Ot - raid 10

You bet.

A Raid 10 is basically a mirrored stripe set. So you get the benefits of the striping - widening the data path width - with the redundancy of the mirror. So theoretically a 2 drive stripe set should be able to move twice as much data in the same amount of time - both inbound and outbound versus a single drive or RAID 5. Because it is a very geometrically simple configuration - there are no ECC calculations in a RAID 10 but the extra math does bog down a RAID 5 ( on writes ) Raid 5 on reads is pretty fast (when compared to a single drive).

My 2 bits,

Charles
----- Original Message -----
From: Manasa Reddy
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Would this help speed up Vantage in terms of read/write processes to the
server?

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corp
Aerostructures Division
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272


-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Dover [mailto:rdover@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:54 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Weaver Industries is using RAID 5 which is unsupported by progress
and therefore any data corruption is billable. That's 1 for 10
RAID 10 takes 4 drives to do what RAID 5 does. That's 1 against
Our next server will have RAID 10.
Russ Dover


To: "Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10

> Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?
>
> Any arguments for or against this?
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP Specialist
> Crestview Aerospace Corp
> Aerostructures Division
> Email: mreddy@...
> Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?

Any arguments for or against this?

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corp
Aerostructures Division
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Weaver Industries is using RAID 5 which is unsupported by progress
and therefore any data corruption is billable. That's 1 for 10
RAID 10 takes 4 drives to do what RAID 5 does. That's 1 against
Our next server will have RAID 10.
Russ Dover


To: "Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10

> Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?
>
> Any arguments for or against this?
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP Specialist
> Crestview Aerospace Corp
> Aerostructures Division
> Email: mreddy@...
> Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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We use RAID 10 for everything. Four RAIDS, about 1TB total. More expensive but safest and fastest. RAID10 is suggested for Databases whenever possible.
Thanks
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: Manasa Reddy [mailto:mreddy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:15 AM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?

Any arguments for or against this?

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Charles
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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?

Any arguments for or against this?

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years ago vantage only suppot or reccomended 0 or 5.

I would suggesting looking up the specs or calling them, to make sure
you comply with thier requirements

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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:15 PM
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Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


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Would this help speed up Vantage in terms of read/write processes to the
server?

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corp
Aerostructures Division
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272


-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Dover [mailto:rdover@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:54 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Weaver Industries is using RAID 5 which is unsupported by progress
and therefore any data corruption is billable. That's 1 for 10
RAID 10 takes 4 drives to do what RAID 5 does. That's 1 against
Our next server will have RAID 10.
Russ Dover


To: "Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10

> Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?
>
> Any arguments for or against this?
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP Specialist
> Crestview Aerospace Corp
> Aerostructures Division
> Email: mreddy@...
> Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Epicor has a document that outlines the different raid levels with some pros and cons. Our current setup here is four different RAID sets for our Vantage server and they are
1)OS RAID 1
2)AI RAID 1
3)BI RAID 1
4)Data Extents RAID 10
Each on its own channel of our 4 channel RAID card
I believe that the AI and BI are single threaded therefore will not get any bang out of striping the drives that is why only RAID 1. The data writes are multi threaded and therefore will benefit from striping. There are extensive threads concerning RAID and Progress on the Progress Email Group www.peg.com. If you search the DBA sub group, you can gather a lot of info on the subject in a hurry. I think someone just asked the question again this week.

Bart Sgroi

-----Original Message-----
From: Manasa Reddy [mailto:mreddy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Would this help speed up Vantage in terms of read/write processes to the
server?

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corp
Aerostructures Division
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272


-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Dover [mailto:rdover@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:54 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Weaver Industries is using RAID 5 which is unsupported by progress
and therefore any data corruption is billable. That's 1 for 10
RAID 10 takes 4 drives to do what RAID 5 does. That's 1 against
Our next server will have RAID 10.
Russ Dover


To: "Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com" <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
From: "Manasa Reddy" <mreddy@...>
Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10

> Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?
>
> Any arguments for or against this?
>
> M. Manasa Reddy
> ERP Specialist
> Crestview Aerospace Corp
> Aerostructures Division
> Email: mreddy@...
> Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272
>
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>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thanks everyone for your responses. I remember Epicor saying (a long time
ago) that RAID 0 was better than RAID 5. Couldn't remember it changing.

Thanks, again!

M. Manasa Reddy
ERP Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corp
Aerostructures Division
Email: mreddy@...
Phone: (850) 682-2746 x272


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike England [mailto:meeze@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:55 PM
To: mreddy@...
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


This question from YOU? 10 = mirrored and striped, the only way to go with
a Progress db. (Add some hot-swappable hard drives for good measure!) Using
5 will eventually cause enough degradation that the db will become
corrupted...eventually could be months or many years, depending on the hard
drive.

Mike

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From: Frank Zeigafuse [mailto:fzeigafuse@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:47 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


years ago vantage only suppot or reccomended 0 or 5.

I would suggesting looking up the specs or calling them, to make sure
you comply with thier requirements

-----Original Message-----
From: Manasa Reddy [mailto:mreddy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:15 PM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] OT - RAID 10


Anyone using RAID level 10 (hardware) for Vantage?

Any arguments for or against this?

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