Again, if you use IMAP as the account type, you don't have the issue of
the mail getting "POPped" off of the Exchange Server...Candidly, you
don't even have to provide "real" account settings if your SMTP virtual
server in EX2003 is set up to allow relay from clients on the local
network -- i.e. you can completely "fake" all of the account header
information and simply use Exchange's SMTP service to send mail and
masquerade as any user you want. You could even send mail as
mickey@... if you were so inclined! (Of course, you'd never get a
reply, but in Todd's instance, his users would provide a legal return
address of user@... or what have you....)
John Sykes
Director, IT
Kaleidescape, Inc.
650.625.6161 O
209.795.4588 M
650.625.6101 F
mailto:john.sykes@...
www.kaleidescape.com
| -----Original Message-----
| From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Miller
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:13 AM
| To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
| What Todd is referring to will not work with Exchange.
| Outlook supports only one Exchange account at a time. You
| can have multiple POP 3 accounts along with Exchange but I
| believe in your case all of your accounts are from Exchange.
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Todd Hofert
| To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:46 AM
| Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
|
| Customer calls are not too big of an issue. Really none of
| it is too big
| of a "real" issue, more of a management perceived issue. I
| think in the
| 13 years I have held this position we have had one customer
| object to us
| (company A), providing material to ....us (company b), at a cheaper
| price than we (company a), gave to the customer quoting the
| same job as
| us(company b). You get where I am coming from....company a,
| b and c as
| company d and e are not really affected.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
| Of Charles Paluska - HPN
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:24 AM
| To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
| Todd,
|
| The easiest thing I can think of is to create another
| domain of a very
| non-descript nature that your "stealth" accounting
| department should use
| as their primary.
|
| That would mask your companies overall relationships - but
| it would lead
| to a little confusion on the senders part.
| They would wonder why email sent to todd@...
| always comes back
| as todd@....
| On another note - what happens when these customers call ?
| Does your
| phone system id the customers and inform the accounting people which
| company they are supposed to front ? ( Many call centers do this )
|
| And if someone just digs a little - using betterwhois.com
| to look at the
| registration of the domains - they might be able to figure out how
| everything is connected.
|
| Also, if you "forge" the headers your mail might be flagged as spam.
|
| I found this free add-in utility for Outlook 2003/xp - it
| might be able
| to do what you want it to.
|
| http://www.realpopup.it/realaccount/ no warranty - no
| guarantee - use
| at
| your own risk ! Not liable for anything !
|
| Charles
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Todd Hofert" <todd@...>
| To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:20 AM
| Subject: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
|
| > I administer the IT Operations for five companies. We all
| use one of
| two
| > MS Exchange 2003 Servers and each company has it's own
| domain name. We
| > have a centralized accounting department that accounts
| for all five
| > companies as well. One of our companies (Company A)
| manufactures goods
| > that are used by two of the other companies(Companies B & C). As a
| > result Company A's customers can be competitors of
| Company B & C. For
| > this reason, management at Company A does not want it's
| customers to
| > know of their relationship with Company B & C. So onto
| the problem....
| >
| > Often times our accounting department needs to
| communicate via e-mail
| > with customers regardless of company. What I need to do
| is develop a
| way
| > that they can change the domain name of their sending
| address to the
| > appropriate company. I currently have them all set up
| with an e-mail
| > address for each company. Like todd@...,
| todd@... or
| > todd@.... This allows them to receive mail from customers
| with
| > no problem, however, their primary e-mail address always shows on
| > messages they send. I have tried changing the FROM field to read a
| > different address but that doesn't work. Does anyone know
| how I can
| > configure these clients to send mail showing that shows as being
| "from"
| > a domain other than their Primary Address? Ideally it is
| user selected
| > at time the mail is composed?
| >
| > Thanks
| > Todd @ Company B...or was it C?
| >
| >
| > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and
| privileged
| > information. If you are not the intended recipient,
| please notify the
| > sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail
| and destroy
| any
| > copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a
| person other
| > than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
| >
| > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
| Note: You must
| have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to
| enable access. )
| > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
| Report Builder
| and
| Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
| > Yahoo! Groups Links
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
| Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
| Note: You must
| have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to
| enable access. )
| (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
| Report Builder
| and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
| Yahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential
| and privileged
| information. If you are not the intended recipient, please
| notify the
| sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and
| destroy any
| copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a
| person other
| than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
|
|
| Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
| Note: You must have already linked your email address to a
| yahoo id to enable access. )
| (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
| Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies',
| please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
| goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
|
|
|
| --------------------------------------------------------------
| ----------------
| YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
|
| a.. Visit your group "vantage" on the web.
|
| b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
| vantage-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
|
| c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
| Terms of Service.
|
|
| --------------------------------------------------------------
| ----------------
|
|
|
| [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
|
|
| ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
| --------------------~-->
| Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to
| the Sweet Life.
| http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/PhFolB/TM
| --------------------------------------------------------------
| ------~->
|
| Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note:
| You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id
| to enable access. )
| (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
| Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
| goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
| Yahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
the mail getting "POPped" off of the Exchange Server...Candidly, you
don't even have to provide "real" account settings if your SMTP virtual
server in EX2003 is set up to allow relay from clients on the local
network -- i.e. you can completely "fake" all of the account header
information and simply use Exchange's SMTP service to send mail and
masquerade as any user you want. You could even send mail as
mickey@... if you were so inclined! (Of course, you'd never get a
reply, but in Todd's instance, his users would provide a legal return
address of user@... or what have you....)
John Sykes
Director, IT
Kaleidescape, Inc.
650.625.6161 O
209.795.4588 M
650.625.6101 F
mailto:john.sykes@...
www.kaleidescape.com
| -----Original Message-----
| From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Miller
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:13 AM
| To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
| What Todd is referring to will not work with Exchange.
| Outlook supports only one Exchange account at a time. You
| can have multiple POP 3 accounts along with Exchange but I
| believe in your case all of your accounts are from Exchange.
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Todd Hofert
| To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:46 AM
| Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
|
| Customer calls are not too big of an issue. Really none of
| it is too big
| of a "real" issue, more of a management perceived issue. I
| think in the
| 13 years I have held this position we have had one customer
| object to us
| (company A), providing material to ....us (company b), at a cheaper
| price than we (company a), gave to the customer quoting the
| same job as
| us(company b). You get where I am coming from....company a,
| b and c as
| company d and e are not really affected.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
| Of Charles Paluska - HPN
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:24 AM
| To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
| Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
| Todd,
|
| The easiest thing I can think of is to create another
| domain of a very
| non-descript nature that your "stealth" accounting
| department should use
| as their primary.
|
| That would mask your companies overall relationships - but
| it would lead
| to a little confusion on the senders part.
| They would wonder why email sent to todd@...
| always comes back
| as todd@....
| On another note - what happens when these customers call ?
| Does your
| phone system id the customers and inform the accounting people which
| company they are supposed to front ? ( Many call centers do this )
|
| And if someone just digs a little - using betterwhois.com
| to look at the
| registration of the domains - they might be able to figure out how
| everything is connected.
|
| Also, if you "forge" the headers your mail might be flagged as spam.
|
| I found this free add-in utility for Outlook 2003/xp - it
| might be able
| to do what you want it to.
|
| http://www.realpopup.it/realaccount/ no warranty - no
| guarantee - use
| at
| your own risk ! Not liable for anything !
|
| Charles
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Todd Hofert" <todd@...>
| To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
| Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:20 AM
| Subject: [Vantage] OT Exchange 2003
|
|
| > I administer the IT Operations for five companies. We all
| use one of
| two
| > MS Exchange 2003 Servers and each company has it's own
| domain name. We
| > have a centralized accounting department that accounts
| for all five
| > companies as well. One of our companies (Company A)
| manufactures goods
| > that are used by two of the other companies(Companies B & C). As a
| > result Company A's customers can be competitors of
| Company B & C. For
| > this reason, management at Company A does not want it's
| customers to
| > know of their relationship with Company B & C. So onto
| the problem....
| >
| > Often times our accounting department needs to
| communicate via e-mail
| > with customers regardless of company. What I need to do
| is develop a
| way
| > that they can change the domain name of their sending
| address to the
| > appropriate company. I currently have them all set up
| with an e-mail
| > address for each company. Like todd@...,
| todd@... or
| > todd@.... This allows them to receive mail from customers
| with
| > no problem, however, their primary e-mail address always shows on
| > messages they send. I have tried changing the FROM field to read a
| > different address but that doesn't work. Does anyone know
| how I can
| > configure these clients to send mail showing that shows as being
| "from"
| > a domain other than their Primary Address? Ideally it is
| user selected
| > at time the mail is composed?
| >
| > Thanks
| > Todd @ Company B...or was it C?
| >
| >
| > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and
| privileged
| > information. If you are not the intended recipient,
| please notify the
| > sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail
| and destroy
| any
| > copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a
| person other
| > than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
| >
| > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
| Note: You must
| have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to
| enable access. )
| > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
| Report Builder
| and
| Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
| > Yahoo! Groups Links
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
| Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
| Note: You must
| have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to
| enable access. )
| (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
| Report Builder
| and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
| Yahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential
| and privileged
| information. If you are not the intended recipient, please
| notify the
| sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and
| destroy any
| copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a
| person other
| than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
|
|
| Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: (
| Note: You must have already linked your email address to a
| yahoo id to enable access. )
| (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for
| Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies',
| please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
| goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
|
|
|
| --------------------------------------------------------------
| ----------------
| YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
|
| a.. Visit your group "vantage" on the web.
|
| b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
| vantage-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
|
| c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
| Terms of Service.
|
|
| --------------------------------------------------------------
| ----------------
|
|
|
| [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
|
|
| ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
| --------------------~-->
| Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to
| the Sweet Life.
| http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/PhFolB/TM
| --------------------------------------------------------------
| ------~->
|
| Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note:
| You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id
| to enable access. )
| (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
| Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
| (2) To search through old msg's goto:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
| (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
| goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
| Yahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|
|
|
|
|