New Part Numbers

Emily,



If I understood your original question, I think if you do not put a date
in the sales order it defaults to some weird number in the year 2099.
At least that is what it will show when you go to the planning workbench
to create a job linked to the sales order.







Manasa

630.806.2000 x1515





________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Emily
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:27 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: New Part Numbers





All of our part numbers have a rhyme and reason behind them and the only
problem we run in to the part numbers specifically is the issue with the
one operation happening for each and every part number. The need to
stall the order getting out to manufacturing isn't necessarily the
specific part number but more of the bill of materials being created,
securing approved drawings and getting drawings attached to the BOMs.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> > After many heated discussions,
> I've been in a few of these too.
>
> When I started at one place, they were crazy about coded part numbers.
> Their numbering system had already been in place for about 10 years,
was hard to maintain/understand. There were many instances where the
codes were ambiguous and broke down.
> I was so happy when the switch to 6-digit non-significant numbers was
finally made.
>
> Now there are times when I actually miss the coded numbers.
> It can be nice to look at a part number, know it's properties without
the need to refer to other fields. Especially when I'm working with
standard lists that do not include the related information fields.
>
> Recently... I was stuck with a part number problem. It was finally
decided to add a coded suffix to the part numbers involved.
> It felt strange but, I think it was the best answer.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"sertyban" <sertyban@> wrote:
> >
> > After many heated discussions, we decided to eliminate all part
number discussions outright and implemented 5-digit non-descriptive part
numbers (five random digits). As soon as you take out any meaning from
part numbers the life becomes much easier. There are sufficient number
of existing and custom fields to convey whatever information about parts
you want. The only purpose of part number is to be unique id; nothing
more...
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Emily,
> > >
> > > What you are doing must work, but it's something I never would
have thought of doing. So, I'm curious about a few things.
> > >
> > > - Are the special parts nonstock?
> > > - Are their methods similar & what are they like?
> > > - Is it the "Needed by" date on a Sale Order that is set to
11/11/11?
> > > - What version of Vantage?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
, "Kevin Simon" <ksimon@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Date it 12/12/12??? Works for one more year.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> > > > Emily
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:34 PM
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] New Part Numbers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are curious about how other businesses handle similar
situations. We do
> > > > lot of custom manufactured parts and each as their own "special"
part number
> > > > (different than our standard product line part numbers). Most
times we'll
> > > > have been working on developing the special part but do not
enter any
> > > > information in to Epicor until the PO is actually received. We
would then
> > > > enter the order and then date the order for 11/11/11 to push the
order out
> > > > far enough so the engineering department could create the bill
of materials,
> > > > attach the appropriate customer approved drawings and overall
"engineer" the
> > > > part number and associated pieces of information (all before
production
> > > > would see the order and get started on it possibly before all
the details
> > > > were finalized with the customer). Now with 11/11/11 falling in
this years
> > > > date range we wondered what other businesses do in a similar
situation?
> > > > We're great at making Epicor work the way we want to rather than
changing
> > > > our own behaviors and using Epicor the way it is meant to be
used. Any
> > > > guidance on how any of you do this would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
> > > > in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Emily
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We are curious about how other businesses handle similar situations. We do lot of custom manufactured parts and each as their own "special" part number (different than our standard product line part numbers). Most times we'll have been working on developing the special part but do not enter any information in to Epicor until the PO is actually received. We would then enter the order and then date the order for 11/11/11 to push the order out far enough so the engineering department could create the bill of materials, attach the appropriate customer approved drawings and overall "engineer" the part number and associated pieces of information (all before production would see the order and get started on it possibly before all the details were finalized with the customer). Now with 11/11/11 falling in this years date range we wondered what other businesses do in a similar situation? We're great at making Epicor work the way we want to rather than changing our own behaviors and using Epicor the way it is meant to be used. Any guidance on how any of you do this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance.

Emily
Date it 12/12/12??? Works for one more year.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Emily
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] New Part Numbers





We are curious about how other businesses handle similar situations. We do
lot of custom manufactured parts and each as their own "special" part number
(different than our standard product line part numbers). Most times we'll
have been working on developing the special part but do not enter any
information in to Epicor until the PO is actually received. We would then
enter the order and then date the order for 11/11/11 to push the order out
far enough so the engineering department could create the bill of materials,
attach the appropriate customer approved drawings and overall "engineer" the
part number and associated pieces of information (all before production
would see the order and get started on it possibly before all the details
were finalized with the customer). Now with 11/11/11 falling in this years
date range we wondered what other businesses do in a similar situation?
We're great at making Epicor work the way we want to rather than changing
our own behaviors and using Epicor the way it is meant to be used. Any
guidance on how any of you do this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
in advance.

Emily





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
After many heated discussions, we decided to eliminate all part number discussions outright and implemented 5-digit non-descriptive part numbers (five random digits). As soon as you take out any meaning from part numbers the life becomes much easier. There are sufficient number of existing and custom fields to convey whatever information about parts you want. The only purpose of part number is to be unique id; nothing more...

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Emily,
>
> What you are doing must work, but it's something I never would have thought of doing. So, I'm curious about a few things.
>
> - Are the special parts nonstock?
> - Are their methods similar & what are they like?
> - Is it the "Needed by" date on a Sale Order that is set to 11/11/11?
> - What version of Vantage?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Simon" <ksimon@> wrote:
> >
> > Date it 12/12/12??? Works for one more year.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Emily
> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:34 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] New Part Numbers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We are curious about how other businesses handle similar situations. We do
> > lot of custom manufactured parts and each as their own "special" part number
> > (different than our standard product line part numbers). Most times we'll
> > have been working on developing the special part but do not enter any
> > information in to Epicor until the PO is actually received. We would then
> > enter the order and then date the order for 11/11/11 to push the order out
> > far enough so the engineering department could create the bill of materials,
> > attach the appropriate customer approved drawings and overall "engineer" the
> > part number and associated pieces of information (all before production
> > would see the order and get started on it possibly before all the details
> > were finalized with the customer). Now with 11/11/11 falling in this years
> > date range we wondered what other businesses do in a similar situation?
> > We're great at making Epicor work the way we want to rather than changing
> > our own behaviors and using Epicor the way it is meant to be used. Any
> > guidance on how any of you do this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
> > in advance.
> >
> > Emily
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
We have a very "interesting" part numbering system. Yes our specials are nonstock. We manufacture industrial casters and in recent years we've stopped stocking complete casters. We stock some manufactured components of the caster but not a completely assembled caster. Our specials are sometimes slight modifications of standard casters but receive a special number because they are not "standard" casters. Also our special part numbers are not even close to our other standard part numbers (special numbers are related to the date the special number is created SPD20110107). As for the methods, many of the operations are similar on special and standard casters (machining wheels, welding top plates, forming legs, etc.) but the way our part numbering system is structured is that every time a part has something done to it (one operation) the part number changes. For example an raw core's part number is 000001 and then when it is machined in to a wheel it is 000002 (the material for the machining operation is 000001) then when the machined wheel is painted it's number is 000003 (material for that is 000002). We don't have any parts that have multiple operations (a couple of our sister company's part numbers are setup different and follow a more tradition 5 steps to make the part number of "widget"). We're aware of the challenges this creates for us.

The Need By date is changed once engineering calls/emails Sales and says that the part number is engineered and ready to go. Sales then completes the sales order and creates a job from within the sales order.

Before we were really running with job creation and work off of jobs our manufacturing team would look at the open orders report, and looking at the need by dates and scheduling their work off of that. The 11/11/11 worked great because it make the orders fall to the bottom and by the time manufacturing looked at those upcoming orders all the necessary engineering work would have occurred.

We are currently running Epicor 9.05.602A

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Emily,
>
> What you are doing must work, but it's something I never would have thought of doing. So, I'm curious about a few things.
>
> - Are the special parts nonstock?
> - Are their methods similar & what are they like?
> - Is it the "Needed by" date on a Sale Order that is set to 11/11/11?
> - What version of Vantage?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Simon" <ksimon@> wrote:
> >
> > Date it 12/12/12??? Works for one more year.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Emily
> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:34 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] New Part Numbers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We are curious about how other businesses handle similar situations. We do
> > lot of custom manufactured parts and each as their own "special" part number
> > (different than our standard product line part numbers). Most times we'll
> > have been working on developing the special part but do not enter any
> > information in to Epicor until the PO is actually received. We would then
> > enter the order and then date the order for 11/11/11 to push the order out
> > far enough so the engineering department could create the bill of materials,
> > attach the appropriate customer approved drawings and overall "engineer" the
> > part number and associated pieces of information (all before production
> > would see the order and get started on it possibly before all the details
> > were finalized with the customer). Now with 11/11/11 falling in this years
> > date range we wondered what other businesses do in a similar situation?
> > We're great at making Epicor work the way we want to rather than changing
> > our own behaviors and using Epicor the way it is meant to be used. Any
> > guidance on how any of you do this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
> > in advance.
> >
> > Emily
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
All of our part numbers have a rhyme and reason behind them and the only problem we run in to the part numbers specifically is the issue with the one operation happening for each and every part number. The need to stall the order getting out to manufacturing isn't necessarily the specific part number but more of the bill of materials being created, securing approved drawings and getting drawings attached to the BOMs.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@...> wrote:
>
> > After many heated discussions,
> I've been in a few of these too.
>
> When I started at one place, they were crazy about coded part numbers.
> Their numbering system had already been in place for about 10 years, was hard to maintain/understand. There were many instances where the codes were ambiguous and broke down.
> I was so happy when the switch to 6-digit non-significant numbers was finally made.
>
> Now there are times when I actually miss the coded numbers.
> It can be nice to look at a part number, know it's properties without the need to refer to other fields. Especially when I'm working with standard lists that do not include the related information fields.
>
> Recently... I was stuck with a part number problem. It was finally decided to add a coded suffix to the part numbers involved.
> It felt strange but, I think it was the best answer.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "sertyban" <sertyban@> wrote:
> >
> > After many heated discussions, we decided to eliminate all part number discussions outright and implemented 5-digit non-descriptive part numbers (five random digits). As soon as you take out any meaning from part numbers the life becomes much easier. There are sufficient number of existing and custom fields to convey whatever information about parts you want. The only purpose of part number is to be unique id; nothing more...
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "cooner_55421" <cooner_55421@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Emily,
> > >
> > > What you are doing must work, but it's something I never would have thought of doing. So, I'm curious about a few things.
> > >
> > > - Are the special parts nonstock?
> > > - Are their methods similar & what are they like?
> > > - Is it the "Needed by" date on a Sale Order that is set to 11/11/11?
> > > - What version of Vantage?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Simon" <ksimon@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Date it 12/12/12??? Works for one more year.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > Emily
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:34 PM
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] New Part Numbers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are curious about how other businesses handle similar situations. We do
> > > > lot of custom manufactured parts and each as their own "special" part number
> > > > (different than our standard product line part numbers). Most times we'll
> > > > have been working on developing the special part but do not enter any
> > > > information in to Epicor until the PO is actually received. We would then
> > > > enter the order and then date the order for 11/11/11 to push the order out
> > > > far enough so the engineering department could create the bill of materials,
> > > > attach the appropriate customer approved drawings and overall "engineer" the
> > > > part number and associated pieces of information (all before production
> > > > would see the order and get started on it possibly before all the details
> > > > were finalized with the customer). Now with 11/11/11 falling in this years
> > > > date range we wondered what other businesses do in a similar situation?
> > > > We're great at making Epicor work the way we want to rather than changing
> > > > our own behaviors and using Epicor the way it is meant to be used. Any
> > > > guidance on how any of you do this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
> > > > in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Emily
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>