I have to respond to this one...

You may not go through all the "trouble of creating the links", but by
the time you've clicked Edit | Find (Ctrl-F to the keyboard savy) and
typed in the name of the sheet (what was it called again?) - possibly
clicked find next several times...I would have clicked on the sheet,
found my information and closed it! Also for infrequent users of the
spreadsheet, they will be able to easily find their information. Might
even want to create a macro or link on the sheets to take you back to
the "home" page.

As demonstrated by the answers to this query, there are many solutions
each having pros and cons.

Is it Friday yet?

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ann Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:40 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

It is a drop down "Within" Sheet or Workbook.

I wouldn't go through all the trouble of doing the extra worksheet and
doing links

Just at the top left hand corner cell A1 put the Name of the sheet
within the sheet the name of the tab and when you search the entire
workbook, it will go to that cell, unless there is another cell with
that exact name of the tab in it???

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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:53 PM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

I use the ctrl-f to search for data within the sheet but, I do not see
the
option extended options. Where might that be?
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Behalf Of
Wayne Cox
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:40 PM
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At 01:32 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote:

>This is an off topic question. I use an Excel spread sheet with about
>25-50 sheet in a workbook and I was wondering if you can do a search

for

>sheets in a workbook? Thanks in advance.

What are you searching for? Specific data within any sheet? Just do
a
ctrl-F for find, and under the extended options, you can choose to
search
the entire workbook or just the current sheet.

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You could create a shortcut and copy the shortcut to the client PCs in the
logon.bat file. That way the file would retain the correct rights.

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Hello,

Does anyone know of a utility that might be contained in NT Server or
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download?

I need to get some files out to all PC's and would rather not have to walk
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Thanks

Dave Cole
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:58 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

As a workaround without a utility:

If your workstations are NT 4.0 or above, you can log onto your
workstation (assuming it's NT) with administrative privliges;
Use the start/run command and open each user's local hd:

//user1/c$ and copy the file to whatever directory you wanted to.

Ray Wilson
Beacon Medical Products

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:53 AM
To: Vantage eGroups (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Hello,

Does anyone know of a utility that might be contained in NT Server or
Workstation or in one of the resource kits to allow you to push a file out
to PC's in your domain with administrator priv's? Or, one you can download?

I need to get some files out to all PC's and would rather not have to walk
to each one (35) or Email and have the user try and put them in the correct
place.

Thanks

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

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Thanks everyone, that will work.

Dave

Dave

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 12:00 PM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

Oops. I meant \\user1\c$

Ray Wilson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Wilson [mailto:Rwilson@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:58 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

As a workaround without a utility:

If your workstations are NT 4.0 or above, you can log onto your
workstation (assuming it's NT) with administrative privliges;
Use the start/run command and open each user's local hd:

//user1/c$ and copy the file to whatever directory you wanted to.

Ray Wilson
Beacon Medical Products

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Hello,

Does anyone know of a utility that might be contained in NT Server or
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to PC's in your domain with administrator priv's? Or, one you can download?

I need to get some files out to all PC's and would rather not have to walk
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Thanks

Dave Cole
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Try removing the CD-ROM's and Floppy drives. Then if you really want to get
people mad, install roving profiles and setup the policy editor, and start
removing items like the RUN command and SETTING folder from the start
button. Then set it up so that they can not browse network drives, etc. Its
worked very well on our shop SPC stations.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:58 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Another off topic request.

In our ongoing battle of trying to keep end users from installing bootleg
software on their PC's or otherwise messing with the configurations ...

We currently use Crowd Control for our Win-95 and Win-98 machines. However,
Crowd Control will not work with Win-NT or Win-2000 machines.

We have reviewed Deep Freeze and run into the same limitation. ( Although
Deep Freeze is supposed to have a new version in 6 to 8 months that will
work. )

Baseball bats have also been to no avail ...

Does anyone know of a utility that will run on an Win-NT and/or Win-2000
machine that totally prevents end users from installing software or changing
the configuration ?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson
J. Rubin & Co.

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NT gives you more power as the administrator...policy editor works well. Of
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couple of our systems. Then I could re-connect it fairly easily.

Unfortunately, physical punishment (the old fashioned stocks come to mind)
now gets you into trouble with all kinds of government agencies and brings
lawyers into your building.

Lydia

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From: Podlin, Michael [mailto:michael.podlin@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:23 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

Try removing the CD-ROM's and Floppy drives. Then if you really want to get
people mad, install roving profiles and setup the policy editor, and start
removing items like the RUN command and SETTING folder from the start
button. Then set it up so that they can not browse network drives, etc. Its
worked very well on our shop SPC stations.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:58 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Another off topic request.

In our ongoing battle of trying to keep end users from installing bootleg
software on their PC's or otherwise messing with the configurations ...

We currently use Crowd Control for our Win-95 and Win-98 machines. However,
Crowd Control will not work with Win-NT or Win-2000 machines.

We have reviewed Deep Freeze and run into the same limitation. ( Although
Deep Freeze is supposed to have a new version in 6 to 8 months that will
work. )

Baseball bats have also been to no avail ...

Does anyone know of a utility that will run on an Win-NT and/or Win-2000
machine that totally prevents end users from installing software or changing
the configuration ?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson
J. Rubin & Co.

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================
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Delta Centrifugal Corp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:58 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Another off topic request.

In our ongoing battle of trying to keep end users from installing bootleg
software on their PC's or otherwise messing with the configurations ..

We currently use Crowd Control for our Win-95 and Win-98 machines.
However,
Crowd Control will not work with Win-NT or Win-2000 machines.

We have reviewed Deep Freeze and run into the same limitation. ( Although
Deep Freeze is supposed to have a new version in 6 to 8 months that will
work. )

Baseball bats have also been to no avail ...

Does anyone know of a utility that will run on an Win-NT and/or Win-2000
machine that totally prevents end users from installing software or
changing
the configuration ?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson
J. Rubin & Co.

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iF THE WORK STATIONS ARE NT, YOU CAN USE THE WORKSTATION SECURITY TO LIMIT
ANY KIND OF ACTIVITY, (i'VE DONE SUCH ON OUR 18+ NT MACHINES), No one does
anything on these machines without admin access. I also use a program
called REDHAND that does a nice job. It runs stelth so the user never knows
its there, and it can be remotely administered.

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:58 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Another off topic request.

In our ongoing battle of trying to keep end users from installing bootleg
software on their PC's or otherwise messing with the configurations ...

We currently use Crowd Control for our Win-95 and Win-98 machines.
However,
Crowd Control will not work with Win-NT or Win-2000 machines.

We have reviewed Deep Freeze and run into the same limitation. ( Although
Deep Freeze is supposed to have a new version in 6 to 8 months that will
work. )

Baseball bats have also been to no avail ...

Does anyone know of a utility that will run on an Win-NT and/or Win-2000
machine that totally prevents end users from installing software or
changing
the configuration ?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson
J. Rubin & Co.

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Why do you want to add a second IP subnet? Perhaps a better question is "Why
do you think your Ethernet bandwidth is a problem ?".

Using switches instead of hubs should negate any reason for using subnets
unless you have routers connecting 2 facilities. If you are going to use
switches, take a look at the Cisco 2924XL switch. It allows you to use
multiple wires for connecting the 2 switches. IE 2 wires would give you a
400 Mbps link, 5 wires would give you a 1 gig link. Works great, less
filling.

Todd Anderson

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Hope that helps,

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Has anyone been able to get Star Office 5.2 to run with Windows XP without
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Ted,

I just found the fix. You need to set the folder and all files in it to
full control for the user that is going to use it on that machine. That's
the only folder that needs to be changed. Also, when you install it, you
need to run the install using 'Run As' and run it as an Administrator.

Thanks for you effort,

Dave Cole

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Hope that helps,

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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:09 AM
To: 'Vantage@...'
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Has anyone been able to get Star Office 5.2 to run with Windows XP without
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Ron,

We did a reformat and clean install. It went just fine.

Also, what brand of server are you running? If you purchased it with NT
then it is most likely old enough there may be some bios/rom/firmware
updates you need to do either before, during or after the Windows 2K
install. With our Compaq server, there were several of what Compaq calls
ROM Packs or Support Packs.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: neonprod [mailto:rnewell@...]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded
did it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Newell
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From past experience with both Windows and programming, I don't even upgrade
clients from one OS to another. The reason, things tend to slow down
significantly and problems tend to occur more often than if you were to
install a fresh copy over a low level formatted drive.

I like things clean on a system; reason: you know things will work.

Otherwise, you could someday spend hours trying to figure out why something
doesn't work or why you are receiving the infamous "Blue Screen of Death".

In a server's case, DEFINITELY would install a fresh copy and not even
attempt an upgrade.

I only perform upgrades if I am forced into it depending on the situation,
cause I like knowing exactly what's been and what's currently on my system,
I like control.

Just offering another personal opinion,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

-----Original Message-----
From: neonprod [mailto:rnewell@...]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded
did it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Newell
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Yup. I agree with the flush and fill idea. Seems to work the best and can
eliminate any problems you may have had with the old install.

--
Gary Wassing
MIS
SteelCraft Industries
519-271-4750

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:31 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
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I tried to upgrade twice from Windows NT to Windows 2000 on my PDC. Both
times it went really bad. I finally just formatted and started over. IT
was a pain but I knew I could get everything running that way. I now have
enough experience with Active Directory that I don't think it would be a
problem to upgrade.
Thanks
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded
did it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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Since he's trying to upgrade a PDC won't this require adding all the users
and security settings manually ?

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Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:24 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
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Yup. I agree with the flush and fill idea. Seems to work the best and can
eliminate any problems you may have had with the old install.

--
Gary Wassing
MIS
SteelCraft Industries
519-271-4750

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:31 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
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I tried to upgrade twice from Windows NT to Windows 2000 on my PDC. Both
times it went really bad. I finally just formatted and started over. IT
was a pain but I knew I could get everything running that way. I now have
enough experience with Active Directory that I don't think it would be a
problem to upgrade.
Thanks
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: neonprod [mailto:rnewell@...]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded
did it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Newell
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I have approx. 25 PCs running Win2K on a NT domain.

I always disconnect all map drives prior to upgrading to Win2K. Maybe
that's the problem?

R Gors
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hemmerlein [mailto:hemmerls@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

A windows 2000 PC can not join a NT domain. It is my understanding, that
if
you want to do a clean install you will have to create a new domain and
rebuild all of your user accounts and groups. If you do not want to do
that
you have to upgrade the PDC first, which will convert your PDC to active
directory. Also the first active directory server is special you just can
not go back and format it latter after you add another server as an active
directory machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonprod [mailto:rnewell@...]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded
did it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Newell
Pattison Sign Group.

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I have been looking at Scott's reply for a full day trying to find a
polite way to respond. I am struggling, but I will try.

Any one who has read his response please ignore it. It is inaccurate on
all accounts. Everything that he says connot be done, can.

Windows 2000 (w2k) can join a NT domain. W2k server can be a part of a
NT domain. W2k can be installed without AD (Server and wkstn). You can
remove your fist W2k server from AD (it may not be easy - transfer FSMO
roles). Etc. etc.

Enough said. Now to answer Ron's question.

Upgrading and doing a clean install depends on your environment and what
you want to accomplish. Are you moving to AD? How many users? How
familiar are you with W2k & AD?

If you are just wanting to replace your PDC with a w2k server(as a PDC)
my advice is don't. If you are moving to w2k and AD then I strongly
suggest a clean install on a new (test) server, get to know w2k and AD.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hemmerlein [mailto:hemmerls@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

A windows 2000 PC can not join a NT domain. It is my understanding,
that if you want to do a clean install you will have to create a new
domain and rebuild all of your user accounts and groups. If you do not
want to do that you have to upgrade the PDC first, which will convert
your PDC to active directory. Also the first active directory server is
special you just can not go back and format it latter after you add
another server as an active directory machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonprod [mailto:rnewell@...]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded did
it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Newell
Pattison Sign Group.

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I think the easiest way to do a "clean" move to Active Directory (AD)
without losing your users and permissions is to grab a vacant workstation,
rebuild it as an NT 4.0 server, and promote it to the PDC of the network.
Then, upgrade that machine to AD. The rest of your servers will become part
of the AD. Then you can do "clean" installs without losing anything. After
putting W2K server on your old PDC, have it become part of the AD. Then
start transferring control from the temporary server to the new one (Master
Catalog, etc...). The temporary machine doesn't need to be much (even for
W2K server). We did this exact process successfully and used a PII 400 with
128 MB of RAM.

Chris

Christopher Gitzlaff
Manager - Information Systems & Technology
Major Industries, Inc.
Phone: 715-842-4616
Fax: 715-848-3336

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Mediger [mailto:JimM@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:05 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

I have been looking at Scott's reply for a full day trying to find a
polite way to respond. I am struggling, but I will try.

Any one who has read his response please ignore it. It is inaccurate on
all accounts. Everything that he says connot be done, can.

Windows 2000 (w2k) can join a NT domain. W2k server can be a part of a
NT domain. W2k can be installed without AD (Server and wkstn). You can
remove your fist W2k server from AD (it may not be easy - transfer FSMO
roles). Etc. etc.

Enough said. Now to answer Ron's question.

Upgrading and doing a clean install depends on your environment and what
you want to accomplish. Are you moving to AD? How many users? How
familiar are you with W2k & AD?

If you are just wanting to replace your PDC with a w2k server(as a PDC)
my advice is don't. If you are moving to w2k and AD then I strongly
suggest a clean install on a new (test) server, get to know w2k and AD.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hemmerlein [mailto:hemmerls@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

A windows 2000 PC can not join a NT domain. It is my understanding,
that if you want to do a clean install you will have to create a new
domain and rebuild all of your user accounts and groups. If you do not
want to do that you have to upgrade the PDC first, which will convert
your PDC to active directory. Also the first active directory server is
special you just can not go back and format it latter after you add
another server as an active directory machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: neonprod [mailto:rnewell@...]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded did
it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Newell
Pattison Sign Group.

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First I want to apologies for not being clear in my first post. When I said
that
a windows 2000 server can not join a NT domain I meant that it can not join
as a Active Directory Machine and simply was not clear in what I said.

The point I was trying to make, and if I an wrong I would LOVE to know how
to do this, was simply that you have to upgrade the PDC to Active Directory
to keep your accounts and groups intact and not have to create another
domain. You can not simply install W2k on a clean PC add Active Directory
and have it suck in the existing domain info.

Also I did not say you could not remove the first Active directory server
from an domain. I just said you can not SIMPLY FORMAT and then reinstall
W2k
Server on that machine, it does have special roles in the directory and,
as Jim noted, those roles need to me moved to another server before you
remove it from service.

Again I wish to apologies for my confusing presentation of what I was trying
to say. I wanted Ron to know it was a little more complicated then just
formating
and installing W2k. I hope that as a result of my last post all my future
posts will
not be summarily ignored. Please read them, then ignore them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Mediger [mailto:JimM@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:05 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

I have been looking at Scott's reply for a full day trying to find a
polite way to respond. I am struggling, but I will try.

Any one who has read his response please ignore it. It is inaccurate on
all accounts. Everything that he says connot be done, can.

Windows 2000 (w2k) can join a NT domain. W2k server can be a part of a
NT domain. W2k can be installed without AD (Server and wkstn). You can
remove your fist W2k server from AD (it may not be easy - transfer FSMO
roles). Etc. etc.

Enough said. Now to answer Ron's question.

Upgrading and doing a clean install depends on your environment and what
you want to accomplish. Are you moving to AD? How many users? How
familiar are you with W2k & AD?

If you are just wanting to replace your PDC with a w2k server(as a PDC)
my advice is don't. If you are moving to w2k and AD then I strongly
suggest a clean install on a new (test) server, get to know w2k and AD.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hemmerlein [mailto:hemmerls@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:36 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

A windows 2000 PC can not join a NT domain. It is my understanding,
that if you want to do a clean install you will have to create a new
domain and rebuild all of your user accounts and groups. If you do not
want to do that you have to upgrade the PDC first, which will convert
your PDC to active directory. Also the first active directory server is
special you just can not go back and format it latter after you add
another server as an active directory machine.

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Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded did
it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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Thanks for everyone's input. I think I will look into the clean install
with this one.

Thanks again..

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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hemmerlein [mailto:hemmerls@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:45
To: rnewell@...
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

First I want to apologies for not being clear in my first post. When I
said
that
a windows 2000 server can not join a NT domain I meant that it can not
join
as a Active Directory Machine and simply was not clear in what I said.

The point I was trying to make, and if I an wrong I would LOVE to know
how
to do this, was simply that you have to upgrade the PDC to Active
Directory
to keep your accounts and groups intact and not have to create another
domain. You can not simply install W2k on a clean PC add Active
Directory
and have it suck in the existing domain info.

Also I did not say you could not remove the first Active directory
server
from an domain. I just said you can not SIMPLY FORMAT and then
reinstall
W2k
Server on that machine, it does have special roles in the directory and,
as Jim noted, those roles need to me moved to another server before you
remove it from service.

Again I wish to apologies for my confusing presentation of what I was
trying
to say. I wanted Ron to know it was a little more complicated then just
formating
and installing W2k. I hope that as a result of my last post all my
future
posts will
not be summarily ignored. Please read them, then ignore them.

-----Original Message-----
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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
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I have been looking at Scott's reply for a full day trying to find a
polite way to respond. I am struggling, but I will try.

Any one who has read his response please ignore it. It is inaccurate on
all accounts. Everything that he says connot be done, can.

Windows 2000 (w2k) can join a NT domain. W2k server can be a part of a
NT domain. W2k can be installed without AD (Server and wkstn). You can
remove your fist W2k server from AD (it may not be easy - transfer FSMO
roles). Etc. etc.

Enough said. Now to answer Ron's question.

Upgrading and doing a clean install depends on your environment and what
you want to accomplish. Are you moving to AD? How many users? How
familiar are you with W2k & AD?

If you are just wanting to replace your PDC with a w2k server(as a PDC)
my advice is don't. If you are moving to w2k and AD then I strongly
suggest a clean install on a new (test) server, get to know w2k and AD.

Jim

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A windows 2000 PC can not join a NT domain. It is my understanding,
that if you want to do a clean install you will have to create a new
domain and rebuild all of your user accounts and groups. If you do not
want to do that you have to upgrade the PDC first, which will convert
your PDC to active directory. Also the first active directory server is
special you just can not go back and format it latter after you add
another server as an active directory machine.

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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

Hi all,

I am looking at upgrading my Windows NT4 Primary Domain Controller to
windows 2000. Has anyone used the upgrade option with windows 2000 or
has everyone re-formatted and done a clean install? If you upgraded did
it go smooth? Anything I should watch out for?

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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We use Genifax from Omtool ( www.omtool.com <http://www.omtool.com> ) and
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-----Original Message-----
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Good Morning Everyone!

My company is FINALLY upgradeing our servers, but with this upgrade
comes some software problems. We are currenly running a NT server
and a Novell server and we are going to 2 WIN 2000 servers. The
software problem is with our Faxserve.... The version we currently
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WIN 2000 or come up with something else that is just as easy to
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Check out www.faxback.com We use their NetSatisFAXtion product. You can
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and the functionality is awesome. We purchased a BrookTrout fax card for
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60 installed users.

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Good Morning Everyone!

My company is FINALLY upgradeing our servers, but with this upgrade
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I haven't seen where you can search for a sheet, but if you're just
looking for an easy way to open the sheet an option would be to:
1) insert another worksheet (no really)
2) type in text to identify the sheet
3) create a hyperlink for the text to the worksheet it represents
4) setup the "link" sheet so it is always the first sheet displayed

Butch

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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:14 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

This is an off topic question. I use an Excel spread sheet with about
25-50
sheet in a workbook and I was wondering if you can do a search for
sheets in
a workbook? Thanks in advance.

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I use the ctrl-f to search for data within the sheet but, I do not see the
option extended options. Where might that be?
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne Cox
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

At 01:32 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote:

>This is an off topic question. I use an Excel spread sheet with about
>25-50 sheet in a workbook and I was wondering if you can do a search for
>sheets in a workbook? Thanks in advance.

Paul,

CTRL-F will just search for information/cell on the worksheets in the entire
workbook - it will not search for a specific name of worksheet. Maybe the
first line of every worksheet enter your worksheet name - then you would be
able to use CTRL-F.

Please someone correct me if I am wrong.

Have a Nice Day,

Dina Hieber
Vamco International, Inc.
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Paul H. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:53 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

I use the ctrl-f to search for data within the sheet but, I do not see the
option extended options. Where might that be?
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne Cox
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

At 01:32 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote:

>This is an off topic question. I use an Excel spread sheet with about
>25-50 sheet in a workbook and I was wondering if you can do a search for
>sheets in a workbook? Thanks in advance.

Paul,

Also, if you were looking to search for specific information on a worksheet
When you do Ctrl-F - Hit Options Then Under Within Change that from Sheet
to Workbook. -- I am using Excel 2003.

Have a Nice Day,

Dina Hieber
Vamco International, Inc.
Phone (412) 963-7100
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Paul H. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:53 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

I use the ctrl-f to search for data within the sheet but, I do not see the
option extended options. Where might that be?
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne Cox
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

At 01:32 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote:

>This is an off topic question. I use an Excel spread sheet with about
>25-50 sheet in a workbook and I was wondering if you can do a search for
>sheets in a workbook? Thanks in advance.

It is a drop down "Within" Sheet or Workbook.

I wouldn't go through all the trouble of doing the extra worksheet and
doing links

Just at the top left hand corner cell A1 put the Name of the sheet
within the sheet the name of the tab and when you search the entire
workbook, it will go to that cell, unless there is another cell with
that exact name of the tab in it???

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Of Paul H. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:53 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

I use the ctrl-f to search for data within the sheet but, I do not see
the
option extended options. Where might that be?
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
Wayne Cox
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic

At 01:32 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote:

>This is an off topic question. I use an Excel spread sheet with about
>25-50 sheet in a workbook and I was wondering if you can do a search

for

>sheets in a workbook? Thanks in advance.

What are you searching for? Specific data within any sheet? Just do
a
ctrl-F for find, and under the extended options, you can choose to
search
the entire workbook or just the current sheet.

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three, Inc. -- Information Technology Consulting
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That too, but if it has 25 sheets, it still is a matter of scrolling
thru to find it.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Linda Lowney
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic

Hello Paul,

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but if you right click
in the bottom left corner of the spreadsheet where the arrows are, you
can see a list of all the worksheets and can select one from the list.

Regards,
Linda Lowney
Decoustics Limited

Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:13:38 -0400
From: "Paul H. Smith" <psmith@...>
Subject: Off Topic

This is an off topic question. I use an Excel spread sheet with about
25-50
sheet in a workbook and I was wondering if you can do a search for
sheets in
a workbook? Thanks in advance.

Paul H. Smith
Inventory Manager
Espey MFG.
233 Ballston Ave
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
518-245-4358

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