - we are digging into the issue right now...

After an upgrade last night from 404b to 408 and finally 408b, MRP is not making suggestions for certain parts. Not sure if the issue is with the part or the sales order...

Thanks,
Kunal

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That's great to hear Kunal. (Inspires some confidence.)
Fortuenately, we also do not use the configurator.
Thx again.
Rob Brown




________________________________
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:13:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

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You know, to be honest, I am pleasantly surprised with this one. I went into this upgrade with a very negative attitude due to the numerous problems we have had in the past with service packs and patches (which is why we quit upgrading after 404b which was pretty stable).

So far, other than my original post about MRP, I have run into exactly 3 issues which were easily solved (broken report due to field name change, and 1 customization spectacularly failing due to same reason, and reps list in sales orders).

I have not heard from any of the business units about any major changes or any "what the!?!." comments, yet! In the past, the complaints would start pretty much immediately after an upgrade. If any issues crop up I will certainly report them here.

Most of what I have seen, as far as problems go with 408, in this forum was related to the product configurator - we do not use this, but will be very shortly. Let's see what happens with that.

Thanks,
Kunal

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:43:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Thanks Kunal.

Certainly didn't want to spend time on 408 if it was trading one bad problem for a worse one.

Rob

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:06:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Well, it turns out that MRP was showing inconsistent demand because some of the sales orders were not set up correctly - so this problem was user-created. I really have not dug into the part forms and other areas where there are a lot of changes.

We had to rush to 408b because of a critical paypal update.

Thanks,
Kunal

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Robert Brown <robertb_versa@ yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:17:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Kunal,

Please keep us posted on what you find to be the root cause.

We've held tight on 405a as, with all its flaws, at least we had developed sufficient work-arounds - but there was an enhancement (EDI related) and too-long awaited SCR fix (global finite scheduling) slated for 408x that makes it the 1st update worth even considering for us to put time/effort in to test for effectiveness & impact on current working processes.

Is the problem with MRP suggestions in general (albeit 'random'), Purchasing suggestions exclusively or Fab part suggestions (new unfirmed jobs or job change suggestions) ?

Any chance the conversion reset Part, PartPlant or PartWhse planning data (NonQtyBearing, Days In/Out MRP messaging filters/tolerances, UseMRP, scrambled your Min O/Hs and/or Safeties, screwed up your Allocations, screwed up your nettable/not- nettable O/Hs whse bin qty's, or trashed your PartMtl data) to 'default' values (or flat out randomly incorrect converted values)?

(Have you done a quick before/after conversion compare of all the critical planning related table data - and verified your company setup defaults for planning/scheduling weren't changed by the update process?)

Rob Brown

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Kunal Ganguly <kunal_vantage@ yahoo.com>
To: Vantage Yahoo Group <vantage@yahoogroup s .com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12:57 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MRP issues after upgrading to 408b

Just wanted to throw this out there - we are digging into the issue right now...

After an upgrade last night from 404b to 408 and finally 408b, MRP is not making suggestions for certain parts. Not sure if the issue is with the part or the sales order...

Thanks,
Kunal

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