OT: Home Computers

system · August 14, 2003, 3:34pm

ZoneAlarm 4 is solid but the free version doesn't allow you to specify IP
address ranges to exclude or include or other more advanced filtering
functions.

Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron.hoyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

Correct me if I am wrong, but I have Zonalarm and have been using it at home
for a long time... The things that are missing from the basic are things
like virus protection and reporting (I have Norton for virus, and don't have
the time to look over the reporting log anyway).
Also, I have stuck the free download on a CD with the CA version of the
removal of the SAN thing for my home users for this reason... My
understanding of the spread of this SAN thing is it looks for an open port
139 and slips in. Zone Alarm runs ports in full stealth mode so the
infecting machine will not even know you are there. If this is true, my
reasoning is to remove the virus, and then install ZoneAlarm all while
offline, and then connect to the internet once protected (yea, download the
update from MS when you can get it).
It worked for at least one of my users, but can anyone see a flaw?

Aaron Hoyt
Design Standards

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Maddox [mailto:dmaddox@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

Mitchell,

I second this. You open the ports YOU want to open. If something
"spy-ish" tries to establish an outgoing connection, ZoneAlarm can be set
to prompt you for permission.

Dan Maddox
Pactiv Corp

At 10:15 AM 8/14/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Dial-ups don't generally need the protection but the best I've found that

is

>free is Zone Alarm. It is great
>
>Jim Carnes
>Information Systems
>Kenlee Precision Corporation
>1700 Morrell Park Ave
>Baltimore, MD 21230
>410-525-3800 x132
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:09 AM
>To: Vantage (E-mail)
>Subject: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers
>
>With the recent news about the new virus attacks several of my users are
>asking me about protecting their home computers. I encourage them to have
>up to date virus protection. The subject of firewalls came up. Is this
>really necessary for a casual user on a dial up connection? If so, how
>about a recommendation of something that is free (or cheap) and/or easy to
>use since I will be expected to also show them how to use it.
>
>I am not up on software firewalls since we use a hardware solution for our
>main and remote locations.
>
>Mitchell Kirby
>Riten Industries, Inc.
>
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>800-338-0027 Sales
>800-338-0717 FAX
>
>
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system · August 14, 2003, 10:08am

With the recent news about the new virus attacks several of my users are
asking me about protecting their home computers. I encourage them to have
up to date virus protection. The subject of firewalls came up. Is this
really necessary for a casual user on a dial up connection? If so, how
about a recommendation of something that is free (or cheap) and/or easy to
use since I will be expected to also show them how to use it.

I am not up on software firewalls since we use a hardware solution for our
main and remote locations.

Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX

system · August 14, 2003, 10:11am

I have had zone labs zone alarm at home for a couple years. I believe
it's still free for home use and fairly easy to use.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Vantage (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

With the recent news about the new virus attacks several of my users are
asking me about protecting their home computers. I encourage them to
have
up to date virus protection. The subject of firewalls came up. Is this
really necessary for a casual user on a dial up connection? If so, how
about a recommendation of something that is free (or cheap) and/or easy
to
use since I will be expected to also show them how to use it.

I am not up on software firewalls since we use a hardware solution for
our
main and remote locations.

Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX

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system · August 14, 2003, 10:14am

Dial-ups donÂ’t generally need the protection but the best IÂ’ve found that is
free is Zone Alarm. It is great

Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Vantage (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

With the recent news about the new virus attacks several of my users are
asking me about protecting their home computers. I encourage them to have
up to date virus protection. The subject of firewalls came up. Is this
really necessary for a casual user on a dial up connection? If so, how
about a recommendation of something that is free (or cheap) and/or easy to
use since I will be expected to also show them how to use it.

I am not up on software firewalls since we use a hardware solution for our
main and remote locations.

Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX

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system · August 14, 2003, 10:23am

That kind of depends. With insane media companies, identity thieves,
Paranoid security agencies, dysfunctional teenagers, hackers,
terrorists, spammers, hijackers, porn sites, virus', Trojans, worms, and
people just trying to sell you stuff, (did I forget anybody) all
trying to look into any open internet port. No I don't think a casual
user has a thing to worry about.

(PS - The RIAA and the MPAA has tried to punch through my defenses 15
times in the past 2 weeks. And I don't use Kaaza and the other file
sharing services. I deflect 30 to 40 attempts a week to enter my home
system)

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates Inc.

Tracking #: 4D428600A3FF5640900CDC90185B19F33D48F88C

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system · August 14, 2003, 10:45am

Wow, tell us what you really think! :-) You're making me paranoid Shirley.

How about a recommendation. I think I read that you use Black Ice Defender.
Is it easy to use for a casual user? I have Zone Alarm at home but I didn't
really work with it much since I used to be dial-up. I just added cable so
I can work from home. My users asking me about what to do is timely since I
need to work on my own defenses, especially since I am going wireless at
home.

One of my users read that the free version of Zone Alarm was dumbed down so
much it didn't get the job done. Any comments to that?

Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

That kind of depends. With insane media companies, identity thieves,
Paranoid security agencies, dysfunctional teenagers, hackers,
terrorists, spammers, hijackers, porn sites, virus', Trojans, worms, and
people just trying to sell you stuff, (did I forget anybody) all
trying to look into any open internet port. No I don't think a casual
user has a thing to worry about.

(PS - The RIAA and the MPAA has tried to punch through my defenses 15
times in the past 2 weeks. And I don't use Kaaza and the other file
sharing services. I deflect 30 to 40 attempts a week to enter my home
system)

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates Inc.

Tracking #: 4D428600A3FF5640900CDC90185B19F33D48F88C

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system · August 14, 2003, 10:45am

Mitchell,

I second this. You open the ports YOU want to open. If something
"spy-ish" tries to establish an outgoing connection, ZoneAlarm can be set
to prompt you for permission.

Dan Maddox
Pactiv Corp

At 10:15 AM 8/14/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Dial-ups don't generally need the protection but the best I've found that is
>free is Zone Alarm. It is great
>
>Jim Carnes
>Information Systems
>Kenlee Precision Corporation
>1700 Morrell Park Ave
>Baltimore, MD 21230
>410-525-3800 x132
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:09 AM
>To: Vantage (E-mail)
>Subject: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers
>
>With the recent news about the new virus attacks several of my users are
>asking me about protecting their home computers. I encourage them to have
>up to date virus protection. The subject of firewalls came up. Is this
>really necessary for a casual user on a dial up connection? If so, how
>about a recommendation of something that is free (or cheap) and/or easy to
>use since I will be expected to also show them how to use it.
>
>I am not up on software firewalls since we use a hardware solution for our
>main and remote locations.
>
>Mitchell Kirby
>Riten Industries, Inc.
>
>740-333-8719 Direct
>800-338-0027 Sales
>800-338-0717 FAX
>
>
>
>
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>
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system · August 14, 2003, 10:57am

From what I have personally seen over the last two days, being behind
a firewall is no guarantee (two WIN2K machines on our corp. network
behind a Sonicwall hardware firewall got hit, shame on me for not
having all the patches in place). Also had a home user on dial-up
that got hit as well as a home user on cable. Looks like anybody
running an unpatched NT based system is vulnerable.
This is a nasty bug, I can hardly wait to see what the next mutation
is going to be.

John Elder, Network Admin.
Penn State Tool & Die

system · August 14, 2003, 11:03am

Do a google on Peer Guardian. It blocks 53 Million IP's. It also logs
who and when, very interesting listing of addresses. Its free, its
updatable, its very very simple, very low resource usage. Black Ice is
a pay program, but does a very good job guarding the door. Add to that
list Spyware Blaster, Adaware 6.0 , The Cleaner, Spyware Search and
Destroy, Ad Muncher, Ad Shield, and Ontrack System Suite. . I keep them
all running all the time. All of them have caught and kicked something.
Its like having a slavering pack of rabid dogs, keeping out the bad
guys.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:46 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

Wow, tell us what you really think! :-) You're making me paranoid
Shirley.

How about a recommendation. I think I read that you use Black Ice
Defender.
Is it easy to use for a casual user? I have Zone Alarm at home but I
didn't
really work with it much since I used to be dial-up. I just added cable
so
I can work from home. My users asking me about what to do is timely
since I
need to work on my own defenses, especially since I am going wireless at
home.

One of my users read that the free version of Zone Alarm was dumbed down
so
much it didn't get the job done. Any comments to that?

Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.

740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

That kind of depends. With insane media companies, identity thieves,
Paranoid security agencies, dysfunctional teenagers, hackers,
terrorists, spammers, hijackers, porn sites, virus', Trojans, worms, and
people just trying to sell you stuff, (did I forget anybody) all
trying to look into any open internet port. No I don't think a casual
user has a thing to worry about.

(PS - The RIAA and the MPAA has tried to punch through my defenses 15
times in the past 2 weeks. And I don't use Kaaza and the other file
sharing services. I deflect 30 to 40 attempts a week to enter my home
system)

Shirley Graver
Sys Admin
Rubber Associates Inc.

Tracking #: 4D428600A3FF5640900CDC90185B19F33D48F88C

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system · August 14, 2003, 3:21pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but I have Zonalarm and have been using it at home
for a long time... The things that are missing from the basic are things
like virus protection and reporting (I have Norton for virus, and don't have
the time to look over the reporting log anyway).
Also, I have stuck the free download on a CD with the CA version of the
removal of the SAN thing for my home users for this reason... My
understanding of the spread of this SAN thing is it looks for an open port
139 and slips in. Zone Alarm runs ports in full stealth mode so the
infecting machine will not even know you are there. If this is true, my
reasoning is to remove the virus, and then install ZoneAlarm all while
offline, and then connect to the internet once protected (yea, download the
update from MS when you can get it).
It worked for at least one of my users, but can anyone see a flaw?

Aaron Hoyt
Design Standards

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Maddox [mailto:dmaddox@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

Mitchell,

I second this. You open the ports YOU want to open. If something
"spy-ish" tries to establish an outgoing connection, ZoneAlarm can be set
to prompt you for permission.

Dan Maddox
Pactiv Corp

At 10:15 AM 8/14/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Dial-ups don't generally need the protection but the best I've found that

is

>free is Zone Alarm. It is great
>
>Jim Carnes
>Information Systems
>Kenlee Precision Corporation
>1700 Morrell Park Ave
>Baltimore, MD 21230
>410-525-3800 x132
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:09 AM
>To: Vantage (E-mail)
>Subject: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers
>
>With the recent news about the new virus attacks several of my users are
>asking me about protecting their home computers. I encourage them to have
>up to date virus protection. The subject of firewalls came up. Is this
>really necessary for a casual user on a dial up connection? If so, how
>about a recommendation of something that is free (or cheap) and/or easy to
>use since I will be expected to also show them how to use it.
>
>I am not up on software firewalls since we use a hardware solution for our
>main and remote locations.
>
>Mitchell Kirby
>Riten Industries, Inc.
>
>740-333-8719 Direct
>800-338-0027 Sales
>800-338-0717 FAX
>
>
>
>
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system · August 14, 2003, 3:30pm

I believe it is looking for port 135.

After reading about the virus on Trend Micro's site it looks easy to get rid
of.

I use Linux at home. No issues.

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone: 401-596-0162 x110
Fax: 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron.hoyt@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

Correct me if I am wrong, but I have Zonalarm and have been using it at home
for a long time... The things that are missing from the basic are things
like virus protection and reporting (I have Norton for virus, and don't have
the time to look over the reporting log anyway).
Also, I have stuck the free download on a CD with the CA version of the
removal of the SAN thing for my home users for this reason... My
understanding of the spread of this SAN thing is it looks for an open port
139 and slips in. Zone Alarm runs ports in full stealth mode so the
infecting machine will not even know you are there. If this is true, my
reasoning is to remove the virus, and then install ZoneAlarm all while
offline, and then connect to the internet once protected (yea, download the
update from MS when you can get it).
It worked for at least one of my users, but can anyone see a flaw?

Aaron Hoyt
Design Standards

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Maddox [mailto:dmaddox@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers

Mitchell,

I second this. You open the ports YOU want to open. If something
"spy-ish" tries to establish an outgoing connection, ZoneAlarm can be set
to prompt you for permission.

Dan Maddox
Pactiv Corp

At 10:15 AM 8/14/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Dial-ups don't generally need the protection but the best I've found that

is

>free is Zone Alarm. It is great
>
>Jim Carnes
>Information Systems
>Kenlee Precision Corporation
>1700 Morrell Park Ave
>Baltimore, MD 21230
>410-525-3800 x132
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:09 AM
>To: Vantage (E-mail)
>Subject: [Vantage] OT: Home Computers
>
>With the recent news about the new virus attacks several of my users are
>asking me about protecting their home computers. I encourage them to have
>up to date virus protection. The subject of firewalls came up. Is this
>really necessary for a casual user on a dial up connection? If so, how
>about a recommendation of something that is free (or cheap) and/or easy to
>use since I will be expected to also show them how to use it.
>
>I am not up on software firewalls since we use a hardware solution for our
>main and remote locations.
>
>Mitchell Kirby
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