[OT] 2003 Domain Controller

Oops: "You potentially use the machine" should have said, "You could
potentially use the machine"

-A

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ari Footlik
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: [OT] 2003 Domain Controller



Well - let's put it this way:

Regardless of the number of users, your AD box is likely also going to
be acting as a DNS server and DHCP server. Those aren't heavy services,
but you want them to work well.

You potentially use the machine as a syslog server - personally, I think
syslogging is an excellent use of an otherwise underutilized server.

You could also implement some low-usage file-sharing on the machine
without worrying too much about it, but I prefer to let app-servers do
apps and file-servers do files (so that should a problem with an app
come up, it doesn't take out a file-share when the app-server is
rebooted to correct a problem).

In short - I don't think your prospective machine would be overkill for
the AD DC task. Sounds like a good machine and leaves you room for
growth.

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] 2003 Domain Controller

About 50 Users, we plan on keeping Groupwise for Mail on a different
server. It may run a couple apps where speed is not critical.
Nothing complicated with AD or GP.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> It really depends on a few factors. How many users? How deep do
you
> plan to go with your Active Directory structure? How many
> group-policies do you think you might need to have? Are you going
to be
> running Exchange?
>
> All of these factors can play into the selection. My primary AD
machine
> is a beefy 2850 (which is also the Exchange server, but it was
like that
> when I got here and I definitely advise people to NOT install
Exchange
> on the DC). But, my secondary AD machine is a 7-year-old
> cobbled-together box that was doing nothing anyway, so I
implemented it
> as a backup DC and DNS machine.
>
> --Ari
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Michael McWilliams
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] 2003 Domain Controller
>
>
>
> We are migrating from Novell to Windows 2003 Servers. Just
wondering
> what type of server requirments people recommend for a Domain
> Controller. Our old Bordermanager is a Poweredge 2600 Dual
Processor
> Xeon with 2gb of Ram. Am I just wasting a server if I make this a
DC?
> Should I just run a low end server?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We are migrating from Novell to Windows 2003 Servers. Just wondering
what type of server requirments people recommend for a Domain
Controller. Our old Bordermanager is a Poweredge 2600 Dual Processor
Xeon with 2gb of Ram. Am I just wasting a server if I make this a DC?
Should I just run a low end server?
It really depends on a few factors. How many users? How deep do you
plan to go with your Active Directory structure? How many
group-policies do you think you might need to have? Are you going to be
running Exchange?

All of these factors can play into the selection. My primary AD machine
is a beefy 2850 (which is also the Exchange server, but it was like that
when I got here and I definitely advise people to NOT install Exchange
on the DC). But, my secondary AD machine is a 7-year-old
cobbled-together box that was doing nothing anyway, so I implemented it
as a backup DC and DNS machine.

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:39 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] 2003 Domain Controller



We are migrating from Novell to Windows 2003 Servers. Just wondering
what type of server requirments people recommend for a Domain
Controller. Our old Bordermanager is a Poweredge 2600 Dual Processor
Xeon with 2gb of Ram. Am I just wasting a server if I make this a DC?
Should I just run a low end server?






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Depends how many people you have in your domain. I would actually run
two mid range servers for a primary and backup if the group is at least
50+ users. I think the one you have would be a good start. You can
also run other services along with the DC.







From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] 2003 Domain Controller



We are migrating from Novell to Windows 2003 Servers. Just wondering
what type of server requirments people recommend for a Domain
Controller. Our old Bordermanager is a Poweredge 2600 Dual Processor
Xeon with 2gb of Ram. Am I just wasting a server if I make this a DC?
Should I just run a low end server?





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
About 50 Users, we plan on keeping Groupwise for Mail on a different
server. It may run a couple apps where speed is not critical.
Nothing complicated with AD or GP.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ari Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> It really depends on a few factors. How many users? How deep do
you
> plan to go with your Active Directory structure? How many
> group-policies do you think you might need to have? Are you going
to be
> running Exchange?
>
> All of these factors can play into the selection. My primary AD
machine
> is a beefy 2850 (which is also the Exchange server, but it was
like that
> when I got here and I definitely advise people to NOT install
Exchange
> on the DC). But, my secondary AD machine is a 7-year-old
> cobbled-together box that was doing nothing anyway, so I
implemented it
> as a backup DC and DNS machine.
>
> --Ari
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael McWilliams
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] 2003 Domain Controller
>
>
>
> We are migrating from Novell to Windows 2003 Servers. Just
wondering
> what type of server requirments people recommend for a Domain
> Controller. Our old Bordermanager is a Poweredge 2600 Dual
Processor
> Xeon with 2gb of Ram. Am I just wasting a server if I make this a
DC?
> Should I just run a low end server?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Well - let's put it this way:

Regardless of the number of users, your AD box is likely also going to
be acting as a DNS server and DHCP server. Those aren't heavy services,
but you want them to work well.

You potentially use the machine as a syslog server - personally, I think
syslogging is an excellent use of an otherwise underutilized server.

You could also implement some low-usage file-sharing on the machine
without worrying too much about it, but I prefer to let app-servers do
apps and file-servers do files (so that should a problem with an app
come up, it doesn't take out a file-share when the app-server is
rebooted to correct a problem).

In short - I don't think your prospective machine would be overkill for
the AD DC task. Sounds like a good machine and leaves you room for
growth.

--Ari

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael McWilliams
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:47 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] 2003 Domain Controller



About 50 Users, we plan on keeping Groupwise for Mail on a different
server. It may run a couple apps where speed is not critical.
Nothing complicated with AD or GP.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ari
Footlik" <ari@...> wrote:
>
> It really depends on a few factors. How many users? How deep do
you
> plan to go with your Active Directory structure? How many
> group-policies do you think you might need to have? Are you going
to be
> running Exchange?
>
> All of these factors can play into the selection. My primary AD
machine
> is a beefy 2850 (which is also the Exchange server, but it was
like that
> when I got here and I definitely advise people to NOT install
Exchange
> on the DC). But, my secondary AD machine is a 7-year-old
> cobbled-together box that was doing nothing anyway, so I
implemented it
> as a backup DC and DNS machine.
>
> --Ari
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Michael McWilliams
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] 2003 Domain Controller
>
>
>
> We are migrating from Novell to Windows 2003 Servers. Just
wondering
> what type of server requirments people recommend for a Domain
> Controller. Our old Bordermanager is a Poweredge 2600 Dual
Processor
> Xeon with 2gb of Ram. Am I just wasting a server if I make this a
DC?
> Should I just run a low end server?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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