[Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

system · January 14, 2004, 12:42pm

Thanks to all for anti-virus feedback !

-----Original Message-----
From: pennstatetool [mailto:johne@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Todd,
We've been using the free version 6 of the AVG software for several
years on our production machines, and it's been great. Way back when,
the licensing was free to anyone/anywhere, but they have since
changed that to not being free for commercial use anymore. It's not
very configurable, but it also doesn't seem to affect Vantage or
anything else, it just sits in the background doing it's job.

John Elder
Penn State Tool & Die

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Todd Anderson <tanderson@j...> wrote:
> Under things that shouldn't be column ...
>
> One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was
acting
> "strange".
>
> Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
clean on
> a full sweep.
>
> Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.
>
> Clearly though, something is "strange".
>
> Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and
low and
> behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted.
PC now
> runs great.
>
> Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus
software of
> late?
>
> Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
basis?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 9:51am

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

system · January 14, 2004, 10:01am

We also have a fellow who had trouble of a similar
nature with his XP-Pro machine at home.

www.hacker-eliminator.com

is the way he went.

Interesting talk about some sort of routine that comes
in through IRC and has, among other features, the ability
to shut down Norton AV.

Just another stop on Life's Great Smorgasbord I guess.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 10:06am

I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running
multiple virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated
most packages didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda
would get them all. I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've
encountered a machine where it scanned clean for viri, spyware, and
Trojans. I finally tracked it down to REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This
unseen function was running from a legitimate install of Real Play.
Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning, blocked access to
certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to say Real Player
was purged. The system ran fine after that.
At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in
a heartbeat if I find something better.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low
and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 10:14am

Hi Shirley,

I am curious why Norton has fallen from your favor.

It is so widely used, can so many be wrong?

What about McAfee?

Thanks,

John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running
multiple virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated
most packages didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda
would get them all. I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've
encountered a machine where it scanned clean for viri, spyware, and
Trojans. I finally tracked it down to REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This
unseen function was running from a legitimate install of Real Play.
Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning, blocked access to
certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to say Real Player
was purged. The system ran fine after that.
At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in
a heartbeat if I find something better.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low
and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 10:17am

Move over Norton
McAfee take a back seat

Check out Panda Software

They are one of the best now

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "John Mansfield" <johnm@g...> wrote:

>
> I am curious why Norton has fallen from your favor.
>
> It is so widely used, can so many be wrong?
>
> What about McAfee?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> John Mansfield
>
> General Sheet Metal
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@R...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software
>
>
>
> I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
> Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
> something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running
> multiple virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated
> most packages didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda
> would get them all. I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've
> encountered a machine where it scanned clean for viri, spyware, and
> Trojans. I finally tracked it down to REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This
> unseen function was running from a legitimate install of Real Play.
> Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning, blocked access to
> certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to say Real Player
> was purged. The system ran fine after that.
> At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in
> a heartbeat if I find something better.
>
> Shirley Graver
> Systems Administrator
> Rubber Associates
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@j...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software
>
> Under things that shouldn't be column ...
>
> One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
> "strange".
>
> Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
> clean on
> a full sweep.
>
> Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.
>
> Clearly though, something is "strange".
>
> Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low
> and
> behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
> runs great.
>
> Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
> late?
>
> Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
> basis?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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>
>
>
>
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system · January 14, 2004, 10:45am

Panda was rated by far the best in a review I read a few months back. I
have been using McAfee here for over 2 years. McAfee Enterprise 7.0 is easy
to use, and seems fine. Earlier versions were EXTREMELY flaky. I'll be
watching Panda.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:15 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Hi Shirley,

I am curious why Norton has fallen from your favor.

It is so widely used, can so many be wrong?

What about McAfee?

Thanks,

John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running multiple
virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated most packages
didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda would get them all.
I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've encountered a machine where it
scanned clean for viri, spyware, and Trojans. I finally tracked it down to
REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This unseen function was running from a legitimate
install of Real Play. Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning,
blocked access to certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to
say Real Player was purged. The system ran fine after that.
At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in a
heartbeat if I find something better.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 10:49am

I don't like Norton because:
1. It has a bad attitude - I consider it a very obnoxious program, it
seems to take over any machine its installed on. Just try and install
something else once its installed
2. Its like a bad house guest - once installed just TRY and get rid of
it. What a pain, I've always wound up doing registry clean up to make
it finally leave.
3. It's the subject of gossip - Lots of bad reviews from lots of
unhappy users. Consistantly low scores on product reviews. Trend
always scores higher.
4. Doesn't do its job - Doesn't always find viri that it should.
5. It's a braggart - It screams that it's the most widely used. I
think a more correct statement is that it's the most widely marketed and
bundled. How many poor uninformed users are there that installed Norton
that came bundled with something else. Just because it's on a lot of
machines doesn't make up for lack of ability. How many of those touting
are really able to make an informed assessment of its capabilities.

And for the record, I don't care for ANY of Norton's offerings, I've
found better, cheaper applications for all of their stuff.

McAfee is ok, a bit wimpy but ok.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:15 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Hi Shirley,

I am curious why Norton has fallen from your favor.

It is so widely used, can so many be wrong?

What about McAfee?

Thanks,

John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running
multiple virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated
most packages didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda
would get them all. I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've
encountered a machine where it scanned clean for viri, spyware, and
Trojans. I finally tracked it down to REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This
unseen function was running from a legitimate install of Real Play.
Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning, blocked access to
certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to say Real Player
was purged. The system ran fine after that.
At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in
a heartbeat if I find something better.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low
and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 10:59am

I am still very happy with Trend Micro's products. In the last 5 years I
have been on it, I have never had an outbreak, or even an infection. I do
have quite a few notifications of interceptions, so I know it is working. I
thought I purchased a one or two year subsciption program, but it is still
running and updating itself at hourly intervals. Still kind of baffled
about that one, but I decided not to bring up the issue with Trend. I
recently had an issue where their "Pre Scan" for new installs errors out
when it encounters SP4 on WIN2K. That issue was resolved in minutes by
disabling Pre Scan.

Other than that, I love the product...

Paul

system · January 14, 2004, 11:03am

Thanks Shirley,

I will be looking into Panda.

Is it on the web as Panda.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I don't like Norton because:
1. It has a bad attitude - I consider it a very obnoxious program, it
seems to take over any machine its installed on. Just try and install
something else once its installed
2. Its like a bad house guest - once installed just TRY and get rid of
it. What a pain, I've always wound up doing registry clean up to make
it finally leave.
3. It's the subject of gossip - Lots of bad reviews from lots of
unhappy users. Consistantly low scores on product reviews. Trend
always scores higher.
4. Doesn't do its job - Doesn't always find viri that it should.
5. It's a braggart - It screams that it's the most widely used. I
think a more correct statement is that it's the most widely marketed and
bundled. How many poor uninformed users are there that installed Norton
that came bundled with something else. Just because it's on a lot of
machines doesn't make up for lack of ability. How many of those touting
are really able to make an informed assessment of its capabilities.

And for the record, I don't care for ANY of Norton's offerings, I've
found better, cheaper applications for all of their stuff.

McAfee is ok, a bit wimpy but ok.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:15 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Hi Shirley,

I am curious why Norton has fallen from your favor.

It is so widely used, can so many be wrong?

What about McAfee?

Thanks,

John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running
multiple virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated
most packages didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda
would get them all. I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've
encountered a machine where it scanned clean for viri, spyware, and
Trojans. I finally tracked it down to REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This
unseen function was running from a legitimate install of Real Play.
Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning, blocked access to
certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to say Real Player
was purged. The system ran fine after that.
At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in
a heartbeat if I find something better.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low
and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
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system · January 14, 2004, 11:04am

www.pandasoftware.com <http://www.pandasoftware.com/>

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:03 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Thanks Shirley,

I will be looking into Panda.

Is it on the web as Panda.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I don't like Norton because:
1. It has a bad attitude - I consider it a very obnoxious program, it
seems to take over any machine its installed on. Just try and install
something else once its installed
2. Its like a bad house guest - once installed just TRY and get rid of
it. What a pain, I've always wound up doing registry clean up to make
it finally leave.
3. It's the subject of gossip - Lots of bad reviews from lots of
unhappy users. Consistantly low scores on product reviews. Trend
always scores higher.
4. Doesn't do its job - Doesn't always find viri that it should.
5. It's a braggart - It screams that it's the most widely used. I
think a more correct statement is that it's the most widely marketed and
bundled. How many poor uninformed users are there that installed Norton
that came bundled with something else. Just because it's on a lot of
machines doesn't make up for lack of ability. How many of those touting
are really able to make an informed assessment of its capabilities.

And for the record, I don't care for ANY of Norton's offerings, I've
found better, cheaper applications for all of their stuff.

McAfee is ok, a bit wimpy but ok.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:15 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Hi Shirley,

I am curious why Norton has fallen from your favor.

It is so widely used, can so many be wrong?

What about McAfee?

Thanks,

John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running
multiple virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated
most packages didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda
would get them all. I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've
encountered a machine where it scanned clean for viri, spyware, and
Trojans. I finally tracked it down to REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This
unseen function was running from a legitimate install of Real Play.
Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning, blocked access to
certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to say Real Player
was purged. The system ran fine after that.
At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in
a heartbeat if I find something better.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low
and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 11:31am

Todd:
I use Grisoft's AVG throughout the plant (and at home) and have for the last few years. I've been extremely happy with it.
Just my .02.
Julie
Mercury Minnesota Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Anderson
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 11:34am

Wimpy? Wimpy? I'd gladly pay you tomorrow for an opinion today. Care to
elaborate, Shirley? As a McAfee user, it wouldn't hurt me to know the awful
truth. -Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I don't like Norton because:
1. It has a bad attitude - I consider it a very obnoxious program, it seems
to take over any machine its installed on. Just try and install something
else once its installed 2. Its like a bad house guest - once installed just
TRY and get rid of it. What a pain, I've always wound up doing registry
clean up to make it finally leave. 3. It's the subject of gossip - Lots of
bad reviews from lots of unhappy users. Consistantly low scores on product
reviews. Trend always scores higher. 4. Doesn't do its job - Doesn't
always find viri that it should. 5. It's a braggart - It screams that it's
the most widely used. I think a more correct statement is that it's the
most widely marketed and bundled. How many poor uninformed users are there
that installed Norton that came bundled with something else. Just because
it's on a lot of machines doesn't make up for lack of ability. How many of
those touting are really able to make an informed assessment of its
capabilities.

And for the record, I don't care for ANY of Norton's offerings, I've found
better, cheaper applications for all of their stuff.

McAfee is ok, a bit wimpy but ok.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mansfield [mailto:johnm@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:15 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Hi Shirley,

I am curious why Norton has fallen from your favor.

It is so widely used, can so many be wrong?

What about McAfee?

Thanks,

John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

I have never cared for Norton. The best I've run into so far is PANDA.
Updates automatically, is friendly on software installs, notifies you if
something wants out, easily configured firewall. When I was running multiple
virus programs, I encountered, that even when fully updated most packages
didn't get all the virus's all the time. Except, Panda would get them all.
I used Trend, Sophos, and Norton. Also, I've encountered a machine where it
scanned clean for viri, spyware, and Trojans. I finally tracked it down to
REAL PLAYER SCHEDULER. This unseen function was running from a legitimate
install of Real Play. Absolutely pegged the processor, blocked CD burning,
blocked access to certain internet sites, yadda yadda yadda. Needless to
say Real Player was purged. The system ran fine after that.
At the moment Panda is cool, but I'm fickle, I'll dump it in a
heartbeat if I find something better.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Anti-Virus Software

Under things that shouldn't be column ...

One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was acting
"strange".

Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs clean on
a full sweep.

Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.

Clearly though, something is "strange".

Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and low and
behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted. PC now
runs great.

Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus software of
late?

Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production basis?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

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system · January 14, 2004, 12:18pm

Todd,
We've been using the free version 6 of the AVG software for several
years on our production machines, and it's been great. Way back when,
the licensing was free to anyone/anywhere, but they have since
changed that to not being free for commercial use anymore. It's not
very configurable, but it also doesn't seem to affect Vantage or
anything else, it just sits in the background doing it's job.

John Elder
Penn State Tool & Die

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Todd Anderson <tanderson@j...> wrote:
> Under things that shouldn't be column ...
>
> One of our employees brought in a PC running Win-XP-Pro that was
acting
> "strange".
>
> Norton Antivirus 2003 is on the machine and 100 % up to date. Runs
clean on
> a full sweep.
>
> Machine also has Webroot Spysweeper ... it also run's clean.
>
> Clearly though, something is "strange".
>
> Downloaded a free copy of AVG anti-virus from www.grisoft.com and
low and
> behold - a number of viruses and Trojans are found and deleted.
PC now
> runs great.
>
> Has anyone noticed major failures with the Norton Anti-Virus
software of
> late?
>
> Is anyone using the GriSoft AVG anti-virus software on a production
basis?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson

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