[Off Topic] Quiet day survey

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I work from 5:30 am till 5 pm 5 days a week. One hour lunch.
Many Saturdays, plus occasional late nights, Sunday server visits, etc.

I received zero increase this year.

Last year was 2%

The prior, zero increase.

I'm thinkin' four days a week, every other, at the same pay would be
glorious!


RG


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Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?
3
!!!!SHOW ME THE MONEY, HONEY!!!

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 AM
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Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?




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Check Please..

I'll take time off when I'm dead..


Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?




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Greedy little wench aren't you?

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:42 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


!!!!SHOW ME THE MONEY, HONEY!!!

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?




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Jim, how many hours a week do you average?

Sounds like you'd rather be working ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Carnes [mailto:jcarnes@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Check Please..

I'll take time off when I'm dead..


Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
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to
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you?




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I did not use all of my 2.1 weeks vacation last year and 1 yr is not much
security.
I would take the 10% quick before it moved.

Jerry Boyle
Sipco Molding Technologies
Meadville, PA. 16335
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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?
8
Watch out there Todd or I'll WENCH your back.

Hee hee.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:53 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Greedy little wench aren't you?

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:42 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


!!!!SHOW ME THE MONEY, HONEY!!!

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?




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9
10% is a pretty nice bump. It would be hard to say no to that. I
have more Vacation time than I'm able to use right now so I wouldn't
need that, and only 1 year of security isn't that much, I guess it
would depend on the size of the severance and how stable I felt the
company was. Right now I really think things are starting to improve
here so I'm not worried about the next year. Give me the Green, Baby!

Brian

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Todd Anderson <tanderson@j...> wrote:
> Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:
>
> * Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off
every 2
> weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to
put it
> another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or
money?
>
> * Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment
contract
> guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination
terms in the
> event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
> not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if
the
> company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you
were to
> receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security
have to
> you?
10
I'll take the time off. In fact a nice 4 month sabbatical in the Caribbean
would be the perfect escape from the approaching MN. winter. I have not
heard of many people on their death bed wishing they would of worked more.

Dan Shallbetter
States Electric.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Boyle [mailto:jboyle@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


I did not use all of my 2.1 weeks vacation last year and 1 yr is not much
security.
I would take the 10% quick before it moved.

Jerry Boyle
Sipco Molding Technologies
Meadville, PA. 16335
p 814.724.2243 x53
f 814.724.2244
vantage 5.20.332

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?



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With three kids in college & grad school - if I had an extra day off I'd have to fill it with another job, probably at less pay, so I'd definitely take the raise.

Tuition not withstanding, a 10% increase would make a good addition to a "rainy day" fund with which to ride out job transitions. Plus with the economy seeming to rebound inter-job duration should be shorter - especially if you have a lot of confidence in your hirability.

Finally - employment "at will" may be risky sometimes but contracts cut both ways - typically restricting ability to accept a better employment situation.

On the other hand....a 10% raise is really only a 5-6% raise after fed, state taxes and Soc. Sec/Medicare. Unless you put the whole thing in a tax deferred savings plan (like 401k).

I would still take the dough in both cases.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?


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I'd just like to work for the company that would give me those choices!!

As nice as it would be to have more days off to spend with the family
and/or a 1 year job guarantee, most people would, I think, have to take
the raise just to try to break even with rising healthcare costs.

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


With three kids in college & grad school - if I had an extra day off I'd
have to fill it with another job, probably at less pay, so I'd
definitely take the raise.

Tuition not withstanding, a 10% increase would make a good addition to a
"rainy day" fund with which to ride out job transitions. Plus with the
economy seeming to rebound inter-job duration should be shorter -
especially if you have a lot of confidence in your hirability.

Finally - employment "at will" may be risky sometimes but contracts cut
both ways - typically restricting ability to accept a better employment
situation.

On the other hand....a 10% raise is really only a 5-6% raise after fed,
state taxes and Soc. Sec/Medicare. Unless you put the whole thing in a
tax deferred savings plan (like 401k).

I would still take the dough in both cases.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?


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Rising: healthcare, education, utilities, transportation, insurances, food,
clothing, shelter.... I have a hard time believing the cost-of-living is
4%.

Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


I'd just like to work for the company that would give me those choices!!

As nice as it would be to have more days off to spend with the family
and/or a 1 year job guarantee, most people would, I think, have to take
the raise just to try to break even with rising healthcare costs.

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


With three kids in college & grad school - if I had an extra day off I'd
have to fill it with another job, probably at less pay, so I'd
definitely take the raise.

Tuition not withstanding, a 10% increase would make a good addition to a
"rainy day" fund with which to ride out job transitions. Plus with the
economy seeming to rebound inter-job duration should be shorter -
especially if you have a lot of confidence in your hirability.

Finally - employment "at will" may be risky sometimes but contracts cut
both ways - typically restricting ability to accept a better employment
situation.

On the other hand....a 10% raise is really only a 5-6% raise after fed,
state taxes and Soc. Sec/Medicare. Unless you put the whole thing in a
tax deferred savings plan (like 401k).

I would still take the dough in both cases.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?


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With cutbacks I'm a one man band now. I can't take the weekends off as it is let alone a day through the week without calling in three or four times.

Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation
15
But Gary, our President believes those things are good for the
proletariate. Uh… citizens. We should believe everything he says
without questioning his authority or his Brown shirts, …uh…. in
Justice department.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Rising: healthcare, education, utilities, transportation, insurances,
food,
clothing, shelter.... I have a hard time believing the cost-of-living
is
4%.

Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


I'd just like to work for the company that would give me those choices!!

As nice as it would be to have more days off to spend with the family
and/or a 1 year job guarantee, most people would, I think, have to take
the raise just to try to break even with rising healthcare costs.

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


With three kids in college & grad school - if I had an extra day off I'd
have to fill it with another job, probably at less pay, so I'd
definitely take the raise.

Tuition not withstanding, a 10% increase would make a good addition to a
"rainy day" fund with which to ride out job transitions. Plus with the
economy seeming to rebound inter-job duration should be shorter -
especially if you have a lot of confidence in your hirability.

Finally - employment "at will" may be risky sometimes but contracts cut
both ways - typically restricting ability to accept a better employment
situation.

On the other hand....a 10% raise is really only a 5-6% raise after fed,
state taxes and Soc. Sec/Medicare. Unless you put the whole thing in a
tax deferred savings plan (like 401k).

I would still take the dough in both cases.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?


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Shirley:

Better be careful--I think homeland security has some rule about saying
br_wn shirts and Prez in the same sentence.
Lydia
IS Administrator
Canyon Engineering Products
661-294-0084 x115



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


But Gary, our President believes those things are good for the
proletariate. Uh… citizens. We should believe everything he says
without questioning his authority or his Brown shirts, …uh…. in
Justice department.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Rising: healthcare, education, utilities, transportation, insurances,
food,
clothing, shelter.... I have a hard time believing the cost-of-living
is
4%.

Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Havlik [mailto:judy.havlik@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


I'd just like to work for the company that would give me those choices!!

As nice as it would be to have more days off to spend with the family
and/or a 1 year job guarantee, most people would, I think, have to take
the raise just to try to break even with rising healthcare costs.

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:38 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


With three kids in college & grad school - if I had an extra day off I'd
have to fill it with another job, probably at less pay, so I'd
definitely take the raise.

Tuition not withstanding, a 10% increase would make a good addition to a
"rainy day" fund with which to ride out job transitions. Plus with the
economy seeming to rebound inter-job duration should be shorter -
especially if you have a lot of confidence in your hirability.

Finally - employment "at will" may be risky sometimes but contracts cut
both ways - typically restricting ability to accept a better employment
situation.

On the other hand....a 10% raise is really only a 5-6% raise after fed,
state taxes and Soc. Sec/Medicare. Unless you put the whole thing in a
tax deferred savings plan (like 401k).

I would still take the dough in both cases.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?


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17
Oh that’s riche, they can tap our phones, monitor our emails, search
our homes, track our books, our finances, confine us without warrant, or
due process now… legally.
Oopsey!!

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [mailto:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:19 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Shirley:

Better be careful--I think homeland security has some rule about saying
br_wn shirts and Prez in the same sentence.
Lydia
IS Administrator
Canyon Engineering Products
661-294-0084 x115



-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


But Gary, our President believes those things are good for the
proletariate. Uh… citizens. We should believe everything he says
without questioning his authority or his Brown shirts, …uh…. in
Justice department.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey

Rising: healthcare, education, utilities, transportation, insurances,
food,
clothing, shelter.... I have a hard time believing the cost-of-living
is
4%.

Gary


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


I'd just like to work for the company that would give me those choices!!

As nice as it would be to have more days off to spend with the family
and/or a 1 year job guarantee, most people would, I think, have to take
the raise just to try to break even with rising healthcare costs.

Sincerely,
Judy Havlik
Plitek, L.L.C.
69 Rawls Road
Des Plaines, IL 60018
Fax: 847-827-6733
PH: 847-827-6680 x223
www.plitek.com


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


With three kids in college & grad school - if I had an extra day off I'd
have to fill it with another job, probably at less pay, so I'd
definitely take the raise.

Tuition not withstanding, a 10% increase would make a good addition to a
"rainy day" fund with which to ride out job transitions. Plus with the
economy seeming to rebound inter-job duration should be shorter -
especially if you have a lot of confidence in your hirability.

Finally - employment "at will" may be risky sometimes but contracts cut
both ways - typically restricting ability to accept a better employment
situation.

On the other hand....a 10% raise is really only a 5-6% raise after fed,
state taxes and Soc. Sec/Medicare. Unless you put the whole thing in a
tax deferred savings plan (like 401k).

I would still take the dough in both cases.

-Todd C.

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Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put
it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase for a written employment contract
guarantying your job for 1 year and specifying the termination terms in
the
event that the company chose not to renew the contract? As in, you
would
not have to worry about your job being downsized for 1 year and if the
company decided not to renew you would have it in writing that you were
to
receive x # of weeks of severance. What value does job security have to
you?


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18
About 18 months ago I took a 20% cut for a 4 day week.
It was my request.
I think it is wonderful.
I still get a smaller annual increase.

Interesting the different views.


_________________________________________
Babette Welch
IT Director
Argonics Inc
1110 Wright
Marquette MI 49855
906.226.9747
19
I'll take the 10%, tyme ovf - how do you spell that and what is it again?

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:37 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Quiet day survey


Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

* Would you forgo a 10% pay increase in exchange for 1 day off every 2
weeks year round? Vacation and Holiday days stay the same. Or, to put it
another way, which is more valuable to you these days - time or money?

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I'll take the time off! I have asked for something similar around here, but no go. They tell me that they "can't afford to have me off". If that's the case then I need more money if I am so valuable.

I like to travel and my husband's work schedule is more conducive to this than my schedule. I would definitely forego the raise for time off.

I even suggested that during the summer months letting people earn a day off -- work 8 - nine hour days and earn a day off in the middle of the week. Still no go!

Guarantee.... I don't know?!


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I'll take the 10%, tyme ovf - how do you spell that and what is it again?

Patrick

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Seems like a slow day so out of curiosity:

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