OT - Active Directory Rollout

system · March 27, 2003, 3:57pm

Sorry for the confusion, no 6.00 is not yet available. However, neither is
Windows 2003 Server. Both are beta programs and kept off our main
production network. However, both beta's seem to run very stable.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Most likely a beta test?

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Didn't know it shipped yet?

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
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Vantage 6.00.400 ??? It's not available to the rest of us is it?

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Vantage runs perfect on Windows Server 2003 <--- what they're calling it.

No problems here (Vantage 6.00.400 running a 1.5 GB database to a Windows XP
Pro Client)

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system · March 26, 2003, 3:17pm

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward.
My users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders.
Now they will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be
upset and struggle to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

system · March 26, 2003, 3:52pm

Yes, when you create the share use this format

Share name: jdoe$

If the user directories are in for example d:\USER\jdoe you wouldn't create
a share on the "USER" directory, just the jdoe director. Then in your login
script, map to jdoe$ for that user. The dollar sign makes it a system
directory and not visible in the browser. Because the user has access to
the jdoe$ directory and is mapped to it they will notice no change. Set
security on the jdoe$ directory so that only that user and administrator has
access.
If you need any help feel free to contact me off list.
Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation
jleonard@...

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Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward.
My users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders.
Now they will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be
upset and struggle to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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system · March 26, 2003, 4:04pm

In your login script you can also use the environmental variable %username%
to automate mapping of those user drives.

e.g.
net use h: \\servername\%username%$

Dave

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Please respond to
vantage

Yes, when you create the share use this format

Share name: jdoe$

system · March 26, 2003, 4:24pm

You don't need to do this via scripts. You can set the Home directory
in the Active Directory property sheet for each user

Dan Tisone
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(949) 440-3685 x148
Cel (714) 227-4173

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

In your login script you can also use the environmental variable
%username%
to automate mapping of those user drives.

e.g.
net use h: \\servername\%username%$

Dave

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Please respond to

vantage

Yes, when you create the share use this format

Share name: jdoe$

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system · March 27, 2003, 8:48am

Your definitely not in this alone. We are also moving print sharing, file
sharing from Netware 4.11 to NT and then to AD. I have been looking for the
best solution to the same question. I still run over 20 pcs on Windows 98 so
I'm waiting on AD until they are upgraded.

The solution may be as simple as "Shares with your permission granted on NT
appear in My Network Places" automatically on XP or as messy as trying to
understand a "Distributed File System" under Active Directory.

I'm testing solutions to this now on a test network.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: lheisey3 [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward.
My users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders.
Now they will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be
upset and struggle to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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system · March 27, 2003, 8:54am

There is no reason you can't map drives with Win2k Server just like you did
with Novell. I have 98 and NT clients running just fine connecting to a
Windows 2000 AD infrastructure. Granted there are features of AD you can't
take advantage of until all your clients are Windows 2000 or better. In
the meantime you can still utilize AD's features to better manage the 2000
and XP boxes you do have.

Dave

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03/27/2003 07:48 Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout
AM
Please respond to
vantage

Your definitely not in this alone. We are also moving print sharing, file
sharing from Netware 4.11 to NT and then to AD. I have been looking for the
best solution to the same question. I still run over 20 pcs on Windows 98
so
I'm waiting on AD until they are upgraded.

The solution may be as simple as "Shares with your permission granted on NT
appear in My Network Places" automatically on XP or as messy as trying to
understand a "Distributed File System" under Active Directory.

I'm testing solutions to this now on a test network.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: lheisey3 [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward.
My users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders.
Now they will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be
upset and struggle to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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system · March 27, 2003, 9:06am

OK, Here's the deal.

In Netware we mapped N: drive to a directory called HomeAndGroups.

Under HomeAndGroups we have a sub directory for each user (User1, User2,
User3, etc...) about 70 total.
Also directories for each department (Shipping, Accounting, Engineering,
Purchasing, etc.... )
Also directories for entities like (News Group, Corporate Group, Everyone
Group, QS9000 Group, etc...)

When you logged in and Mapped N: to HomeAndGroups you would just get what
you had permission to:
Example for Purchasing Manager:

Everyone Group
Purchasing Group
Corporate Group
News Group
Shipping Group
User30 (Own personal folder)

You don't have to look at all 90 folders.

In you solution I need to now map a drive letter for each item instead of
just one.
The basic difference is NT you view all.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Poskevich [mailto:dposkevich@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

There is no reason you can't map drives with Win2k Server just like you did
with Novell. I have 98 and NT clients running just fine connecting to a
Windows 2000 AD infrastructure. Granted there are features of AD you can't
take advantage of until all your clients are Windows 2000 or better. In the
meantime you can still utilize AD's features to better manage the 2000 and
XP boxes you do have.

Dave

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cc:

03/27/2003 07:48 Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT -
Active Directory Rollout
AM

Please respond to

vantage

Your definitely not in this alone. We are also moving print sharing, file
sharing from Netware 4.11 to NT and then to AD. I have been looking for the
best solution to the same question. I still run over 20 pcs on Windows 98 so
I'm waiting on AD until they are upgraded.

The solution may be as simple as "Shares with your permission granted on NT
appear in My Network Places" automatically on XP or as messy as trying to
understand a "Distributed File System" under Active Directory.

I'm testing solutions to this now on a test network.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: lheisey3 [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward. My
users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders. Now they
will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be upset and struggle
to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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system · March 27, 2003, 9:09am

I've heard that there are wonderful things that AD can do. But so far I
haven't heard about specifics of its advantages, what I have heard is of
interest to people of higher technical ability. What practicality is
there for a user who sees the pencil as the pinnacle of technology? Can
AD be learned "on the fly", if formal training is not an option? So far
my investigations answer this question as "NO". And once turned on you
cant practically turn it off again if you make a mistake.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Poskevich [mailto:dposkevich@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

There is no reason you can't map drives with Win2k Server just like you
did
with Novell. I have 98 and NT clients running just fine connecting to a
Windows 2000 AD infrastructure. Granted there are features of AD you
can't
take advantage of until all your clients are Windows 2000 or better. In
the meantime you can still utilize AD's features to better manage the
2000
and XP boxes you do have.

Dave

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vantage@yahoogroups.com

cc:

03/27/2003 07:48 Subject: RE: [Vantage]
OT - Active Directory Rollout
AM

Please respond to

vantage

Your definitely not in this alone. We are also moving print sharing,
file
sharing from Netware 4.11 to NT and then to AD. I have been looking for
the
best solution to the same question. I still run over 20 pcs on Windows
98
so
I'm waiting on AD until they are upgraded.

The solution may be as simple as "Shares with your permission granted on
NT
appear in My Network Places" automatically on XP or as messy as trying
to
understand a "Distributed File System" under Active Directory.

I'm testing solutions to this now on a test network.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: lheisey3 [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward.
My users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders.
Now they will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be
upset and struggle to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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system · March 27, 2003, 12:27pm

True - the more Technically advanced you are the easier it will be. AD can be self learned if you take the right approach.

1. Read, find all the info you can on AD.
2. Join a MS Admin Group.
3. Create a test Server/Domain. One you can tear down and start over.
4. Wait for Windows 2003. New version of AD, which is not 100% compatible with AD 1.0 (supposed to be released in April).

For the original post:

AD can accomplish what you wish. Novell has a right called "File Scan" that is "off" by default. MS has the Right "List Folder Contents" which is "on" by default.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

I've heard that there are wonderful things that AD can do. But so far I
haven't heard about specifics of its advantages, what I have heard is of
interest to people of higher technical ability. What practicality is
there for a user who sees the pencil as the pinnacle of technology? Can
AD be learned "on the fly", if formal training is not an option? So far
my investigations answer this question as "NO". And once turned on you
cant practically turn it off again if you make a mistake.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Poskevich [mailto:dposkevich@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

There is no reason you can't map drives with Win2k Server just like you
did
with Novell. I have 98 and NT clients running just fine connecting to a
Windows 2000 AD infrastructure. Granted there are features of AD you
can't
take advantage of until all your clients are Windows 2000 or better. In
the meantime you can still utilize AD's features to better manage the
2000
and XP boxes you do have.

Dave

pjw@specialtyscre

Your definitely not in this alone. We are also moving print sharing,
file
sharing from Netware 4.11 to NT and then to AD. I have been looking for
the
best solution to the same question. I still run over 20 pcs on Windows
98
so
I'm waiting on AD until they are upgraded.

The solution may be as simple as "Shares with your permission granted on
NT
appear in My Network Places" automatically on XP or as messy as trying
to
understand a "Distributed File System" under Active Directory.

I'm testing solutions to this now on a test network.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: lheisey3 [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward.
My users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders.
Now they will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be
upset and struggle to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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system · March 27, 2003, 12:33pm

I was wondering if anyone has loaded Vantage onto a Windows.net/Windows 2003
server or whatever they are calling it today? I have Windows.net running as
my print server and I really like it. Just haven't tried playing with more
vital applications on it.

Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Mediger [mailto:JimM@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

True - the more Technically advanced you are the easier it will be. AD can
be self learned if you take the right approach.

1. Read, find all the info you can on AD.
2. Join a MS Admin Group.
3. Create a test Server/Domain. One you can tear down and start over.
4. Wait for Windows 2003. New version of AD, which is not 100% compatible
with AD 1.0 (supposed to be released in April).

For the original post:

AD can accomplish what you wish. Novell has a right called "File Scan" that
is "off" by default. MS has the Right "List Folder Contents" which is "on"
by default.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

I've heard that there are wonderful things that AD can do. But so far I
haven't heard about specifics of its advantages, what I have heard is of
interest to people of higher technical ability. What practicality is
there for a user who sees the pencil as the pinnacle of technology? Can
AD be learned "on the fly", if formal training is not an option? So far
my investigations answer this question as "NO". And once turned on you
cant practically turn it off again if you make a mistake.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Poskevich [mailto:dposkevich@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

There is no reason you can't map drives with Win2k Server just like you
did
with Novell. I have 98 and NT clients running just fine connecting to a
Windows 2000 AD infrastructure. Granted there are features of AD you
can't
take advantage of until all your clients are Windows 2000 or better. In
the meantime you can still utilize AD's features to better manage the
2000
and XP boxes you do have.

Dave

pjw@specialtyscre

Your definitely not in this alone. We are also moving print sharing,
file
sharing from Netware 4.11 to NT and then to AD. I have been looking for
the
best solution to the same question. I still run over 20 pcs on Windows
98
so
I'm waiting on AD until they are upgraded.

The solution may be as simple as "Shares with your permission granted on
NT
appear in My Network Places" automatically on XP or as messy as trying
to
understand a "Distributed File System" under Active Directory.

I'm testing solutions to this now on a test network.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: lheisey3 [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward.
My users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders.
Now they will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be
upset and struggle to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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system · March 27, 2003, 2:47pm

Vantage runs perfect on Windows Server 2003 <--- what they're calling it.

No problems here (Vantage 6.00.400 running a 1.5 GB database to a Windows XP
Pro Client)

-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard, Jeremy [mailto:jleonard@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:34 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

I was wondering if anyone has loaded Vantage onto a Windows.net/Windows 2003
server or whatever they are calling it today? I have Windows.net running as
my print server and I really like it. Just haven't tried playing with more
vital applications on it.

Jeremy Leonard
IT Manager
K-T Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Mediger [mailto:JimM@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

True - the more Technically advanced you are the easier it will be. AD can
be self learned if you take the right approach.

1. Read, find all the info you can on AD.
2. Join a MS Admin Group.
3. Create a test Server/Domain. One you can tear down and start over. 4.
Wait for Windows 2003. New version of AD, which is not 100% compatible with
AD 1.0 (supposed to be released in April).

For the original post:

AD can accomplish what you wish. Novell has a right called "File Scan" that
is "off" by default. MS has the Right "List Folder Contents" which is "on"
by default.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

I've heard that there are wonderful things that AD can do. But so far I
haven't heard about specifics of its advantages, what I have heard is of
interest to people of higher technical ability. What practicality is there
for a user who sees the pencil as the pinnacle of technology? Can AD be
learned "on the fly", if formal training is not an option? So far
my investigations answer this question as "NO". And once turned on you
cant practically turn it off again if you make a mistake.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Poskevich [mailto:dposkevich@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:54 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

There is no reason you can't map drives with Win2k Server just like you did
with Novell. I have 98 and NT clients running just fine connecting to a
Windows 2000 AD infrastructure. Granted there are features of AD you can't
take advantage of until all your clients are Windows 2000 or better. In the
meantime you can still utilize AD's features to better manage the 2000 and
XP boxes you do have.

Dave

pjw@specialtyscre

Your definitely not in this alone. We are also moving print sharing, file
sharing from Netware 4.11 to NT and then to AD. I have been looking for the
best solution to the same question. I still run over 20 pcs on Windows 98 so
I'm waiting on AD until they are upgraded.

The solution may be as simple as "Shares with your permission granted on NT
appear in My Network Places" automatically on XP or as messy as trying to
understand a "Distributed File System" under Active Directory.

I'm testing solutions to this now on a test network.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: lheisey3 [mailto:lheisey@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Off topic. I wondered if anyone could give me some guidance. I am
trying to get ready for AD rollout but I am concerned to go forward. My
users are very used to Novell and mapping to only their folders. Now they
will see all folders and that is a concern. They will be upset and struggle
to find their way. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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system · March 27, 2003, 3:04pm

Vantage 6.00.400 ??? It's not available to the rest of us is it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Vantage runs perfect on Windows Server 2003 <--- what they're calling it.

No problems here (Vantage 6.00.400 running a 1.5 GB database to a Windows XP
Pro Client)

system · March 27, 2003, 3:16pm

Didn't know it shipped yet?

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Finn [mailto:matt@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:03 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Vantage 6.00.400 ??? It's not available to the rest of us is it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Vantage runs perfect on Windows Server 2003 <--- what they're calling it.

No problems here (Vantage 6.00.400 running a 1.5 GB database to a Windows XP
Pro Client)

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system · March 27, 2003, 3:32pm

Most likely a beta test?

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone: 401-596-0162 x110
Fax: 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com

-----Original Message-----
From: pjw@... [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:16 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Didn't know it shipped yet?

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Finn [mailto:matt@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:03 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Vantage 6.00.400 ??? It's not available to the rest of us is it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - Active Directory Rollout

Vantage runs perfect on Windows Server 2003 <--- what they're calling it.

No problems here (Vantage 6.00.400 running a 1.5 GB database to a Windows XP
Pro Client)

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/