Need Scheduling Suggestion

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Create a resource group with $0 costs for both labor & burden, setup &
production and quoting. Example: Engineering. Use the appropriate
calendar for the resource group (probably not the same as the shop
calendar).

Create a resource or resources for the responsible area(s). Example -
Engineer.

Create an Operation Mater of Review CAD Dwgs and tie the operation to
the resource/resource group required.

Add/drag operation to method or job with appropriate amount of fixed
hours to be allotted as the operation standard.

Schedule the job. It will account for the fixed number of hours in the
operation and calculate the start date of the first operation.



By adding this to your method, once this op is completed, someone should
use labor entry, office MES, shop MES or Job adjustment to indicate that
the operation has been completed otherwise you will have a scheduling
dilemma. The benefit by doing it is that you now who performed the task
as if it were a shop floor operation. Whoever the shop employee is, you
will want to make sure the shop labor rate for that employee is $0 or
you will result in a job cost.





Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com









From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Need Scheduling Suggestion



TGIF!

Can someone please offer a suggestion on how I could accomplish this?

I'd like to set up an Operation that is solely used as "Queue Time" or
simply a placeholder for time without any cost accumulations or impact.

Here's what we'd use it for: Our manufactured assemblies that go into
our top Part/Kit each require varying timeframes for the overall
research and part procurement process or engineering processes. I
simply want an operation on a job that is a time holder that will allow
more accurate scheduling times for these manual processes.

For example, Op Seq 40: Review CAD drawings for subassemblies (4 hours)

I don't want Setup time because that has costs associated with it.....
these are non-cost/non-burdened items.....

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance!

Vic Drecchio
ERP Administrator

TIMCO Aviation Services
Greensboro, NC
Email: vic.drecchio@... <mailto:vic.drecchio%40timco.aero>
Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
Mobile: 704.530.3092

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TGIF!



Can someone please offer a suggestion on how I could accomplish this?



I'd like to set up an Operation that is solely used as "Queue Time" or
simply a placeholder for time without any cost accumulations or impact.



Here's what we'd use it for: Our manufactured assemblies that go into
our top Part/Kit each require varying timeframes for the overall
research and part procurement process or engineering processes. I
simply want an operation on a job that is a time holder that will allow
more accurate scheduling times for these manual processes.



For example, Op Seq 40: Review CAD drawings for subassemblies (4 hours)



I don't want Setup time because that has costs associated with it.....
these are non-cost/non-burdened items.....



Any ideas?



Thank you in advance!





Vic Drecchio
ERP Administrator

TIMCO Aviation Services
Greensboro, NC
Email: vic.drecchio@...
Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
Mobile: 704.530.3092





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> I'd like to set up an Operation that is solely used as "Queue Time" or
> simply a placeholder for time without any cost accumulations or impact.

Couldn't you use the Queue Hours that is available on each resource or
resource group under the scheduling panel? Each group/resource also has
"Move Hours" tacked on to the end of the operation optionally.

Mark W.
4
Either Queue or Move time or since you have specific tasks, just set
up the Operations, Resource Groups, and Resources but do not assign
any dollars to to setup or production burden and if you have people
logging in completing the Operation they either have a custom shop
employee with 0 dollars or maybe they are overhead anyways and never
would have a direct labor rate.

It works great to setup an engineering operation or quality or ? as
you can now use all of the scheduling and shop load tools and track
the items as compared to Move time just adding delays without knowledge.

pat

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to set up an Operation that is solely used as "Queue Time" or
> > simply a placeholder for time without any cost accumulations or
impact.
>
> Couldn't you use the Queue Hours that is available on each resource or
> resource group under the scheduling panel? Each group/resource also has
> "Move Hours" tacked on to the end of the operation optionally.
>
> Mark W.
>
5
Vic,

Try a 4 hr Move on the prior OP's reosurce group(s) and/or explicit resource(s).

No cost involved.
No additional labor activity reporting required...

Just holds the 4 hr OP offset spacing until someone actually clocks in on the next 'real' OP.

Rob

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:

From: Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Need Scheduling Suggestion
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 9:01 AM






TGIF!

Can someone please offer a suggestion on how I could accomplish this?

I'd like to set up an Operation that is solely used as "Queue Time" or
simply a placeholder for time without any cost accumulations or impact.

Here's what we'd use it for: Our manufactured assemblies that go into
our top Part/Kit each require varying timeframes for the overall
research and part procurement process or engineering processes. I
simply want an operation on a job that is a time holder that will allow
more accurate scheduling times for these manual processes.

For example, Op Seq 40: Review CAD drawings for subassemblies (4 hours)

I don't want Setup time because that has costs associated with it.....
these are non-cost/non- burdened items.....

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance!

Vic Drecchio
ERP Administrator

TIMCO Aviation Services
Greensboro, NC
Email: vic.drecchio@ timco.aero
Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
Mobile: 704.530.3092

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I agree entirely re using Move time. That's what we did, except that
we "invented" several new operations for different types of products
(or more correctly different Work Centres), and the move time
pertained just to them. We found that an easier way to manage things
without messing with existing operations. We chose to make the Move
times concurrent/parallel with other operations, which meant that the
job would always schedule for at least as long as the Move, but
longer if the other operations ended up overshooting the length of
the Move. I hope that makes sense. Honestly, our MRP scheduling
would have been impossible without it. You may also want to limit
the max job lot size to prevent major blow outs of the Move time...
This will makes sense if you see it happening...

This becomes very easy to tweak when you find that a particular
resource becomes more (or less) efficient - just alter the move
time.

Make sure you don't accidentally put Move time anywhere you don't
need it - eg on subcontract work.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robertb_versa@...>
wrote:
>
> Vic,
>
> Try a 4 hr Move on the prior OP's reosurce group(s) and/or explicit
resource(s).
>
> No cost involved.
> No additional labor activity reporting required...
>
> Just holds the 4 hr OP offset spacing until someone actually clocks
in on the next 'real' OP.
>
> Rob
>
> --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:
>
> From: Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...>
> Subject: [Vantage] Need Scheduling Suggestion
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 9:01 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TGIF!
>
> Can someone please offer a suggestion on how I could accomplish
this?
>
> I'd like to set up an Operation that is solely used as "Queue Time"
or
> simply a placeholder for time without any cost accumulations or
impact.
>
> Here's what we'd use it for: Our manufactured assemblies that go
into
> our top Part/Kit each require varying timeframes for the overall
> research and part procurement process or engineering processes. I
> simply want an operation on a job that is a time holder that will
allow
> more accurate scheduling times for these manual processes.
>
> For example, Op Seq 40: Review CAD drawings for subassemblies (4
hours)
>
> I don't want Setup time because that has costs associated with
it.....
> these are non-cost/non- burdened items.....
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Vic Drecchio
> ERP Administrator
>
> TIMCO Aviation Services
> Greensboro, NC
> Email: vic.drecchio@ timco.aero
> Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> Mobile: 704.530.3092
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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I do something in version 6.1 a little different because I want to use this from time to time in different places and situations but not necessarily make it a part of a part's BOM (but I could). I establish a dummy workcenter with no burden costs and an operation with no labor costs. Plug them in wherever you like and make the production rate whatever you need in fixed hours.

Greg

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Brown
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Need Scheduling Suggestion


Vic,

Try a 4 hr Move on the prior OP's reosurce group(s) and/or explicit resource(s).

No cost involved.
No additional labor activity reporting required...

Just holds the 4 hr OP offset spacing until someone actually clocks in on the next 'real' OP.

Rob

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...> wrote:

From: Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Need Scheduling Suggestion
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 9:01 AM

TGIF!

Can someone please offer a suggestion on how I could accomplish this?

I'd like to set up an Operation that is solely used as "Queue Time" or
simply a placeholder for time without any cost accumulations or impact.

Here's what we'd use it for: Our manufactured assemblies that go into
our top Part/Kit each require varying timeframes for the overall
research and part procurement process or engineering processes. I
simply want an operation on a job that is a time holder that will allow
more accurate scheduling times for these manual processes.

For example, Op Seq 40: Review CAD drawings for subassemblies (4 hours)

I don't want Setup time because that has costs associated with it.....
these are non-cost/non- burdened items.....

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance!

Vic Drecchio
ERP Administrator

TIMCO Aviation Services
Greensboro, NC
Email: vic.drecchio@ timco.aero
Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
Mobile: 704.530.3092

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