Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems

I just implemented APEX security camera system into our system. They
allow web access with PTZ control. There are optional camera you can
get with your choice of 360 degree turning or fish or stand alone.
They have good pixalation and no delay.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ari Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> We have a system made by "Survellix" (I think that's the spelling),
> which is a hard-wired system including b&w and color cameras, with an
> IP-based interface that allows PTZ access to the PTZ-capable cameras.
> Everything is recorded onto disk (no tapes), and searching for specific
> times to view the playback is very easy.
>
> --Ari
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Todd Caughey
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:23 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems
>
>
>
> We have an odd ball setup of cameras someone else purchased from X10 and
> new stuff I've been putting in from SuperCircuits.com. The X10 cameras
> are junk. Maybe suitable for home but not industrial strength. Poor
> picture quality and the panning motors keep freezing up. Getting an RMA
> is hopeless.
>
> I bought an 8 channel DVR recorder from Super Circuits that I have been
> fairly happy with. It has hard drive capacity for 2 weeks on 8 channels
> and the ability to burn to DVD. It also allows reviewing recordings
> while continuing to record new feeds - much like a home DVR.
>
> At least three times it has been used to document "incidents"...one a
> hit and run in the parking lot and another when an employee was
> scattering corn chips around a manager's car to attract crows who
> perched on it and left little white presents all over it. So the couple
> grand for the recorder has been well worth it. It has a windows
> interface so I can remote in to our network and watch cameras from at
> home which has been useful for seeing if power is out (rest of system is
> on battery backups). Also, the front desk receptionist can see the
> visitor parking lot (not visible form office) on her PC and know when
> somebody is coming. One shortcoming is the manager interface and some of
> the actions (like finding a particular date/time to review) are not
> intuitive and the manual was a poor translation from another language.
> All things to look for in a recorder.
>
> -Todd C.
>
> ________________________________
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of Winter, Patrick
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> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems
>
> All,
>
> Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system they
> have experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,
> entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want to
> digitally store areas monitored. All comments welcome.
>
> Patrick Winter
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All,



Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system they
have experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,
entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want to
digitally store areas monitored. All comments welcome.



Patrick Winter





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I've implemented these types of systems in the past using IP cameras. The
last one I did was using D-Link DCS-5300 cameras. They can be configured to
record only when motion occurs and you can specify the areas of motion that
should be applied to the frame. They support audio recording. The only
negative that I had was the software that comes with the cameras, but you
are able to setup the transfer of images to FTP servers automatically. This
can be either internal or external to the company. You can HTTP to the
camera for a live feed. The motion sensors on these cameras can be set to
be extremely sensitive. I had to play with the one for a front door as the
wind blowing would move the door ever so slightly and the camera picked up
on it. I fine tuned it to the point where it would catch the squirrels
coming up to the door.



They also make a wireless version of the camera. You can view the data
sheet here <ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DCS-5300/DCS-5300_ds.pdf> .
ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DCS-5300/DCS-5300_ds.pdf



HTH,



Ted Kitch

Information Technology Manager

Astro Machine Corporation

www.astromachine.com



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Winter, Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems



All,

Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system they
have experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,
entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want to
digitally store areas monitored. All comments welcome.

Patrick Winter

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We have an odd ball setup of cameras someone else purchased from X10 and new stuff I've been putting in from SuperCircuits.com. The X10 cameras are junk. Maybe suitable for home but not industrial strength. Poor picture quality and the panning motors keep freezing up. Getting an RMA is hopeless.

I bought an 8 channel DVR recorder from Super Circuits that I have been fairly happy with. It has hard drive capacity for 2 weeks on 8 channels and the ability to burn to DVD. It also allows reviewing recordings while continuing to record new feeds - much like a home DVR.

At least three times it has been used to document "incidents"...one a hit and run in the parking lot and another when an employee was scattering corn chips around a manager's car to attract crows who perched on it and left little white presents all over it. So the couple grand for the recorder has been well worth it. It has a windows interface so I can remote in to our network and watch cameras from at home which has been useful for seeing if power is out (rest of system is on battery backups). Also, the front desk receptionist can see the visitor parking lot (not visible form office) on her PC and know when somebody is coming. One shortcoming is the manager interface and some of the actions (like finding a particular date/time to review) are not intuitive and the manual was a poor translation from another language. All things to look for in a recorder.

-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Winter, Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems


All,

Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system they
have experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,
entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want to
digitally store areas monitored. All comments welcome.

Patrick Winter

This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and
privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,
please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this
e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this
information by a person other than the intended recipient is
unauthorized and may be illegal.

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We have a system made by "Survellix" (I think that's the spelling),
which is a hard-wired system including b&w and color cameras, with an
IP-based interface that allows PTZ access to the PTZ-capable cameras.
Everything is recorded onto disk (no tapes), and searching for specific
times to view the playback is very easy.

--Ari
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems



We have an odd ball setup of cameras someone else purchased from X10 and
new stuff I've been putting in from SuperCircuits.com. The X10 cameras
are junk. Maybe suitable for home but not industrial strength. Poor
picture quality and the panning motors keep freezing up. Getting an RMA
is hopeless.

I bought an 8 channel DVR recorder from Super Circuits that I have been
fairly happy with. It has hard drive capacity for 2 weeks on 8 channels
and the ability to burn to DVD. It also allows reviewing recordings
while continuing to record new feeds - much like a home DVR.

At least three times it has been used to document "incidents"...one a
hit and run in the parking lot and another when an employee was
scattering corn chips around a manager's car to attract crows who
perched on it and left little white presents all over it. So the couple
grand for the recorder has been well worth it. It has a windows
interface so I can remote in to our network and watch cameras from at
home which has been useful for seeing if power is out (rest of system is
on battery backups). Also, the front desk receptionist can see the
visitor parking lot (not visible form office) on her PC and know when
somebody is coming. One shortcoming is the manager interface and some of
the actions (like finding a particular date/time to review) are not
intuitive and the manual was a poor translation from another language.
All things to look for in a recorder.

-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Winter, Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems

All,

Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system they
have experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,
entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want to
digitally store areas monitored. All comments welcome.

Patrick Winter

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privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,
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As easy as it is to do this stuff ourselves these days, there are liability issues when you do so (as the process can be abused). Consider getting an opinion from your company attorney. You may find it more attractive to outsource the surveillance to a reputable firm (for little cost).



Ted Kitch <tkitch@...> wrote:
I've implemented these types of systems in the past using IP cameras. The
last one I did was using D-Link DCS-5300 cameras. They can be configured to
record only when motion occurs and you can specify the areas of motion that
should be applied to the frame. They support audio recording. The only
negative that I had was the software that comes with the cameras, but you
are able to setup the transfer of images to FTP servers automatically. This
can be either internal or external to the company. You can HTTP to the
camera for a live feed. The motion sensors on these cameras can be set to
be extremely sensitive. I had to play with the one for a front door as the
wind blowing would move the door ever so slightly and the camera picked up
on it. I fine tuned it to the point where it would catch the squirrels
coming up to the door.

They also make a wireless version of the camera. You can view the data
sheet here <ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DCS-5300/DCS-5300_ds.pdf> .
ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DCS-5300/DCS-5300_ds.pdf

HTH,

Ted Kitch

Information Technology Manager

Astro Machine Corporation

www.astromachine.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Winter, Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:22 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems

All,

Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system they
have experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,
entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want to
digitally store areas monitored. All comments welcome.

Patrick Winter

This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and
privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,
please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this
e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this
information by a person other than the intended recipient is
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One of my non-vantage type jobs is video surveillance.
Be careful here because state laws require the installation of such services from licensed and certified individuals. This is likely not a concern when installing stuff for yourself, but should be considered regardless.

Airlink also has a product that is similar to the DLINK. These are expandable in that you do not have to predetermine your camera configuration.
For example, in non-ip based cameras, the capture cards generally have a max camera configuration, i.e UP TO 4, 8, or 16 cams per card.
Then, you have to consider the frames per second. This is the greatest influence on card cost.

You can look at supercircuits.com, essentia, and a host of others.
Most commonly, we install Geovision. These are very capable and scalable systems for smaller amounts of money. For more, you can step up to honeywell or Pelco.

The geovision systems all have remote monitoring over IP. They also have 3G monitoring so you can watch over your cell phone.
They will send emails and pages on alerts, have the ability to interact with POS systems and be controlled with PTZ cameras, locally and remotely.

They also interact with physical door and window sensors. So, if you have a single monitor with scrolling views, (monitor switches from camera to camera every few seconds, the system will focus on new movement, or the opening of doors. You can also map your facility (like a drawing) and the system will show you graphically where something is happening in the building.

You can record multiple audio channels too.
They have object recognition and scanning, so if you want to know when something disappeared from a certain location, you draw a box around the location (shelf, counter, etc) and the system shows you all events in the area...taking you right to the action you are looking for, so you do not have to sit for hours to find out when something happened..

Anyway, it would take hours to discuss it all.
There is more inforomation if interested.

Carey


To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: robertb_versa@...: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:55:33 -0800Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems




As easy as it is to do this stuff ourselves these days, there are liability issues when you do so (as the process can be abused). Consider getting an opinion from your company attorney. You may find it more attractive to outsource the surveillance to a reputable firm (for little cost).Ted Kitch <tkitch@...> wrote:I've implemented these types of systems in the past using IP cameras. Thelast one I did was using D-Link DCS-5300 cameras. They can be configured torecord only when motion occurs and you can specify the areas of motion thatshould be applied to the frame. They support audio recording. The onlynegative that I had was the software that comes with the cameras, but youare able to setup the transfer of images to FTP servers automatically. Thiscan be either internal or external to the company. You can HTTP to thecamera for a live feed. The motion sensors on these cameras can be set tobe extremely sensitive. I had to play with the one for a front door as thewind blowing would move the door ever so slightly and the camera picked upon it. I fine tuned it to the point where it would catch the squirrelscoming up to the door.They also make a wireless version of the camera. You can view the datasheet here <ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DCS-5300/DCS-5300_ds.pdf> .ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DCS-5300/DCS-5300_ds.pdfHTH,Ted KitchInformation Technology ManagerAstro Machine Corporationwww.astromachine.comFrom: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf OfWinter, PatrickSent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:22 AMTo: vantage@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systemsAll,Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system theyhave experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want todigitally store areas monitored. All comments welcome.Patrick WinterThis e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential andprivileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete thise-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of thisinformation by a person other than the intended recipient isunauthorized and may be illegal.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]---------------------------------Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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I will make a suggestion, be sure not to skimp on the cameras.
We had a situation once where an employee was stealing, we had tape, and the camera was so bad we couldn't even figure out who he was.
That was pathetic.
Get good color cameras




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From: Carey S <rotary1@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:12:33 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems














One of my non-vantage type jobs is video surveillance.

Be careful here because state laws require the installation of such services from licensed and certified individuals. This is likely not a concern when installing stuff for yourself, but should be considered regardless.



Airlink also has a product that is similar to the DLINK. These are expandable in that you do not have to predetermine your camera configuration.

For example, in non-ip based cameras, the capture cards generally have a max camera configuration, i.e UP TO 4, 8, or 16 cams per card.

Then, you have to consider the frames per second. This is the greatest influence on card cost.



You can look at supercircuits. com, essentia, and a host of others.

Most commonly, we install Geovision. These are very capable and scalable systems for smaller amounts of money. For more, you can step up to honeywell or Pelco.



The geovision systems all have remote monitoring over IP. They also have 3G monitoring so you can watch over your cell phone.

They will send emails and pages on alerts, have the ability to interact with POS systems and be controlled with PTZ cameras, locally and remotely.



They also interact with physical door and window sensors. So, if you have a single monitor with scrolling views, (monitor switches from camera to camera every few seconds, the system will focus on new movement, or the opening of doors. You can also map your facility (like a drawing) and the system will show you graphically where something is happening in the building.



You can record multiple audio channels too.

They have object recognition and scanning, so if you want to know when something disappeared from a certain location, you draw a box around the location (shelf, counter, etc) and the system shows you all events in the area...taking you right to the action you are looking for, so you do not have to sit for hours to find out when something happened..



Anyway, it would take hours to discuss it all.

There is more inforomation if interested.



Carey



To: vantage@yahoogroups .comFrom: robertb_versa@ yahoo.comDate: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:55:33 -0800Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systems



As easy as it is to do this stuff ourselves these days, there are liability issues when you do so (as the process can be abused). Consider getting an opinion from your company attorney. You may find it more attractive to outsource the surveillance to a reputable firm (for little cost).Ted Kitch <tkitch@astromachine .com> wrote:I've implemented these types of systems in the past using IP cameras. Thelast one I did was using D-Link DCS-5300 cameras. They can be configured torecord only when motion occurs and you can specify the areas of motion thatshould be applied to the frame. They support audio recording. The onlynegative that I had was the software that comes with the cameras, but youare able to setup the transfer of images to FTP servers automatically. Thiscan be either internal or external to the company. You can HTTP to thecamera for a live feed. The motion sensors on these cameras can be set tobe extremely sensitive. I had to play with the one for
a front door as thewind blowing would move the door ever so slightly and the camera picked upon it. I fine tuned it to the point where it would catch the squirrelscoming up to the door.They also make a wireless version of the camera. You can view the datasheet here <ftp://ftp10. dlink.com/ pdfs/products/ DCS-5300/ DCS-5300_ ds.pdf> .ftp://ftp10. dlink.com/ pdfs/products/ DCS-5300/ DCS-5300_ ds.pdfHTH, Ted KitchInformation Technology ManagerAstro Machine Corporationwww. astromachine. comFrom: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf OfWinter, PatrickSent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:22 AMTo: vantage@yahoogroups .comSubject: [Vantage] Off Topic - Video Surveillance systemsAll,Anyone install or recommend a particular video surveillance system theyhave experience with. We are looking to monitor the parking lot,entrances to the building, etc... General security, would want todigitally store areas monitored. All comments
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