OT: Microsoft 'Blue Thread' Licensing [SMC WIRE FABRICATORS]

With open licensing you get "downgrade" rights. So if you get open licencse
for XP
you can install office 2000. (If you want 2000 Pro you need to get XP pro
ect) You can then move those licences up to XP at any time without paying to
upgrade.

-----Original Message-----
From: erikrs301 [mailto:esmalley@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT: Microsoft 'Blue Thread' Licensing [SMC WIRE
FABRICATORS]


Thanks for the info, I kinda though the deal sounded a little fuzzy
too, so I contacted MS about it. After 30 minutes of running around
in circles with their teleprompt system, I spoke to someone with a
pulse.

I talk to the MS Piracy guys and they said it sounds like this outfit
is selling the ELUA's for Office2K which is not allowed by MS.
The 'Blue Thread' there were refering to turns out to be the MS
holographic image on the ELUA book/paper you get with a retail
purchase. It is not Open licensing and to be fully legal with the
ELUA's, you need a disk and key for each install. Kinda though $179
was a little too good to be true.

So where's the best pricing on Office Open Licensing??? Anyone know
where I can get Office 2K rather then XP?

Erik

--- In vantage@y..., "erikrs301" <esmalley@m...> wrote:
> I received a fax from an outfit called Software Express. They are
> offering Office 2K Pro licenses for $179/ea. I called and the guy
> said they were "Blue Thread" licenses. Basically if I already have
> the media and a key, which I do, these could be added.
>
> I'm adding a few workstations and this would really help cut some
> licensing costs to pick these up instead of getting new XP
licenses.
> Has anyone else ever done this? Does anyone know what this "Blue
> Thread" licensing is all about?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Erik



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I received a fax from an outfit called Software Express. They are
offering Office 2K Pro licenses for $179/ea. I called and the guy
said they were "Blue Thread" licenses. Basically if I already have
the media and a key, which I do, these could be added.

I'm adding a few workstations and this would really help cut some
licensing costs to pick these up instead of getting new XP licenses.
Has anyone else ever done this? Does anyone know what this "Blue
Thread" licensing is all about?

Thanks!

Erik
Sounds to me like grey market or counterfeit.

Just to be sure, ask them for the part number. If you can get it from them,
you can get it from any MS reseller.

> -----Original Message-----
> I received a fax from an outfit called Software Express. They are
> offering Office 2K Pro licenses for $179/ea. I called and the guy
> said they were "Blue Thread" licenses. Basically if I already have
> the media and a key, which I do, these could be added.
>
> I'm adding a few workstations and this would really help cut some
> licensing costs to pick these up instead of getting new XP licenses.
> Has anyone else ever done this? Does anyone know what this "Blue
> Thread" licensing is all about?
Sounds like a scam ... I'd call MS sales and ask them to verify the vendor
before I'd buy.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: erikrs301 [mailto:esmalley@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft 'Blue Thread' Licensing


I received a fax from an outfit called Software Express. They are
offering Office 2K Pro licenses for $179/ea. I called and the guy
said they were "Blue Thread" licenses. Basically if I already have
the media and a key, which I do, these could be added.

I'm adding a few workstations and this would really help cut some
licensing costs to pick these up instead of getting new XP licenses.
Has anyone else ever done this? Does anyone know what this "Blue
Thread" licensing is all about?

Thanks!

Erik



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It could be a Microsoft Open License (MOLP) deal. Where you purchase the
licenses only. I received an advertisement like that from Office Depot or
Insight, I am not sure now which one, but it was a reputable outfit. Of
course to be cautious is strongly advised.

Mike Tonoyan / All American Products Co.
miket@...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Anderson" <tanderson@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft 'Blue Thread' Licensing


> Sounds like a scam ... I'd call MS sales and ask them to verify the vendor
> before I'd buy.
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: erikrs301 [mailto:esmalley@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:09 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft 'Blue Thread' Licensing
>
>
> I received a fax from an outfit called Software Express. They are
> offering Office 2K Pro licenses for $179/ea. I called and the guy
> said they were "Blue Thread" licenses. Basically if I already have
> the media and a key, which I do, these could be added.
>
> I'm adding a few workstations and this would really help cut some
> licensing costs to pick these up instead of getting new XP licenses.
> Has anyone else ever done this? Does anyone know what this "Blue
> Thread" licensing is all about?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Erik
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Thanks for the info, I kinda though the deal sounded a little fuzzy
too, so I contacted MS about it. After 30 minutes of running around
in circles with their teleprompt system, I spoke to someone with a
pulse.

I talk to the MS Piracy guys and they said it sounds like this outfit
is selling the ELUA's for Office2K which is not allowed by MS.
The 'Blue Thread' there were refering to turns out to be the MS
holographic image on the ELUA book/paper you get with a retail
purchase. It is not Open licensing and to be fully legal with the
ELUA's, you need a disk and key for each install. Kinda though $179
was a little too good to be true.

So where's the best pricing on Office Open Licensing??? Anyone know
where I can get Office 2K rather then XP?

Erik

--- In vantage@y..., "erikrs301" <esmalley@m...> wrote:
> I received a fax from an outfit called Software Express. They are
> offering Office 2K Pro licenses for $179/ea. I called and the guy
> said they were "Blue Thread" licenses. Basically if I already have
> the media and a key, which I do, these could be added.
>
> I'm adding a few workstations and this would really help cut some
> licensing costs to pick these up instead of getting new XP
licenses.
> Has anyone else ever done this? Does anyone know what this "Blue
> Thread" licensing is all about?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Erik
At 01:17 PM 5/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>So where's the best pricing on Office Open Licensing??? Anyone know
>where I can get Office 2K rather then XP?

These guys: www.5oclock.com (see: shop online / software / applications)
sell OEM versions of Windows and Office, including the older
versions. They are supposed to only be sold with a new system, but they
aren't real picky about that requirement. ("Buying a memory stick? OK, we
can ship 10 copies of Win2K.")

These are the OEM versions that are supposed to be transferable between
machines, not the one locked to the original box like Dell, et al, are
pushing. This outfit is big enough (over $10M in annual sales) that I am
not too concerned about counterfeit packages, but that's your call.

From what I've heard of the new MS licensing, the newest packages allow
you to legally backdate versions. So if you're still standardized on
Office 2000, and you buy a box with OEM Office XP, you're legal to use
media you acquired else where to replace XP with 2000.

-WC


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I bought my office xp from Dell, with that license you can still install
office 2k before moving on to office xp when needed. It's cheaper if your
are just upgrading from an earlier version of office.

Office XP Pro $396.00
Office XP Std $330.00

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: erikrs301 [mailto:esmalley@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT: Microsoft 'Blue Thread' Licensing


Thanks for the info, I kinda though the deal sounded a little fuzzy
too, so I contacted MS about it. After 30 minutes of running around
in circles with their teleprompt system, I spoke to someone with a
pulse.

I talk to the MS Piracy guys and they said it sounds like this outfit
is selling the ELUA's for Office2K which is not allowed by MS.
The 'Blue Thread' there were refering to turns out to be the MS
holographic image on the ELUA book/paper you get with a retail
purchase. It is not Open licensing and to be fully legal with the
ELUA's, you need a disk and key for each install. Kinda though $179
was a little too good to be true.

So where's the best pricing on Office Open Licensing??? Anyone know
where I can get Office 2K rather then XP?

Erik

--- In vantage@y..., "erikrs301" <esmalley@m...> wrote:
> I received a fax from an outfit called Software Express. They are
> offering Office 2K Pro licenses for $179/ea. I called and the guy
> said they were "Blue Thread" licenses. Basically if I already have
> the media and a key, which I do, these could be added.
>
> I'm adding a few workstations and this would really help cut some
> licensing costs to pick these up instead of getting new XP
licenses.
> Has anyone else ever done this? Does anyone know what this "Blue
> Thread" licensing is all about?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Erik



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