O.T. Backup Solutions

We are overkill in our backups here in that we have three different tools
that we use. First we use Symantec Backup Exec to do our routine backups to
an LTO, which are taken offsite daily. We also use SBE to do an external HD
backup of the entire server that will then use Symantec Backup Exec System
Recovery to allow us to quickly replace the entire server in case something
catastrophic were to happen and our server was destroyed (i.e. a fire has
happened before and destroyed the server). I rotate in an external HD once
a week to keep a fresh copy off site. And last of all we do a nightly
offsite backup to our old server of the Vantage database and file sharing
program for our sister company. We use free third party software to do this
nightly backup.



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
k99ja04
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: O.T. Backup Solutions





As with any enterprise application the choices are many and really depend on
how much you want to lighten the wallet. We are using Symantec BackupExec
12.5 and are happy with it. The interface is very graphical and doesn't take
a programmer to configure and use. We use the SQL version of Vantage and
opted to buy the SQL Agent. Symantec offers agents for just about any app
like Exchange or Sharepoint you want to backup, but they can get pricey. We
also use the Exchange agent which is slick in that you can restore down to a
single email message without restoring the entire information store. I think
the base app is ballpark $800 per server license and each agent really
depends.

If we wanted bottom dollar we could have scheduled a SQL job to write the db
to disk and use the built in Windows Backup to grab the files. I'm not
familiar with the exact Progress version specifics, but you would have to
ideally stop the db and use proutil to write the backups then use your
favorite utility to grab the files. Most enterprise backup apps allow you to
run commands to accomplish stopping / starting the db, which is really the
point with backing up Vantage.

From a storage approach we have a nearline RAID 10 appliance that we backup
to daily, then perform weekly backups to external hard drives that get
rotated offsite. We maintain about 6 months of backups. In my opinion tape
drives are essentially dead these days. You can buy mirrored hard drive RAID
appliances with greater capacity for less than the cost of a single LTO3
tape drive.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"timdines@..." <tdines@...> wrote:
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> I am looking at backup and recovery solutions and just wondering what
others are using and what they like or dislike. I am talking about
enterprise backups, not just Vantage. What do you prefer?
>





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I am looking at backup and recovery solutions and just wondering what others are using and what they like or dislike. I am talking about enterprise backups, not just Vantage. What do you prefer?
Me too. I am really interested in backing up to the cloud. Anyone doing this?



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of timdines@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:36 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] O.T. Backup Solutions





I am looking at backup and recovery solutions and just wondering what others are using and what they like or dislike. I am talking about enterprise backups, not just Vantage. What do you prefer?





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We backup all our PC's and servers to a server then to an LTO2 tape drive
(disk-to-disk-to-tape). We do not backup to the cloud, but we do have a
tape rotation with off-site storage. We are using EMC's Retrospect
Multi-Server product. I selected it because I was familiar with writing
scripts for it from a Macintosh environment at a previous job, because it's
easy to use and because it was less expensive than most of the other
products I looked at. It has served us well for the past 6 years.

We are currently working on a project to upgrade our servers and network.
We briefly considered replacing Retrospect with Microsoft's Systems Center
Backup tool, but we decided the extra cost for software and the extra time
learning a new tool and recreating existing scripts were not worth the
limited benefits we would gain in our environment (at least not this year,
we will re-evaluate next year).

Good Luck,

Dan Snyder
IT Manager
Mercury Electronics
717-428-0222 ext.224


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Butler, Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] O.T. Backup Solutions




Me too. I am really interested in backing up to the cloud. Anyone doing
this?

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Subject: [Vantage] O.T. Backup Solutions

I am looking at backup and recovery solutions and just wondering what others
are using and what they like or dislike. I am talking about enterprise
backups, not just Vantage. What do you prefer?

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As with any enterprise application the choices are many and really depend on how much you want to lighten the wallet. We are using Symantec BackupExec 12.5 and are happy with it. The interface is very graphical and doesn't take a programmer to configure and use. We use the SQL version of Vantage and opted to buy the SQL Agent. Symantec offers agents for just about any app like Exchange or Sharepoint you want to backup, but they can get pricey. We also use the Exchange agent which is slick in that you can restore down to a single email message without restoring the entire information store. I think the base app is ballpark $800 per server license and each agent really depends.

If we wanted bottom dollar we could have scheduled a SQL job to write the db to disk and use the built in Windows Backup to grab the files. I'm not familiar with the exact Progress version specifics, but you would have to ideally stop the db and use proutil to write the backups then use your favorite utility to grab the files. Most enterprise backup apps allow you to run commands to accomplish stopping / starting the db, which is really the point with backing up Vantage.

From a storage approach we have a nearline RAID 10 appliance that we backup to daily, then perform weekly backups to external hard drives that get rotated offsite. We maintain about 6 months of backups. In my opinion tape drives are essentially dead these days. You can buy mirrored hard drive RAID appliances with greater capacity for less than the cost of a single LTO3 tape drive.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "timdines@..." <tdines@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking at backup and recovery solutions and just wondering what others are using and what they like or dislike. I am talking about enterprise backups, not just Vantage. What do you prefer?
>