OT: Terminal Services Printer Install, 6.1

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Jason Claggett wrote:
> I agree with Butch. That's the easiest way. Also, it's been my
> experience to AVOID PCL drivers at all cost..they crash the printer
> spooler which will leave users hunting for printers and your sanity will

I think you mean "PCL 6"? ALL the LaserJets talk PCL of some level. PCL 6 was a radically different language that I believe Microsoft developed with HP. I've had nothing but trouble with it. There is good reason HP still offers PCL 5 *and* PCL 6 drivers after all these years.

I noticed HP now has a "Universal printer driver" as well. Has anyone tried these? Looks like they're designed to address some of the problems of T.S. and mobile PCs as well as just plain huge networks. From hp.com:

"The Universal Print Driver (UPD) is a single driver with a standard interface that enables a user to find and print to HP PCL5 and PostScript emulation printers. It was designed to allow corporate users and the IT department to rely on one driver rather than many. The UPD is simple to use, manage, and configure for basic corporate and mobile printing.
"

-Wayne
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I have a user who is connecting remotely via TS. He wants to print locally.
I don't remember how to do this. I seem to recall you install the printer
driver on the TS. Is the printer on the TS installed locally or as a
network printer? Is there anything else I need to do?



Sincerely,



Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com



740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX





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Mitchell, I know there are varying opinions by users here as the best way to
do this.
My experience is this:
Server 2003 seems to make some of these printing problems less difficult.
However, my ts printing experiences have been far from perfectly easy using
the native ts solutions.
The problem for me has always been that the device name and description had
to match on the inf file that was installed on both the server and client,
and so running a server of one version and an older os (98) would cause
issue. Even with the newer RDP clients where you can select to bring server
and client resources together, such as disk access and printer usability, I
have had some issues.

I am a fan of 3rd party applications that install on the server, and then on
the client machine running the TS or RDP client.

So, if you decide to go thsi route, which I would recommend if you have an
older TS server (2000) or client, this is what recommend:
ThinPrint is one that has never let me down.
Also, there is a package called SCREWDRIVER that you can find on the web
that also provides such solutions.

Carey

>From: "Mitchell Kirby" <m.kirby@...>
>Reply-To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Vantage] OT: Terminal Services Printer Install, 6.1
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:19:38 -0500
>
>I have a user who is connecting remotely via TS. He wants to print
>locally.
>I don't remember how to do this. I seem to recall you install the printer
>driver on the TS. Is the printer on the TS installed locally or as a
>network printer? Is there anything else I need to do?
>
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>
>Mitchell Kirby
>
>Riten Industries, Inc.
>
> <http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com
>
>
>
>740-333-8719 Direct
>
>800-338-0027 Sales
>
>800-338-0717 FAX
>
>
>
>
>
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I just had to setup a temporary office space for about 10 users who
access our network via Windows 2003 TS. All use Windows XP with about
half using laptops and half using desktops. Here is what I learned
about printing:



1) Install the printer on TS first. You can delete it but this
will ensure the drivers are loaded.

2) TS will only use the client's local printer.

3) If you want to use a network printer on the client, use the
"Net Use" command to capture LPT1, 2 or 3

4) Capture loses the printer connection for laptops when they use
their laptop elsewhere so I created a batch file to redo the "Net Use"
command

5) For the network printer on the client, you can't use a cheap
print server like the Netgear PS101 (put the printer on one of the
computers, shared it and no problems)

6) Review the TS event log to see if the users are trying to use
other printers that are not installed on the server (laptop users)

7) TS will only install the printer for the user during the
session initiation (they disconnect instead of logoff so the new drivers
don't get loaded)

8) On TS you can override the clients config so you force them to
use the local printer should they change the remote desktop settings



This has worked well for me. The only complaint I have now is "we're
out of toner"...



Butch

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mitchell Kirby
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Terminal Services Printer Install, 6.1



I have a user who is connecting remotely via TS. He wants to print
locally.
I don't remember how to do this. I seem to recall you install the
printer
driver on the TS. Is the printer on the TS installed locally or as a
network printer? Is there anything else I need to do?

Sincerely,

Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/ <http://www.riten.com/> > www.riten.com

740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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I agree with Butch. That's the easiest way. Also, it's been my
experience to AVOID PCL drivers at all cost..they crash the printer
spooler which will leave users hunting for printers and your sanity will
be quickly lost. If you are using HP printers install the generic Laser
Jet 4 driver on the TS as most of the reports and stuff w/in Vantage
will work just fine. Unless you need the functionality of the original
print driver, just install the LJ4 and you'll be just fine - this is
just for HP printers. I'm haven't test on all the printers out there,
but I know this works for HP.



If you are using the "net use" command be sure to add the /p
(persistent) at the end so that when you reboot the workstation it will
remap the printer to the LPT port.



Hope this helps.



Jason Claggett

2W Technologies, LLC

jason@...





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I think I am going to test ThinPrint. It is an expensive solution. It does
solve the problem of dealing with different printers since my remote users
all have different setups. My original thought was to set up printing for
just one user. Given the cost of the software I'll set it up for all of
them. I tried installing printer drivers locally but the printer is a USB
printer and the driver won't install without the printer physically
connected to either the server or the network. I don't have this printer
here. At that point I decided to go with ThinPrint.



Thanks for the help and suggestions. Can you install a USB printer driver
without the printer?



Sincerely,



Mitchell Kirby

Riten Industries, Inc.

<http://www.riten.com/> www.riten.com



740-333-8719 Direct

800-338-0027 Sales

800-338-0717 FAX

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jason Claggett
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:32 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT: Terminal Services Printer Install, 6.1



I agree with Butch. That's the easiest way. Also, it's been my
experience to AVOID PCL drivers at all cost..they crash the printer
spooler which will leave users hunting for printers and your sanity will
be quickly lost. If you are using HP printers install the generic Laser
Jet 4 driver on the TS as most of the reports and stuff w/in Vantage
will work just fine. Unless you need the functionality of the original
print driver, just install the LJ4 and you'll be just fine - this is
just for HP printers. I'm haven't test on all the printers out there,
but I know this works for HP.

If you are using the "net use" command be sure to add the /p
(persistent) at the end so that when you reboot the workstation it will
remap the printer to the LPT port.

Hope this helps.

Jason Claggett

2W Technologies, LLC

jason@2wtech. <mailto:jason%402wtech.com> com

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