[OT] Pretending a PC has less memory

Thanks. The original intent was to run this app on the Citrix server that is setup for 5 remote users. So that server must run with the full 2GB in order to support 5 users. I was thinking of just each user's (up to five of them) running of Access-95 being limited so that it would run on that server. Looks like what we are going to do is add a second Citrix "server" (really a desktop PC) running with only 1GB as the location where Access-95 is run from. The consultants tell me this is workable and cheaper than trying to convert to Access-2000. Especially when as soon as we get to Vantage 8.03 (or whatever) in 2009 we will drop that system and use highly customized Vantage quoting.

-Todd C.


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of jameswi2000
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Pretending a PC has less memory



My first post errored out, so here goes again...

Not sure if I fully understand the requirements, but if the
application is only used occassionally, a simple /maxmem=512 added to
your boot.ini will reduce the amount of memory your application
sees. It is simple and free.

Your boot.ini will look something like this when complete:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Access Configuration
[512Kb Memory ONLY]" /fastdetect /maxmem=512

The last line was copied from the one above it, so that the PC could
also be booted normally.

Cheers!







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I have a situation where we MUST run an old Access-95 application. But our newer PCs have 2GB of RAM. Access-95 will not run when there is more than 1GB of RAM. Even right at 1GB it is quirky. Over 1GB and it reports "Out of Memory" and won't start. There was a patch for Access-97 to address this but not for Access-95 and we can not convert the application to a newer version without assistance from an Access expert (big $$$). The crisis came when our new remote access server has 2GB of RAM and this applicaiton was to be the primary one used remotely.

While searching for the chance there is a non-Microsoft patch for Access-95 the thought occured that perhaps if there is a way to "fool" Access into thinking there is less memory it could still work. Sort of a virtual machine scenario that I could run on the Citrix server just for Access-95 that would pretent to have less memory. Does anyone know if such a thing exists or am I barking up the wrong tree? I already checked the XP compatiblity settings with no luck there. It would be nice to be able to run Access-95 in its own little memory space.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.



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I had a similar situation a number of years ago and used VMWare Virtual
Machine (multi-boot) and allocated < 1GB to memory.


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From: vantage@... [mailto:vantage@...] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:19 PM
To: Vantage@...
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Pretending a PC has less memory



I have a situation where we MUST run an old Access-95 application. But
our newer PCs have 2GB of RAM. Access-95 will not run when there is more
than 1GB of RAM. Even right at 1GB it is quirky. Over 1GB and it reports
"Out of Memory" and won't start. There was a patch for Access-97 to
address this but not for Access-95 and we can not convert the
application to a newer version without assistance from an Access expert
(big $$$). The crisis came when our new remote access server has 2GB of
RAM and this applicaiton was to be the primary one used remotely.

While searching for the chance there is a non-Microsoft patch for
Access-95 the thought occured that perhaps if there is a way to "fool"
Access into thinking there is less memory it could still work. Sort of a
virtual machine scenario that I could run on the Citrix server just for
Access-95 that would pretent to have less memory. Does anyone know if
such a thing exists or am I barking up the wrong tree? I already checked
the XP compatiblity settings with no luck there. It would be nice to be
able to run Access-95 in its own little memory space.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
Todd

VMware still has a free version
http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html

You can create a virtual Windows machine and control the amount of RAM
you need.

Regards
Rich

Todd Caughey wrote:
>
> I have a situation where we MUST run an old Access-95 application. But
> our newer PCs have 2GB of RAM. Access-95 will not run when there is
> more than 1GB of RAM. Even right at 1GB it is quirky. Over 1GB and it
> reports "Out of Memory" and won't start. There was a patch for
> Access-97 to address this but not for Access-95 and we can not convert
> the application to a newer version without assistance from an Access
> expert (big $$$). The crisis came when our new remote access server
> has 2GB of RAM and this applicaiton was to be the primary one used
> remotely.
>
> While searching for the chance there is a non-Microsoft patch for
> Access-95 the thought occured that perhaps if there is a way to "fool"
> Access into thinking there is less memory it could still work. Sort of
> a virtual machine scenario that I could run on the Citrix server just
> for Access-95 that would pretent to have less memory. Does anyone know
> if such a thing exists or am I barking up the wrong tree? I already
> checked the XP compatiblity settings with no luck there. It would be
> nice to be able to run Access-95 in its own little memory space.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd Caughey
> Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
>
>
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>
>
>
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Rich,

What's the difference between the free and the purchased products?

Does the free version time out after x # of days?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson







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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rich Shafer
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [OT] Pretending a PC has less memory



Todd

VMware still has a free version
http://www.vmware <http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html>
com/products/free_virtualization.html

You can create a virtual Windows machine and control the amount of RAM
you need.

Regards
Rich

Todd Caughey wrote:
>
> I have a situation where we MUST run an old Access-95 application. But
> our newer PCs have 2GB of RAM. Access-95 will not run when there is
> more than 1GB of RAM. Even right at 1GB it is quirky. Over 1GB and it
> reports "Out of Memory" and won't start. There was a patch for
> Access-97 to address this but not for Access-95 and we can not convert
> the application to a newer version without assistance from an Access
> expert (big $$$). The crisis came when our new remote access server
> has 2GB of RAM and this applicaiton was to be the primary one used
> remotely.
>
> While searching for the chance there is a non-Microsoft patch for
> Access-95 the thought occured that perhaps if there is a way to "fool"
> Access into thinking there is less memory it could still work. Sort of
> a virtual machine scenario that I could run on the Citrix server just
> for Access-95 that would pretent to have less memory. Does anyone know
> if such a thing exists or am I barking up the wrong tree? I already
> checked the XP compatiblity settings with no luck there. It would be
> nice to be able to run Access-95 in its own little memory space.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd Caughey
> Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> __________ NOD32 2010 (20070126) Information __________
>
> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
> http://www.eset <http://www.eset.com> com

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Wow.... was this the free version? From the description it looks very promising. I would like to run it on our Citrix server where the remote access coming from (like the rest of the shared apps). Might have another solution though. Consultants are new telling me I can add an old desktop as a 2nd Citrix server and run it from there.

But thanks for the suggestion.
-Todd C.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Lee Ingalls
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:03 PM
To: vantage@...
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Pretending a PC has less memory



I had a similar situation a number of years ago and used VMWare Virtual
Machine (multi-boot) and allocated < 1GB to memory.

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From: vantage@Yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40Yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto: vantage@Yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40Yahoogroups.com> .com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:19 PM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups <mailto:Vantage%40Yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Pretending a PC has less memory

I have a situation where we MUST run an old Access-95 application. But
our newer PCs have 2GB of RAM. Access-95 will not run when there is more
than 1GB of RAM. Even right at 1GB it is quirky. Over 1GB and it reports
"Out of Memory" and won't start. There was a patch for Access-97 to
address this but not for Access-95 and we can not convert the
application to a newer version without assistance from an Access expert
(big $$$). The crisis came when our new remote access server has 2GB of
RAM and this applicaiton was to be the primary one used remotely.

While searching for the chance there is a non-Microsoft patch for
Access-95 the thought occured that perhaps if there is a way to "fool"
Access into thinking there is less memory it could still work. Sort of a
virtual machine scenario that I could run on the Citrix server just for
Access-95 that would pretent to have less memory. Does anyone know if
such a thing exists or am I barking up the wrong tree? I already checked
the XP compatiblity settings with no luck there. It would be nice to be
able to run Access-95 in its own little memory space.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.







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Hi Todd

Yes the downloaded version does expire, but it also says you can
download another copy.
I don't think there is any difference between the versions.

My limited observations:
It is relatively easy to set up.
I originally used it as a quick fix to run Win NT on a new PC for a
short period of time.
(no hunting for drivers to make equipment work)
For me it was a good temporary measure.
I can see why many people are looking at virtual servers.

Rich


Todd Anderson wrote:
>
> Rich,
>
> What's the difference between the free and the purchased products?
>
> Does the free version time out after x # of days?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Anderson
>
> _____
>
>


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I wonder if you could install virtual server somewhere (its free),
install Win95 or something and that application. You can the set how
much memory the virtual machine has.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
While searching for the chance there is a non-Microsoft patch for
Access-95 the thought occured that perhaps if there is a way to "fool"
Access into thinking there is less memory it could still work. Sort of
a virtual machine scenario that I could run on the Citrix server just
for Access-95 that would pretent to have less memory. Does anyone know
if such a thing exists or am I barking up the wrong tree? I already
checked the XP compatiblity settings with no luck there. It would be
nice to be able to run Access-95 in its own little memory space.
My first post errored out, so here goes again...

Not sure if I fully understand the requirements, but if the
application is only used occassionally, a simple /maxmem=512 added to
your boot.ini will reduce the amount of memory your application
sees. It is simple and free.

Your boot.ini will look something like this when complete:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Access Configuration
[512Kb Memory ONLY]" /fastdetect /maxmem=512

The last line was copied from the one above it, so that the PC could
also be booted normally.

Cheers!