[OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit

Here's a Microsoft document on how to do this. The document is for
Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2000 Standard



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/254132/en-us



Hope this helps



Thanks,



Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@...

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gerard Wadman
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit



If you hit the limit, your informaion store will shut down, it will not
corrupt your Exchange server.
The edb and mdb files use data blocks so once space is allocated it is
committed even if the data is purged.

You need to do three things
1st, Have all your users clean out their junk mail and deleted items
folders.
2nd, Remove any mailboxes no longer in use, former employees etc.
3rd, Run the ES Utility (ESUTIL) to repackage your edb and mdb files
which will create new dbs using only the amount of data blocks it needs.

Generally you will reduce the size of your exchange databases by 20 to
30 percent.


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> on
behalf of Todd Caughey
Sent: Mon 5/7/2007 12:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit

I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.

Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When I look
at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total arounf
14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
spreadsheet (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is
16.5GB.

If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail store and
recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.

So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the physical
space on the drive?

Thanks,
-Todd

PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and put
multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
problem will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.

Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When I look at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total arounf 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a spreadsheet (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.

If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail store and recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.

So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the physical space on the drive?

Thanks,
-Todd

PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and put multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this problem will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes are
gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get rid of
the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It was
either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be an 'open' 16
gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.

On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...> wrote:
>
> I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
>
> Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When I look
> at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total arounf
> 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a spreadsheet
> (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
>
> If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail store and
> recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
>
> So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the physical space
> on the drive?
>
> Thanks,
> -Todd
>
> PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and put
> multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this problem
> will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
There is a registry hack that will allow you to temporarily increase the
size of the message store so that you can delete some data from the db.
Then, defrag the db and it will free up the used space. We had to do
this at one point with our Exchange 2000 server right before we upgraded
to Exchange 2003. I don't remember the specifics but you should be able
to find it on the MS support site.

Mike Lowe
Corporate I.T. Manager
Connor Manufacturing Services
Direct: (949) 713-3328
Fax: (949) 666-5268
Cell: (949) 973-7621
Skype: Mike.Lowe
Email: MLowe@... <mailto:MLowe@...>
Web: www.connorms.com <http://www.connorms.com/>


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of zjumper
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit



I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes are
gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get rid of
the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It was
either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be an 'open'
16
gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.

On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...
<mailto:caugheyt%40harveyvogel.com> > wrote:
>
> I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
>
> Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When I
look
> at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total arounf
> 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
spreadsheet
> (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
>
> If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail store
and
> recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
>
> So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the physical
space
> on the drive?
>
> Thanks,
> -Todd
>
> PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and put
> multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
problem
> will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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I got this reply from a Exchange MVP.

Exchange stores messages using a concept called SIS (Single Instance
Store)
so if there are multiple recipients on a message, the message only
gets
stored once. That's why you're seeing the difference.

Don't panic! You do need to do something, but if you hit the limit
you'll
be ok for a while... Please read this
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051


So you've got a little breathing space :) But you must address it.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...> wrote:
>
> There is a registry hack that will allow you to temporarily
increase the
> size of the message store so that you can delete some data from the
db.
> Then, defrag the db and it will free up the used space. We had to
do
> this at one point with our Exchange 2000 server right before we
upgraded
> to Exchange 2003. I don't remember the specifics but you should be
able
> to find it on the MS support site.
>
> Mike Lowe
> Corporate I.T. Manager
> Connor Manufacturing Services
> Direct: (949) 713-3328
> Fax: (949) 666-5268
> Cell: (949) 973-7621
> Skype: Mike.Lowe
> Email: MLowe@... <mailto:MLowe@...>
> Web: www.connorms.com <http://www.connorms.com/>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of zjumper
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:48 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
>
>
>
> I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes
are
> gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get
rid of
> the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It
was
> either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be
an 'open'
> 16
> gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
> databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.
>
> On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...
> <mailto:caugheyt%40harveyvogel.com> > wrote:
> >
> > I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
> >
> > Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When
I
> look
> > at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total
arounf
> > 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
> spreadsheet
> > (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
> >
> > If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail
store
> and
> > recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
> >
> > So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the
physical
> space
> > on the drive?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Todd
> >
> > PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and
put
> > multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
> problem
> > will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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>
Thank you! The link was very helpful and confirmed that the physical space of the two files is what counts. I recalculated and amy at 14.5GB. If users respond to pleas and delete (especially Sent Items) we will be fine for thre two weeks until we migrate to 2007. If not I will hack the limit and buy more time.
-Todd C.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of sanfranc415
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit



I got this reply from a Exchange MVP.

Exchange stores messages using a concept called SIS (Single Instance
Store)
so if there are multiple recipients on a message, the message only
gets
stored once. That's why you're seeing the difference.

Don't panic! You do need to do something, but if you hit the limit
you'll
be ok for a while... Please read this
http://support. <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051> microsoft.com/kb/813051

So you've got a little breathing space :) But you must address it.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com, "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...> wrote:
>
> There is a registry hack that will allow you to temporarily
increase the
> size of the message store so that you can delete some data from the
db.
> Then, defrag the db and it will free up the used space. We had to
do
> this at one point with our Exchange 2000 server right before we
upgraded
> to Exchange 2003. I don't remember the specifics but you should be
able
> to find it on the MS support site.
>
> Mike Lowe
> Corporate I.T. Manager
> Connor Manufacturing Services
> Direct: (949) 713-3328
> Fax: (949) 666-5268
> Cell: (949) 973-7621
> Skype: Mike.Lowe
> Email: MLowe@... <mailto:MLowe@...>
> Web: www.connorms.com < http://www.connorms <http://www.connorms.com/> .com/>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf
> Of zjumper
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:48 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
>
>
>
> I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes
are
> gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get
rid of
> the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It
was
> either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be
an 'open'
> 16
> gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
> databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.
>
> On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...
> <mailto:caugheyt%40harveyvogel.com> > wrote:
> >
> > I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
> >
> > Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When
I
> look
> > at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total
arounf
> > 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
> spreadsheet
> > (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
> >
> > If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail
store
> and
> > recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
> >
> > So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the
physical
> space
> > on the drive?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Todd
> >
> > PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and
put
> > multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
> problem
> > will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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>







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Todd,
Another option would be to have your users archive some of their
messages if they really need to keep them. Just be aware of the 2GB
limit on PST files.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:16 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit

Thank you! The link was very helpful and confirmed that the physical
space of the two files is what counts. I recalculated and amy at 14.5GB.
If users respond to pleas and delete (especially Sent Items) we will be
fine for thre two weeks until we migrate to 2007. If not I will hack the
limit and buy more time.
-Todd C.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of sanfranc415
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit

I got this reply from a Exchange MVP.

Exchange stores messages using a concept called SIS (Single Instance
Store)
so if there are multiple recipients on a message, the message only
gets
stored once. That's why you're seeing the difference.

Don't panic! You do need to do something, but if you hit the limit
you'll
be ok for a while... Please read this
http://support. <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051> > microsoft.com/kb/813051

So you've got a little breathing space :) But you must address it.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com,
"Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...> wrote:
>
> There is a registry hack that will allow you to temporarily
increase the
> size of the message store so that you can delete some data from the
db.
> Then, defrag the db and it will free up the used space. We had to
do
> this at one point with our Exchange 2000 server right before we
upgraded
> to Exchange 2003. I don't remember the specifics but you should be
able
> to find it on the MS support site.
>
> Mike Lowe
> Corporate I.T. Manager
> Connor Manufacturing Services
> Direct: (949) 713-3328
> Fax: (949) 666-5268
> Cell: (949) 973-7621
> Skype: Mike.Lowe
> Email: MLowe@... <mailto:MLowe@...>
> Web: www.connorms.com < http://www.connorms <http://www.connorms.com/
<http://www.connorms.com/> > .com/>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On

Behalf
> Of zjumper
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:48 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
>
>
>
> I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes
are
> gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get
rid of
> the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It
was
> either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be
an 'open'
> 16
> gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
> databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.
>
> On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...
> <mailto:caugheyt%40harveyvogel.com> > wrote:
> >
> > I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
> >
> > Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When
I
> look
> > at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total
arounf
> > 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
> spreadsheet
> > (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
> >
> > If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail
store
> and
> > recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
> >
> > So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the
physical
> space
> > on the drive?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Todd
> >
> > PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and
put
> > multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
> problem
> > will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Can't they archive their messages? I have all my users setup to archive
anything older than 3 months automatically every day. I don't have any
complaints *knocks on wood*.

On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you! The link was very helpful and confirmed that the physical
> space of the two files is what counts. I recalculated and amy at 14.5GB.
> If users respond to pleas and delete (especially Sent Items) we will be fine
> for thre two weeks until we migrate to 2007. If not I will hack the limit
> and buy more time.
> -Todd C.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of
> sanfranc415
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:23 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
>
> I got this reply from a Exchange MVP.
>
> Exchange stores messages using a concept called SIS (Single Instance
> Store)
> so if there are multiple recipients on a message, the message only
> gets
> stored once. That's why you're seeing the difference.
>
> Don't panic! You do need to do something, but if you hit the limit
> you'll
> be ok for a while... Please read this
> http://support. <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051> microsoft.com/kb/813051
>
>
> So you've got a little breathing space :) But you must address it.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>40yahoogroups.com>
> .com, "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...> wrote:
> >
> > There is a registry hack that will allow you to temporarily
> increase the
> > size of the message store so that you can delete some data from the
> db.
> > Then, defrag the db and it will free up the used space. We had to
> do
> > this at one point with our Exchange 2000 server right before we
> upgraded
> > to Exchange 2003. I don't remember the specifics but you should be
> able
> > to find it on the MS support site.
> >
> > Mike Lowe
> > Corporate I.T. Manager
> > Connor Manufacturing Services
> > Direct: (949) 713-3328
> > Fax: (949) 666-5268
> > Cell: (949) 973-7621
> > Skype: Mike.Lowe
> > Email: MLowe@... <mailto:MLowe@...>
> > Web: www.connorms.com < http://www.connorms <http://www.connorms.com/>
> .com/>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>40yahoogroups.com>
> .com [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>
> 40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> Behalf
> > Of zjumper
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:48 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>40yahoogroups.com>
> .com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
> >
> >
> >
> > I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes
> are
> > gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get
> rid of
> > the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It
> was
> > either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be
> an 'open'
> > 16
> > gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
> > databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...
> > <mailto:caugheyt% <caugheyt%25>40harveyvogel.com> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
> > >
> > > Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When
> I
> > look
> > > at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total
> arounf
> > > 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
> > spreadsheet
> > > (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
> > >
> > > If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail
> store
> > and
> > > recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
> > >
> > > So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the
> physical
> > space
> > > on the drive?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Todd
> > >
> > > PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and
> put
> > > multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
> > problem
> > > will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________
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> System.
> > For more information please visit http://www.messagel <
> http://www.messagelabs.com/email> abs.com/email
> >
> __________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Can't they archive their messages? I have all my users setup to archive
anything older than 3 months automatically every day. I don't have any
complaints *knocks on wood*.

On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you! The link was very helpful and confirmed that the physical
> space of the two files is what counts. I recalculated and amy at 14.5GB.
> If users respond to pleas and delete (especially Sent Items) we will be fine
> for thre two weeks until we migrate to 2007. If not I will hack the limit
> and buy more time.
> -Todd C.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of
> sanfranc415
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:23 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
>
> I got this reply from a Exchange MVP.
>
> Exchange stores messages using a concept called SIS (Single Instance
> Store)
> so if there are multiple recipients on a message, the message only
> gets
> stored once. That's why you're seeing the difference.
>
> Don't panic! You do need to do something, but if you hit the limit
> you'll
> be ok for a while... Please read this
> http://support. <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051> microsoft.com/kb/813051
>
>
> So you've got a little breathing space :) But you must address it.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>40yahoogroups.com>
> .com, "Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...> wrote:
> >
> > There is a registry hack that will allow you to temporarily
> increase the
> > size of the message store so that you can delete some data from the
> db.
> > Then, defrag the db and it will free up the used space. We had to
> do
> > this at one point with our Exchange 2000 server right before we
> upgraded
> > to Exchange 2003. I don't remember the specifics but you should be
> able
> > to find it on the MS support site.
> >
> > Mike Lowe
> > Corporate I.T. Manager
> > Connor Manufacturing Services
> > Direct: (949) 713-3328
> > Fax: (949) 666-5268
> > Cell: (949) 973-7621
> > Skype: Mike.Lowe
> > Email: MLowe@... <mailto:MLowe@...>
> > Web: www.connorms.com < http://www.connorms <http://www.connorms.com/>
> .com/>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>40yahoogroups.com>
> .com [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>
> 40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
> Behalf
> > Of zjumper
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:48 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage% <vantage%25>40yahoogroups.com>
> .com
> > Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
> >
> >
> >
> > I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes
> are
> > gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get
> rid of
> > the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It
> was
> > either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be
> an 'open'
> > 16
> > gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
> > databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.
> >
> > On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...
> > <mailto:caugheyt% <caugheyt%25>40harveyvogel.com> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
> > >
> > > Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When
> I
> > look
> > > at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total
> arounf
> > > 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
> > spreadsheet
> > > (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
> > >
> > > If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail
> store
> > and
> > > recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
> > >
> > > So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the
> physical
> > space
> > > on the drive?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Todd
> > >
> > > PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and
> put
> > > multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
> > problem
> > > will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Already doing archives..for years. Some people have 5-6 PST files and make more as they near 2GB. Most do autoarchive but usually forget to set setting on new sub-folders. Once we get to the SAN I will have them un-archive. Might awa well because their local settings folder will also be on the SAN. One reason for multiple stores will be store-by-store quotas...unlimited for VP types and above, large (10GB) for managers and less as you go down the ladder. Then have them archive after that. For now I would rather they delete than archive as long as it will be only a couple weeks. I am monitoring store file size daily and will fore emergency archives as last resort.
-Todd C.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Crosta
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit



Todd,
Another option would be to have your users archive some of their
messages if they really need to keep them. Just be aware of the 2GB
limit on PST files.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:16 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit

Thank you! The link was very helpful and confirmed that the physical
space of the two files is what counts. I recalculated and amy at 14.5GB.
If users respond to pleas and delete (especially Sent Items) we will be
fine for thre two weeks until we migrate to 2007. If not I will hack the
limit and buy more time.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of sanfranc415
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:23 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit

I got this reply from a Exchange MVP.

Exchange stores messages using a concept called SIS (Single Instance
Store)
so if there are multiple recipients on a message, the message only
gets
stored once. That's why you're seeing the difference.

Don't panic! You do need to do something, but if you hit the limit
you'll
be ok for a while... Please read this
http://support. < http://support. <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051> microsoft.com/kb/813051
< http://support. <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813051> microsoft.com/kb/813051> > microsoft.com/kb/813051

So you've got a little breathing space :) But you must address it.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com,
"Mike Lowe" <MLowe@...> wrote:
>
> There is a registry hack that will allow you to temporarily
increase the
> size of the message store so that you can delete some data from the
db.
> Then, defrag the db and it will free up the used space. We had to
do
> this at one point with our Exchange 2000 server right before we
upgraded
> to Exchange 2003. I don't remember the specifics but you should be
able
> to find it on the MS support site.
>
> Mike Lowe
> Corporate I.T. Manager
> Connor Manufacturing Services
> Direct: (949) 713-3328
> Fax: (949) 666-5268
> Cell: (949) 973-7621
> Skype: Mike.Lowe
> Email: MLowe@... <mailto:MLowe@...>
> Web: www.connorms.com < http://www.connorms < http://www.connorms <http://www.connorms.com/> .com/
< http://www.connorms <http://www.connorms.com/> .com/> > .com/>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On

Behalf
> Of zjumper
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:48 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit
>
>
>
> I had this discussion on another forum. Even though your mailboxes
are
> gone, the database file stays the same size. I think when you get
rid of
> the mailboxes you need to purge exchange, if i'm not mistaken. It
was
> either that or even though the database is 16gigs it will be
an 'open'
> 16
> gigs which will allow you to recreate new mailboxes inside of the
> databases. I will see if I can dig up all the details.
>
> On 5/7/07, Todd Caughey <caugheyt@...
> <mailto:caugheyt%40harveyvogel.com> > wrote:
> >
> > I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.
> >
> > Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When
I
> look
> > at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total
arounf
> > 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a
> spreadsheet
> > (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.
> >
> > If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail
store
> and
> > recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.
> >
> > So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the
physical
> space
> > on the drive?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Todd
> >
> > PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and
put
> > multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this
> problem
> > will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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If you hit the limit, your informaion store will shut down, it will not corrupt your Exchange server.
The edb and mdb files use data blocks so once space is allocated it is committed even if the data is purged.

You need to do three things
1st, Have all your users clean out their junk mail and deleted items folders.
2nd, Remove any mailboxes no longer in use, former employees etc.
3rd, Run the ES Utility (ESUTIL) to repackage your edb and mdb files which will create new dbs using only the amount of data blocks it needs.

Generally you will reduce the size of your exchange databases by 20 to 30 percent.


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Todd Caughey
Sent: Mon 5/7/2007 12:39 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange Server 2000 - 16GB Limit



I need a quick opinion from anyone who is an expert with Exchange.

Exchange Server 2000 has a limit of the email store of 16GB. When I look at the Priv1.EDB file and the Priv1.stmt file sizes they total arounf 14GB. BUT....when I dump all the individual mailbox sizes to a spreadsheet (from Exchange System Manager Mailboxes list) the total is 16.5GB.

If we hit the limit I am told it will totally corrupt the mail store and recovery is nearly impossible. All messages will be lost.

So...which total counts? The total of the mailboxes or the physical space on the drive?

Thanks,
-Todd

PS...we have a new email server and will migrate to EXCH2007 and put multiple email stores on SAN within the next two weeks. Then this problem will go away. IF we survive to then. This is a nail biter.

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