[OT] HD Image Copy

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At 01:06 PM 10/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a NTFS disk that I would like to backup to another.
>I would like to do this at night 3:00 am.
>I want only the data no programs.
>Can I use the xcopy to do this?

I don't think NT4 had xcopy, but 2000 and XP do. From a command prompt,
you can type XCOPY /? | MORE to see the options. There's an
/EXCLUDE switch you can use to skip exe, dll, etc files. Maybe:
XCOPY D:\*.* Z:\BACKUP /C /H /E /O /EXCLUDE:Exclude.Lis

That will get a quick & dirty copy with individual files easily
accessible. For your real backups, you should probably use one of the
aftermarket backup programs, or at least a [possibly free-ware] utility to
crunch the data into a single compressed archive file, like a .zip format.

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three -- Information Technology Consulting
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Walked into office after Perspectives to find hard drive failure on head book keeper's PC. While gone it blew a chip on controller board (litterly blew a hole in it - 2nd time for us on Quantum Fireball drive) and after board was replaced (from another drive) it is now making very strange clicking noises and crashes after a few minutes (unable to write to drive).

So off to CompUSA I go to get a replacement drive. I want to try to image copy from old drive to new rather than have to reload everything. Any suggestions for off-shelf software that is reliable and perhaps tolelrant of sector damage on the fried drive? I am expecting to boot from a floppy or startup disk. I have the Maxtor MaxBlast utility disks - has anyone used these for an image copy?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.



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Todd,
MaxBlast is great if it doesn't find any sector errors. It
won't copy if it does. I don't hold out much hope for your drive. The
clicking is its attempts to read the damaged sector. One thing you
might try first, slave the drive to a working system, and run chkdsk
with the \F option. Then restart the machine and let it try and fix the
errors. Sometimes that will make it work long enough to get the image
off of it. Also while its slaved you might see if it can be read at
all. If it can't then don't count on a rescue, its just "kitty
magnets".

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:21 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] HD Image Copy

Walked into office after Perspectives to find hard drive failure on head
book keeper's PC. While gone it blew a chip on controller board
(litterly blew a hole in it - 2nd time for us on Quantum Fireball drive)
and after board was replaced (from another drive) it is now making very
strange clicking noises and crashes after a few minutes (unable to write
to drive).

So off to CompUSA I go to get a replacement drive. I want to try to
image copy from old drive to new rather than have to reload everything.
Any suggestions for off-shelf software that is reliable and perhaps
tolelrant of sector damage on the fried drive? I am expecting to boot
from a floppy or startup disk. I have the Maxtor MaxBlast utility disks
- has anyone used these for an image copy?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:21 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] HD Image Copy


Walked into office after Perspectives to find hard drive failure on head
book keeper's PC. While gone it blew a chip on controller board (litterly
blew a hole in it - 2nd time for us on Quantum Fireball drive) and after
board was replaced (from another drive) it is now making very strange
clicking noises and crashes after a few minutes (unable to write to drive).

So off to CompUSA I go to get a replacement drive. I want to try to image
copy from old drive to new rather than have to reload everything. Any
suggestions for off-shelf software that is reliable and perhaps tolelrant of
sector damage on the fried drive? I am expecting to boot from a floppy or
startup disk. I have the Maxtor MaxBlast utility disks - has anyone used
these for an image copy?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.



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If you want to copy to/from a WD drive, you can use their utility at
http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp#dlgtools
to copy a drive.

Jim Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] HD Image Copy

Walked into office after Perspectives to find hard drive failure on head
book keeper's PC. While gone it blew a chip on controller board (litterly
blew a hole in it - 2nd time for us on Quantum Fireball drive) and after
board was replaced (from another drive) it is now making very strange
clicking noises and crashes after a few minutes (unable to write to drive).

So off to CompUSA I go to get a replacement drive. I want to try to image
copy from old drive to new rather than have to reload everything. Any
suggestions for off-shelf software that is reliable and perhaps tolelrant of
sector damage on the fried drive? I am expecting to boot from a floppy or
startup disk. I have the Maxtor MaxBlast utility disks - has anyone used
these for an image copy?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
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At 09:20 AM 10/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I want to try to image copy from old drive to new rather than have to
>reload everything. Any suggestions for off-shelf software that is
>reliable and perhaps tolerant of sector damage on the fried drive? I am
>expecting to boot from a floppy

What OS and file system are you using? If it's FAT or FAT32, you can
use: XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /C /H /E /K

The /C switch tells it to report IO errors, and continue to the next file
rather than bombing out.

If it's NTFS, you can use something like Power Quest's Drive Image software
to make an exact disk to disk image. Back when I was stuck playing PC
technician for 50 or 60 machines, I used a boot floppy that would bring up
Win 95 or 98 to a command prompt with networking enabled. From there I
could connect to a network drive, run Drive Image from it, and burn a quick
image backup of the PC over the wire. Very handy for "CYA" backups when
swapping or fixing PCs.


-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three - Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338



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This is a Win98se machine and FAT32.

I got the drive and a copy of CopyCommander. But CopyCommander kept freezing part way through. I am now trying MaxBlast that came with the new drive. I did not try the FDISK /R yet but will if MaxBlast fails.

Not a huge issue if drive is lost since all the user data is on server. But copying drive would save reloading the OS and all the software.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
-Todd C.

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From: wmc20@... [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:05 PM
To: vantage@...
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] HD Image Copy


At 09:20 AM 10/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I want to try to image copy from old drive to new rather than have to
>reload everything. Any suggestions for off-shelf software that is
>reliable and perhaps tolerant of sector damage on the fried drive? I am
>expecting to boot from a floppy

What OS and file system are you using? If it's FAT or FAT32, you can
use: XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /C /H /E /K

The /C switch tells it to report IO errors, and continue to the next file
rather than bombing out.

If it's NTFS, you can use something like Power Quest's Drive Image software
to make an exact disk to disk image. Back when I was stuck playing PC
technician for 50 or 60 machines, I used a boot floppy that would bring up
Win 95 or 98 to a command prompt with networking enabled. From there I
could connect to a network drive, run Drive Image from it, and burn a quick
image backup of the PC over the wire. Very handy for "CYA" backups when
swapping or fixing PCs.


-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three - Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338



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Hi Wayne,



I have a NTFS disk that I would like to backup to another.

I would like to do this at night 3:00 am.

I want only the data no programs.

Can I use the xcopy to do this?



Thanks,



John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal





-----Original Message-----
From: wmc20@... [mailto:wmc20@...]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:05 PM
To: vantage@...
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] HD Image Copy



At 09:20 AM 10/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I want to try to image copy from old drive to new rather than have to
>reload everything. Any suggestions for off-shelf software that is
>reliable and perhaps tolerant of sector damage on the fried drive? I
am
>expecting to boot from a floppy

What OS and file system are you using? If it's FAT or FAT32, you can
use: XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /C /H /E /K

The /C switch tells it to report IO errors, and continue to the next
file
rather than bombing out.

If it's NTFS, you can use something like Power Quest's Drive Image
software
to make an exact disk to disk image. Back when I was stuck playing PC
technician for 50 or 60 machines, I used a boot floppy that would bring
up
Win 95 or 98 to a command prompt with networking enabled. From there I
could connect to a network drive, run Drive Image from it, and burn a
quick
image backup of the PC over the wire. Very handy for "CYA" backups when

swapping or fixing PCs.


-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three - Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338



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